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From: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, jhs@mojatatu.com,
	john.r.fastabend@intel.com, shemminger@vyatta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] bridge: Add addresses from static fdbs to bridge address list
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:35:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <530E25CC.6010705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140226085707.55bdab94@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net>

On 02/26/2014 11:57 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:18:21 -0500
> Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> When a static fdb entry is created, add the mac address to the bridge
>> address list.  This list is used to program the proper port's
>> address list.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com>
> 
> I don't like this level of bookkeeping it starts to mix
> layers between the bridge network interface as entity for talking to the
> local host, and forwarding table entries.

Actually this is one of the reasons this isn't done through the
br->dev->uc.  Forwarding table entries are still per-port.

> 
> Many times static entries are used as alternative to flooding in
> environments which don't trust STP.

Ok, and how would this be problematic?  If one wants to turn off
promisc in this environment, then receive filters needs to be properly
programmed.

> 
> Plus, it looks like another major source of bugs.
> 

Any new code is a potential source of issues.  Are you saying
No to any new code in bridge?

-vlad

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From: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, jhs@mojatatu.com,
	john.r.fastabend@intel.com, shemminger@vyatta.com
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH 3/7] bridge: Add addresses from static fdbs to bridge address list
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:35:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <530E25CC.6010705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140226085707.55bdab94@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net>

On 02/26/2014 11:57 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:18:21 -0500
> Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> When a static fdb entry is created, add the mac address to the bridge
>> address list.  This list is used to program the proper port's
>> address list.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevic@redhat.com>
> 
> I don't like this level of bookkeeping it starts to mix
> layers between the bridge network interface as entity for talking to the
> local host, and forwarding table entries.

Actually this is one of the reasons this isn't done through the
br->dev->uc.  Forwarding table entries are still per-port.

> 
> Many times static entries are used as alternative to flooding in
> environments which don't trust STP.

Ok, and how would this be problematic?  If one wants to turn off
promisc in this environment, then receive filters needs to be properly
programmed.

> 
> Plus, it looks like another major source of bugs.
> 

Any new code is a potential source of issues.  Are you saying
No to any new code in bridge?

-vlad

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-26 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-26 15:18 [PATCH RFC 0/7] Non-promisc bidge ports support Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18 ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18 ` [PATCH 1/7] bridge: Turn flag change macro into a function Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18   ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:29     ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:36     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:36       ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18 ` [PATCH 2/7] bridge: Keep track of ports capable of flooding Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18   ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:41     ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:41     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:41       ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:53         ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-27 11:59   ` Toshiaki Makita
2014-02-27 11:59     ` [Bridge] " Toshiaki Makita
2014-02-27 12:54     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-27 12:54       ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18 ` [PATCH 3/7] bridge: Add addresses from static fdbs to bridge address list Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18   ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:46     ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:43     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:43       ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 16:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:23     ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 17:25     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 17:25       ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 17:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 17:33         ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:57   ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-02-26 16:57     ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2014-02-26 17:35     ` Vlad Yasevich [this message]
2014-02-26 17:35       ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-27  7:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-27  7:53         ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-27 13:08         ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-27 13:08           ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-27 13:38           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-27 13:38             ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:18 ` [PATCH 4/7] bridge: Automatically manage port promiscuous mode Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18   ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:51     ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:02     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 16:02       ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 16:58   ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-02-26 16:58     ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2014-02-26 17:32     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 17:32       ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:18 ` [PATCH 5/7] bridge: Correctly manage promiscuity when user requested it Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18   ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18 ` [PATCH 6/7] bridge: Manage promisc mode when vlans are configured on top of a bridge Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18   ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 16:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:00     ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:05     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 16:05       ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 16:25       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:25         ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-27 12:06   ` Toshiaki Makita
2014-02-27 12:06     ` [Bridge] " Toshiaki Makita
2014-02-27 13:17     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-27 13:17       ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-28 19:34       ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-28 19:34         ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-03-01 14:57         ` Toshiaki Makita
2014-03-01 14:57           ` [Bridge] " Toshiaki Makita
2014-03-03 12:12           ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-03-03 12:12             ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18 ` [PATCH 7/7] bridge: Support promisc management when all ports are non-flooding Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:18   ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-26 15:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 15:57     ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-27  3:46     ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-27  3:46       ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-27  7:29       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-27  7:29         ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:01     ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:34 ` [PATCH RFC 0/7] Non-promisc bidge ports support Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 16:34   ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-26 23:59 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-26 23:59   ` [Bridge] " Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-27  3:37   ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-27  3:37     ` [Bridge] " Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-27  8:54     ` Amidu Sila
2014-02-27  7:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-27  7:20     ` [Bridge] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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