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* Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3?
@ 2009-05-04 19:56 Keith Coleman
  2009-05-08  4:47 ` Dulloor
  2009-05-08 14:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Keith Coleman @ 2009-05-04 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel

Is there a known issue that prevents stub domains from working in 3.4.0-rc3?

I attempted to use a stub domain configuration files that worked in
xen 3.3.1 but they don't work due to the recent addition of
automatically generated -dm files. Moving some config lines from the
old -dm file to the -stub file allows the creation process to go a
little further but I get the following error:

# cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-win4.log
Error: Device 768 (vbd) could not be connected.
Device /dev/mapper/testvg-win4s is mounted in a guest domain,
and so cannot be mounted now.
Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/win4-dm".
Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/win4-dm".

The stub domain dies immediately.

Keith

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* Re: Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3?
  2009-05-04 19:56 Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3? Keith Coleman
@ 2009-05-08  4:47 ` Dulloor
  2009-05-08 14:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dulloor @ 2009-05-08  4:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith Coleman; +Cc: xen-devel, Stefano Stabellini


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It works for me.

Uncommented "disk" parameter in main config file ?

-dulloor

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Keith Coleman <list.keith@scaltro.com>wrote:

> Is there a known issue that prevents stub domains from working in
> 3.4.0-rc3?
>
> I attempted to use a stub domain configuration files that worked in
> xen 3.3.1 but they don't work due to the recent addition of
> automatically generated -dm files. Moving some config lines from the
> old -dm file to the -stub file allows the creation process to go a
> little further but I get the following error:
>
> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-win4.log
> Error: Device 768 (vbd) could not be connected.
> Device /dev/mapper/testvg-win4s is mounted in a guest domain,
> and so cannot be mounted now.
> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/win4-dm".
> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/win4-dm".
>
> The stub domain dies immediately.
>
> Keith
>
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> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
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* Re: Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3?
  2009-05-04 19:56 Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3? Keith Coleman
  2009-05-08  4:47 ` Dulloor
@ 2009-05-08 14:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
  2009-05-08 16:28   ` Keith Coleman
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Stabellini @ 2009-05-08 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith Coleman; +Cc: xen-devel

Keith Coleman wrote:

> Is there a known issue that prevents stub domains from working in 3.4.0-rc3?
> 
> I attempted to use a stub domain configuration files that worked in
> xen 3.3.1 but they don't work due to the recent addition of
> automatically generated -dm files. Moving some config lines from the
> old -dm file to the -stub file allows the creation process to go a
> little further but I get the following error:
> 
> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-win4.log
> Error: Device 768 (vbd) could not be connected.
> Device /dev/mapper/testvg-win4s is mounted in a guest domain,
> and so cannot be mounted now.
> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/win4-dm".
> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/win4-dm".
> 
> The stub domain dies immediately.


Could you please post your config file?

After the recent stubdom config file changes you only have one
configuration file, as for normal non-stubdom domains.
As a consequence you need to specify in that config file all the
informations, including vif and disk and graphic frontend type.

Sorry for the late reply,

Stefano

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* Re: Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3?
  2009-05-08 14:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
@ 2009-05-08 16:28   ` Keith Coleman
  2009-05-08 18:44     ` Stefano Stabellini
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Keith Coleman @ 2009-05-08 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefano Stabellini; +Cc: xen-devel

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Stefano Stabellini
<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> Keith Coleman wrote:
>
>> Is there a known issue that prevents stub domains from working in 3.4.0-rc3?
>>
>> I attempted to use a stub domain configuration files that worked in
>> xen 3.3.1 but they don't work due to the recent addition of
>> automatically generated -dm files. Moving some config lines from the
>> old -dm file to the -stub file allows the creation process to go a
>> little further but I get the following error:
>>
>> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-win4.log
>> Error: Device 768 (vbd) could not be connected.
>> Device /dev/mapper/testvg-win4s is mounted in a guest domain,
>> and so cannot be mounted now.
>> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/win4-dm".
>> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/win4-dm".
>>
>> The stub domain dies immediately.
>
>
> Could you please post your config file?
>
> After the recent stubdom config file changes you only have one
> configuration file, as for normal non-stubdom domains.
> As a consequence you need to specify in that config file all the
> informations, including vif and disk and graphic frontend type.
>
> Sorry for the late reply,
>
> Stefano
>

My current config file is just a slightly modified version of the
xmexample.hvm. It works for regular HVM mode if I switch the
stubdom-dm for qemu-dm. I have fs-backend running in the background.

