From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: "jonsmirl@gmail.com" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] DT bindings as ABI [was: Do we have people interested in device tree janitoring / cleanup?]
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:30:45 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F7EA35.6070501@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKON4OyWuF+qm2MAhbXnGg=ozzw37kpSWciLxyUy+QQzxoWdxQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 07/29/2013 08:15 PM, jonsmirl@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:44 PM, David Gibson
> <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
...
>> I also think we should consider the option of having a simple and
>> straightforward schema language which handles, say, 80% of cases with
>> a fall back to C for the 20% of curly cases. That might actually be
>> simpler to work with in practice than a schema language which can
>> express absolutely anything, at the cost of being awkward for simple
>> cases or difficult to get your head around.
>
> Would C++ work? You can use operating overloading and templates to
> change the syntax into something that doesn't even resemble C any
> more.
>From my perspective, that's precisely why C++ should /not/ be used.
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From: swarren@wwwdotorg.org (Stephen Warren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] DT bindings as ABI [was: Do we have people interested in device tree janitoring / cleanup?]
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:30:45 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F7EA35.6070501@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKON4OyWuF+qm2MAhbXnGg=ozzw37kpSWciLxyUy+QQzxoWdxQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 07/29/2013 08:15 PM, jonsmirl at gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:44 PM, David Gibson
> <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
...
>> I also think we should consider the option of having a simple and
>> straightforward schema language which handles, say, 80% of cases with
>> a fall back to C for the 20% of curly cases. That might actually be
>> simpler to work with in practice than a schema language which can
>> express absolutely anything, at the cost of being awkward for simple
>> cases or difficult to get your head around.
>
> Would C++ work? You can use operating overloading and templates to
> change the syntax into something that doesn't even resemble C any
> more.
>From my perspective, that's precisely why C++ should /not/ be used.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-30 16:30 UTC|newest]
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2013-07-25 16:09 DT bindings as ABI [was: Do we have people interested in device tree janitoring / cleanup?] Olof Johansson
2013-07-25 16:09 ` Olof Johansson
2013-07-25 17:57 ` Mark Rutland
2013-07-25 17:57 ` Mark Rutland
2013-07-25 18:05 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-25 18:05 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-25 18:25 ` Olof Johansson
2013-07-25 18:25 ` Olof Johansson
2013-07-25 18:50 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-25 18:50 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-25 19:30 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-07-25 19:30 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-25 18:29 ` Mark Rutland
2013-07-25 18:29 ` Mark Rutland
2013-07-25 18:48 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-25 18:48 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-25 18:53 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-25 18:53 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-25 21:41 ` Domenico Andreoli
2013-07-25 21:41 ` Domenico Andreoli
2013-07-26 4:43 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-26 4:43 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-25 21:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-25 21:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-26 4:54 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-26 4:54 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-26 13:42 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-26 13:42 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-26 17:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-26 17:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-27 8:48 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 8:48 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 10:40 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-07-27 10:40 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-27 17:37 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 17:37 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 17:57 ` David Lang
2013-07-27 17:57 ` David Lang
2013-07-27 18:17 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 18:17 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-28 11:27 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-28 11:27 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-29 17:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 17:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 18:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-29 18:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-29 18:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 18:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-27 8:53 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 8:53 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 10:20 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-27 10:20 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-27 11:36 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-07-27 11:36 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-27 18:07 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 18:07 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-28 12:10 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-28 12:10 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-26 8:01 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-26 8:01 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-26 9:42 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 9:42 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 13:09 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-26 13:09 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-26 13:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-26 13:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-27 15:28 ` David Gibson
2013-07-27 15:28 ` David Gibson
2013-07-26 13:27 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 13:27 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 13:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-26 13:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-26 13:45 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 13:45 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 13:50 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 13:50 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 13:59 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 13:59 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 13:41 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 13:41 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 13:47 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 13:47 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 14:14 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-26 14:14 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-26 14:16 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 14:16 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 14:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-26 14:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-26 14:39 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-26 14:39 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-26 14:40 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-26 14:40 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-29 15:32 ` Matt Porter
2013-07-29 15:32 ` Matt Porter
2013-07-27 15:19 ` David Gibson
2013-07-27 15:19 ` David Gibson
2013-07-27 19:37 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-27 19:37 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-27 9:16 ` Ming Lei
2013-07-27 9:16 ` Ming Lei
2013-07-26 14:10 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-26 14:10 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-26 15:49 ` Olof Johansson
2013-07-26 15:49 ` Olof Johansson
2013-07-26 16:36 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-26 16:36 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-27 4:57 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 4:57 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 5:04 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 5:04 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 9:51 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-27 9:51 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-27 10:24 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-27 10:24 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-27 10:34 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-27 10:34 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-27 11:09 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-27 11:09 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-27 10:36 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-27 10:36 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-27 10:59 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-27 10:59 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-27 19:45 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-27 19:45 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-27 20:01 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-27 20:01 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-27 20:03 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-27 20:03 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-27 20:25 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-27 20:25 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-28 3:28 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-28 3:28 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-28 5:11 ` James Bottomley
