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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] dma-mapping: Generalise dma_32bit_limit flag
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 21:11:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5354ef69-c54e-170b-62d4-5110dc60aa8f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7872d914-8ea7-06e4-4a0c-489023e098d6-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>

On 2018-07-27 6:45 PM, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
> On 07/23/2018 05:16 PM, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> Whilst the notion of an upstream DMA restriction is most commonly seen
>> in PCI host bridges saddled with a 32-bit native interface, a more
>> general version of the same issue can exist on complex SoCs where a bus
>> or point-to-point interconnect link from a device's DMA master interface
>> to another component along the path to memory (often an IOMMU) may carry
>> fewer address bits than the interfaces at both ends nominally support.
>> In order to properly deal with this, the first step is to expand the
>> dma_32bit_limit flag into an arbitrary mask.
>>
>> To minimise the impact on existing code, we'll make sure to only
>> consider this new mask valid if set. That makes sense anyway, since a
>> mask of zero would represent DMA not being wired up at all, and that
>> would be better handled by not providing valid ops in the first place.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
> 
> I'd like to note about some possible issue related to this change.
> 
> There are some places in kernel where parent DMA configuration is copied 
> to the manually created child devices, like:
> mfd-core.c
> mfd_add_device()
>      pdev->dev.parent = parent;
>      pdev->dev.type = &mfd_dev_type;
>      pdev->dev.dma_mask = parent->dma_mask;
>      pdev->dev.dma_parms = parent->dma_parms;
>      pdev->dev.coherent_dma_mask = parent->coherent_dma_mask;
> 
> Adding or changing generic DMA device properties might affect on such
> subsystems/drivers. Have you considered such cases?

Yes, that's a lovely example of what I class as "bus code" creating a 
child device and initialising its DMA parameters appropriately. The 
subdevice goes on to get associated with an OF node or ACPI companion, 
so when the subdriver for that function binds it should go through its 
own dma_configure() process and pick up any further properties accordingly.

Code which just tries to copy the DMA configuration from an existing 
device to a new one has never worked properly, because there is often 
additional DMA configuration in archdata and other places it cannot 
possibly know about. Last time I looked there were still some specific 
hacks in the USB layer in order to interact correctly with the block 
layer bounce limit, but I think anything truly wrong has been more or 
less flushed out by now (the DMA ops changes for arm64 ACPI support 
caught a fair few IIRC).

Robin.
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From: robin.murphy@arm.com (Robin Murphy)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 2/7] dma-mapping: Generalise dma_32bit_limit flag
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 21:11:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5354ef69-c54e-170b-62d4-5110dc60aa8f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7872d914-8ea7-06e4-4a0c-489023e098d6@ti.com>

On 2018-07-27 6:45 PM, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
> On 07/23/2018 05:16 PM, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> Whilst the notion of an upstream DMA restriction is most commonly seen
>> in PCI host bridges saddled with a 32-bit native interface, a more
>> general version of the same issue can exist on complex SoCs where a bus
>> or point-to-point interconnect link from a device's DMA master interface
>> to another component along the path to memory (often an IOMMU) may carry
>> fewer address bits than the interfaces at both ends nominally support.
>> In order to properly deal with this, the first step is to expand the
>> dma_32bit_limit flag into an arbitrary mask.
>>
>> To minimise the impact on existing code, we'll make sure to only
>> consider this new mask valid if set. That makes sense anyway, since a
>> mask of zero would represent DMA not being wired up at all, and that
>> would be better handled by not providing valid ops in the first place.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
> 
> I'd like to note about some possible issue related to this change.
> 
> There are some places in kernel where parent DMA configuration is copied 
> to the manually created child devices, like:
> mfd-core.c
> mfd_add_device()
>  ????pdev->dev.parent = parent;
>  ????pdev->dev.type = &mfd_dev_type;
>  ????pdev->dev.dma_mask = parent->dma_mask;
>  ????pdev->dev.dma_parms = parent->dma_parms;
>  ????pdev->dev.coherent_dma_mask = parent->coherent_dma_mask;
> 
> Adding or changing generic DMA device properties might affect on such
> subsystems/drivers. Have you considered such cases?

Yes, that's a lovely example of what I class as "bus code" creating a 
child device and initialising its DMA parameters appropriately. The 
subdevice goes on to get associated with an OF node or ACPI companion, 
so when the subdriver for that function binds it should go through its 
own dma_configure() process and pick up any further properties accordingly.

Code which just tries to copy the DMA configuration from an existing 
device to a new one has never worked properly, because there is often 
additional DMA configuration in archdata and other places it cannot 
possibly know about. Last time I looked there were still some specific 
hacks in the USB layer in order to interact correctly with the block 
layer bounce limit, but I think anything truly wrong has been more or 
less flushed out by now (the DMA ops changes for arm64 ACPI support 
caught a fair few IIRC).