# cat stub1-clean
import os, re
arch = os.uname()[4]
if re.search('64', arch):
    arch_libdir = 'lib64'
else:
    arch_libdir = 'lib'
kernel = "/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader"
builder='hvm'
memory = 512
name = "stub1"
vif = [ 'type=ioemu, bridge=eth0' ]
disk = [ 'phy:/dev/testvg/stub1,hda,w',
         'file:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso,hdc:cdrom,r' ]
device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/stubdom-dm'
#device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/qemu-dm'
boot="dca"
sdl=0
opengl=1
vnc=1
vnclisten="0.0.0.0"
vncpasswd=''
stdvga=0
serial='pty'
usb=1
usbdevice='tablet'


# cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1.log
Error: Device 768 (vbd) could not be connected.
Device /dev/mapper/testvg-stub1 is mounted in a guest domain,
and so cannot be mounted now.
Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".
Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".

# cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1-dm.log
domid: 71
Warning: vlan 0 is not connected to host network
Strip off blktap sub-type prefix to /root/isos/win2003entR2.iso (drv 'aio')
Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/logdirty/next-active
Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/command
char device redirected to /dev/pts/3
/root/xen-3.4-rc3/xen-unstable.hg/tools/ioemu-dir/hw/xen_blktap.c:628:
Init blktap pipes
xs_read(): vncpasswd get error.
/vm/e0dd1e52-a827-8c47-7e3d-cc26941e4419/vncpasswd.
medium change watch on `hdc' (index: 1): aio:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso



-Keith

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* Re: Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3?
  2009-05-08 16:28   ` Keith Coleman
@ 2009-05-08 18:44     ` Stefano Stabellini
  2009-05-08 21:35       ` Keith Coleman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Stabellini @ 2009-05-08 18:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith Coleman; +Cc: xen-devel

The problem seems to be the "phy" disk that does not work correctly, but
I don't think it is caused by a bug in the new stubdomain config file
generator.
In fact I can reproduce the bug even using the old stubdom-dm script.

Keith Coleman wrote:

> 
> My current config file is just a slightly modified version of the
> xmexample.hvm. It works for regular HVM mode if I switch the
> stubdom-dm for qemu-dm. I have fs-backend running in the background.
> 
> # cat stub1-clean
> import os, re
> arch = os.uname()[4]
> if re.search('64', arch):
>     arch_libdir = 'lib64'
> else:
>     arch_libdir = 'lib'
> kernel = "/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader"
> builder='hvm'
> memory = 512
> name = "stub1"
> vif = [ 'type=ioemu, bridge=eth0' ]
> disk = [ 'phy:/dev/testvg/stub1,hda,w',
>          'file:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso,hdc:cdrom,r' ]
> device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/stubdom-dm'
> #device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/qemu-dm'
> boot="dca"
> sdl=0
> opengl=1
> vnc=1
> vnclisten="0.0.0.0"
> vncpasswd=''
> stdvga=0
> serial='pty'
> usb=1
> usbdevice='tablet'
> 
> 
> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1.log
> Error: Device 768 (vbd) could not be connected.
> Device /dev/mapper/testvg-stub1 is mounted in a guest domain,
> and so cannot be mounted now.
> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".
> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".
> 
> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1-dm.log
> domid: 71
> Warning: vlan 0 is not connected to host network
> Strip off blktap sub-type prefix to /root/isos/win2003entR2.iso (drv 'aio')
> Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/logdirty/next-active
> Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/command
> char device redirected to /dev/pts/3
> /root/xen-3.4-rc3/xen-unstable.hg/tools/ioemu-dir/hw/xen_blktap.c:628:
> Init blktap pipes
> xs_read(): vncpasswd get error.
> /vm/e0dd1e52-a827-8c47-7e3d-cc26941e4419/vncpasswd.
> medium change watch on `hdc' (index: 1): aio:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso
> 
> 
> 
> -Keith
> 

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* Re: Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3?
  2009-05-08 18:44     ` Stefano Stabellini
@ 2009-05-08 21:35       ` Keith Coleman
  2009-05-08 23:41         ` Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Keith Coleman @ 2009-05-08 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefano Stabellini; +Cc: xen-devel

