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From: Hongyang Yang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 RFC 01/14] docs: libxc migration stream specification
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 18:23:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A2BA0C.6090702@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53A2AF1F.4070902@citrix.com>

On 06/19/2014 05:36 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 19/06/14 10:13, Hongyang Yang wrote:
>> Hi Andrew, Ian,
>>
>> On 06/18/2014 02:04 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>> On 17/06/14 17:40, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 19:14 +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>>> +The following features are not yet fully specified and will be
>>>>> +included in a future draft.
>>>>> +
>>>>> +* Remus
>>>> What is the plan for Remus here?
>>>>
>>>> It has pretty large implications for the flow of a migration stream and
>>>> therefore on the code in the final two patches, I suspect it will
>>>> require high level changes to those functions, so I'm reluctant to
>>>> spend
>>>> a lot of time on them as they are.
>>>
>>> I don't believe too much change will be required to the final two
>>> patches, but it does depend on fixing the current qemu record layer
>>> violations.
>>>
>>> It will be much easier to do after a prototype to the libxl level fixes.
>>
>> I'm trying to porting Remus to migration v2...
>
> Ah fantastic! Here I was expecting to have eventually brave that code
> myself.
>
> How is it going?  How are you finding hacking on v2 compared to the
> legacy code? (I think you are the first person who isn't me trying to
> extend it)  Is there anything I can do while still developing v2 to make
> things easier?

It's just starting, but only on libxc side based on your patch series.
v2 code is more cleaner than legacy code, easy to understand, and yes,
make hacking easier. Maybe I will need your help when the hacking goes
on...

>
>
> I really need to get a prototype libxl framing document sorted, but in
> principle my plan (given only a minimum understanding of the algorithm)
> is this:
>
> ...
> * Write page data update
> * Write vcpu context etc
> * Write a REMUS_CHECKPOINT record (or appropriate name)
> * Call the checkpoint callback, passing ownership of the fd to libxl
> ** libxl writes a libxl qemu record into the stream
> * checkpoint callback returns to libxl, returning ownership of the fd
> * libxc chooses between sending an END record or looping
> ...
>
> The fd ownership is expected to work exactly the same on the receiving
> side, using the REMUS_CHECKPOINT record as an indicator.

It mostly looks plausible, but the save side and restore side needs to
be synchronised, otherwise, the following problem may exists:
   sending side is in libxl and send qemu records, receiving side still
   in libxc, after it is switched to libxl, part of record may lose.
maybe a handshake will solve the problem, weather it's in libxl or libxc,
but current migration frame dose not support send msgs from receiving side
to sending side, so it need modifications. We should support this feature.

>
> Does this look plausible or sensible, or have I missed something?
>
> ~Andrew
> .
>

-- 
Thanks,
Yang.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-19 10:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-11 18:14 [PATCH v5 0/14] Migration Stream v2 Andrew Cooper
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 01/14] docs: libxc migration stream specification Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12  9:45   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-12 15:26   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-17 15:20   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-17 17:42     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-17 16:40   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-17 18:04     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-19  9:13       ` Hongyang Yang
2014-06-19  9:36         ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-19 10:23           ` Hongyang Yang [this message]
2014-06-19 10:44             ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-22 14:36               ` Shriram Rajagopalan
2014-06-22 16:01                 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 02/14] scripts: Scripts for inspection/valdiation of legacy and new streams Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12  9:48   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 03/14] [HACK] tools/libxc: save/restore v2 framework Andrew Cooper
2014-06-17 16:00   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-17 16:17     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-17 16:47       ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 04/14] tools/libxc: C implementation of stream format Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12  9:52   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-12 15:31   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-17 15:55     ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 05/14] tools/libxc: noarch common code Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12  9:55   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-17 16:10   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-17 16:28     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-17 16:53       ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-17 18:26         ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-18  9:19           ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 06/14] tools/libxc: x86 " Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12  9:57   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-17 16:11     ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 07/14] tools/libxc: x86 PV " Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12  9:59   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 08/14] tools/libxc: x86 PV save code Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12 10:04   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 09/14] tools/libxc: x86 PV restore code Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12 10:08   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-12 15:49   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-12 17:01     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-17 16:22       ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 10/14] tools/libxc: x86 HVM common code Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12 10:11   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-17 16:22     ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 11/14] tools/libxc: x86 HVM save code Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12 10:12   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-12 15:55   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-12 17:07     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-17 16:25       ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 12/14] tools/libxc: x86 HVM restore code Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12 10:14   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 13/14] tools/libxc: noarch save code Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12 10:24   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-17 16:28     ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-17 16:38       ` David Vrabel
2014-06-17 16:54         ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-18  6:59   ` Hongyang Yang
2014-06-18  7:08     ` Hongyang Yang
2014-06-19  2:48   ` Wen Congyang
2014-06-19  9:19     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-22 14:02       ` Shriram Rajagopalan
2014-06-11 18:14 ` [PATCH v5 RFC 14/14] tools/libxc: noarch restore code Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12 10:27   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-12 16:05   ` David Vrabel
2014-06-12 17:16     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-19  6:16   ` Hongyang Yang
2014-06-19  9:00     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12  3:17 ` [PATCH v5 0/14] Migration Stream v2 Hongyang Yang
2014-06-12 13:27   ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12 13:49     ` Wei Liu
2014-06-12 14:18       ` Andrew Cooper
2014-06-12 14:27         ` Wei Liu
2014-06-12  9:38 ` David Vrabel
2014-06-17 15:57   ` Ian Campbell

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