Robin.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-27 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-23 22:16 [PATCH v2 0/7] Stop losing firmware-set DMA masks Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16 ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] ACPI/IORT: Support address size limit for root complexes Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16   ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] dma-mapping: Generalise dma_32bit_limit flag Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16   ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <c1720f0181b66f711e4097d85149757b16a7b0a7.1532382222.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-25 11:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-25 11:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-27 17:45     ` Grygorii Strashko via iommu
2018-07-27 17:45       ` Grygorii Strashko
     [not found]       ` <7872d914-8ea7-06e4-4a0c-489023e098d6-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-27 20:11         ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2018-07-27 20:11           ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]           ` <5354ef69-c54e-170b-62d4-5110dc60aa8f-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-27 20:41             ` Grygorii Strashko via iommu
2018-07-27 20:41               ` Grygorii Strashko
2018-07-23 22:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] ACPI/IORT: Set bus DMA mask as appropriate Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16   ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <07cbf8f77fac552dca9b4c85a9d3bd8ed5a4cd29.1532382222.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-25 11:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-25 11:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-25 13:16     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-07-25 13:16       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-07-23 22:16 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] of/device: " Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16   ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <cc56f074b8da7e03a187b2363b1f2c2955d62c1c.1532382222.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-25 11:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-25 11:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-23 22:16 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] iommu/dma: Respect bus DMA limit for IOVAs Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16   ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <d370670edae9c9c537a5280c5e7c96bf3ec7ed8f.1532382222.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-26  8:58     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-26  8:58       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-23 22:16 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] ACPI/IORT: Don't set default coherent DMA mask Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16   ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <3525869e8e7530128bf9718ae8af7d7564b3c684.1532382222.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-25 15:27     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-07-25 15:27       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-07-25 15:43       ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-25 15:43         ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] OF: " Robin Murphy
2018-07-23 22:16   ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <66c08e4df2032fde82a2f97544f41fd3a2f24a94.1532382222.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-26 23:52     ` Grygorii Strashko via iommu
2018-07-26 23:52       ` Grygorii Strashko
2018-07-27  0:22       ` Grygorii Strashko
2018-07-27  0:22         ` Grygorii Strashko
     [not found]         ` <92d6b010-b5c0-fc59-0668-5b455e26c912-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-27 11:36           ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-27 11:36             ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-27 17:34             ` Grygorii Strashko
2018-07-27 17:34               ` Grygorii Strashko
     [not found]               ` <108a6254-1257-5daf-deaa-69bc4db2ec77-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-27 19:46                 ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-27 19:46                   ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]             ` <c7a9c7ae-1f4a-af9d-df78-1f48bb5c28a5-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-27 18:13               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-07-27 18:13                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                 ` <20180727181302.GC17271-l+eeeJia6m9URfEZ8mYm6t73F7V6hmMc@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-27 18:45                   ` Grygorii Strashko via iommu
2018-07-27 18:45                     ` Grygorii Strashko
     [not found]                     ` <affa2718-5f3a-7439-db25-ce171a99414a-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-27 20:42                       ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-27 20:42                         ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-27 19:29                   ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-27 19:29                     ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-26 23:45 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Stop losing firmware-set DMA masks Grygorii Strashko
2018-07-26 23:45   ` Grygorii Strashko
     [not found]   ` <c73bc8d2-b745-ff31-1949-7a59ab04ede6-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-27 10:55     ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-27 10:55       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]       ` <8b8ac841-5c4c-ae27-21d5-d7aaaf4c277c-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-27 17:22         ` Grygorii Strashko via iommu
2018-07-27 17:22           ` Grygorii Strashko
     [not found] ` <cover.1532382222.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-25 11:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-25 11:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180725113122.GD24736-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-25 12:11       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-07-25 12:11         ` Joerg Roedel
2018-07-25 12:12       ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-25 12:12         ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]         ` <5e036ade-db0b-f628-a4a0-6d014d1d76c8-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-25 12:17           ` Will Deacon
2018-07-25 12:17             ` Will Deacon
2018-07-25 13:58       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-25 13:58         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-07-26  9:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-26  9:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-29 12:32   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-29 12:32     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <CAK8P3a3HDJ6svNN_cwvegxu20yNv8+tvc0D1A6Ooeq8agawbFg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-31 11:24       ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-31 11:24         ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]         ` <1ccccc4b-7d4c-a3ee-23a2-f108916705e9-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-06 10:01           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-06 10:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <CAK8P3a3ZcOeHMR_qFnsBdXED+2X8_AEMKoS5MeAQhbapbGmm9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-06 12:13               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-06 12:13                 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                 ` <20180806121334.GA5340-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-06 12:13                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-08-06 12:13                     ` Arnd Bergmann

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