2013-07-28 5:11 ` James Bottomley
2013-07-28 5:13 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-28 5:13 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-30 1:44 ` David Gibson
2013-07-30 1:44 ` David Gibson
2013-07-30 2:15 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-30 2:15 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 3:29 ` David Gibson
2013-07-30 3:29 ` David Gibson
2013-07-30 4:35 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-30 4:35 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-30 8:39 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-07-30 8:39 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-07-30 16:30 ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-07-30 16:30 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 17:27 ` John W. Linville
2013-07-30 17:27 ` John W. Linville
2013-07-30 16:40 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 16:40 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-29 9:19 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-29 9:19 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-29 10:16 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-29 10:16 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-07-27 18:31 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 18:31 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-27 18:51 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-27 18:51 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-27 19:22 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-27 19:22 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-28 8:56 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-28 8:56 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-28 9:12 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-28 9:12 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-28 13:19 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-28 13:19 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-28 13:39 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-28 13:39 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-28 14:09 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-28 14:09 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-28 15:35 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-28 15:35 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-28 15:50 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-28 15:50 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-28 17:41 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-28 17:41 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-28 21:46 ` David Gibson
2013-07-28 21:46 ` David Gibson
2013-07-28 15:30 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-28 15:30 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-29 7:31 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-07-29 7:31 ` Maxime Ripard
2013-07-29 18:38 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-29 18:38 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-29 18:51 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-29 18:51 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-29 18:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 18:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 18:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-29 18:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-29 22:20 ` David Gibson
2013-07-29 22:20 ` David Gibson
2013-07-29 23:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 23:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 23:49 ` David Gibson
2013-07-29 23:49 ` David Gibson
2013-07-31 10:37 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-07-31 10:37 ` Maxime Bizon
2013-07-31 10:59 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-31 10:59 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-31 15:07 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-31 15:07 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-31 15:23 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-31 15:23 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-31 19:12 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-31 19:12 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-31 19:29 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-31 19:29 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-31 20:00 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-31 20:00 ` Richard Cochran
2013-07-31 20:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-31 20:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-31 20:37 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-31 20:37 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-31 20:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-31 20:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-31 21:26 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-31 21:26 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-08-01 9:57 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-08-01 9:57 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-08-01 10:09 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-01 10:09 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-01 10:18 ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-01 10:18 ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-01 13:34 ` jonsmirl
2013-08-01 13:34 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-08-01 13:43 ` jonsmirl
2013-08-01 13:43 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-08-01 13:48 ` Rob Herring
2013-08-01 13:48 ` Rob Herring
2013-08-02 3:50 ` David Gibson
2013-08-02 3:50 ` David Gibson
2013-08-13 23:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 23:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 1:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-14 1:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-14 14:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 14:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-02 8:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-02 8:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-29 15:45 ` Matt Porter
2013-07-29 15:45 ` Matt Porter
2013-07-31 12:58 ` Ian Campbell
2013-07-31 12:58 ` Ian Campbell
2013-07-25 17:59 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-25 17:59 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-25 19:11 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-25 19:11 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-25 19:31 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-25 19:31 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-25 20:04 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-07-25 20:04 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-25 20:08 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-25 20:08 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-25 20:16 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-25 20:16 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-25 20:32 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-25 20:32 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-25 21:53 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Ben Hutchings
2013-07-25 21:53 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-26 0:36 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-26 0:36 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-26 12:14 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 12:14 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 0:34 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-26 0:34 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-26 22:11 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-26 22:11 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-25 23:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-25 23:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-07-26 0:27 ` jonsmirl
2013-07-26 0:27 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-26 11:38 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 11:38 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-26 14:08 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 14:08 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-26 13:57 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-26 13:57 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-26 10:55 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-26 10:55 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-28 4:39 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-28 4:39 ` Grant Likely
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