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Stefano Stabellini
<stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> The problem seems to be the "phy" disk that does not work correctly, but
> I don't think it is caused by a bug in the new stubdomain config file
> generator.
> In fact I can reproduce the bug even using the old stubdom-dm script.
>
> Keith Coleman wrote:
>
>>
>> My current config file is just a slightly modified version of the
>> xmexample.hvm. It works for regular HVM mode if I switch the
>> stubdom-dm for qemu-dm. I have fs-backend running in the background.
>>
>> # cat stub1-clean
>> import os, re
>> arch = os.uname()[4]
>> if re.search('64', arch):
>>     arch_libdir = 'lib64'
>> else:
>>     arch_libdir = 'lib'
>> kernel = "/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader"
>> builder='hvm'
>> memory = 512
>> name = "stub1"
>> vif = [ 'type=ioemu, bridge=eth0' ]
>> disk = [ 'phy:/dev/testvg/stub1,hda,w',
>>          'file:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso,hdc:cdrom,r' ]
>> device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/stubdom-dm'
>> #device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/qemu-dm'
>> boot="dca"
>> sdl=0
>> opengl=1
>> vnc=1
>> vnclisten="0.0.0.0"
>> vncpasswd=''
>> stdvga=0
>> serial='pty'
>> usb=1
>> usbdevice='tablet'
>>
>>
>> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1.log
>> Error: Device 768 (vbd) could not be connected.
>> Device /dev/mapper/testvg-stub1 is mounted in a guest domain,
>> and so cannot be mounted now.
>> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".
>> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".
>>
>> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1-dm.log
>> domid: 71
>> Warning: vlan 0 is not connected to host network
>> Strip off blktap sub-type prefix to /root/isos/win2003entR2.iso (drv 'aio')
>> Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/logdirty/next-active
>> Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/command
>> char device redirected to /dev/pts/3
>> /root/xen-3.4-rc3/xen-unstable.hg/tools/ioemu-dir/hw/xen_blktap.c:628:
>> Init blktap pipes
>> xs_read(): vncpasswd get error.
>> /vm/e0dd1e52-a827-8c47-7e3d-cc26941e4419/vncpasswd.
>> medium change watch on `hdc' (index: 1): aio:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso
>>
>>
>>
>> -Keith
>>
>
>
>

I agree that this may have nothing to do with the new stubdom config
generator. I have not been able to use stub domains in any of the
3.4.0-rc releases.

You are probably correct about an issue with the phy disk in stubdom.
Even on the stable code (3.3.1) certain types of block devices don't
seem to fully work in stub domains. DRBD is one such device.

I would very much like to see stub domains working properly in time
for the 3.4.0 release!

Keith

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* Re: Re: Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3?
  2009-05-08 21:35       ` Keith Coleman
@ 2009-05-08 23:41         ` Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro
  2009-05-09  7:57           ` Keir Fraser
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro @ 2009-05-08 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keith Coleman; +Cc: xen-devel, Stefano Stabellini


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 > I would very much like to see stub domains working properly in time for
the 3.4.0 release!

+1

:-D

2009/5/8 Keith Coleman <list.keith@scaltro.com>

> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Stefano Stabellini
> <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> > The problem seems to be the "phy" disk that does not work correctly, but
> > I don't think it is caused by a bug in the new stubdomain config file
> > generator.
> > In fact I can reproduce the bug even using the old stubdom-dm script.
> >
> > Keith Coleman wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> My current config file is just a slightly modified version of the
> >> xmexample.hvm. It works for regular HVM mode if I switch the
> >> stubdom-dm for qemu-dm. I have fs-backend running in the background.
> >>
> >> # cat stub1-clean
> >> import os, re
> >> arch = os.uname()[4]
> >> if re.search('64', arch):
> >>     arch_libdir = 'lib64'
> >> else:
> >>     arch_libdir = 'lib'
> >> kernel = "/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader"
> >> builder='hvm'
> >> memory = 512
> >> name = "stub1"
> >> vif = [ 'type=ioemu, bridge=eth0' ]
> >> disk = [ 'phy:/dev/testvg/stub1,hda,w',
> >>          'file:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso,hdc:cdrom,r' ]
> >> device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/stubdom-dm'
> >> #device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/qemu-dm'
> >> boot="dca"
> >> sdl=0
> >> opengl=1
> >> vnc=1
> >> vnclisten="0.0.0.0"
> >> vncpasswd=''
> >> stdvga=0
> >> serial='pty'
> >> usb=1
> >> usbdevice='tablet'
> >>
> >>
> >> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1.log
> >> Error: Device 768 (vbd) could not be connected.
> >> Device /dev/mapper/testvg-stub1 is mounted in a guest domain,
> >> and so cannot be mounted now.
> >> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".
> >> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".
> >>
> >> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1-dm.log
> >> domid: 71
> >> Warning: vlan 0 is not connected to host network
> >> Strip off blktap sub-type prefix to /root/isos/win2003entR2.iso (drv
> 'aio')
> >> Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/logdirty/next-active
> >> Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/command
> >> char device redirected to /dev/pts/3
> >> /root/xen-3.4-rc3/xen-unstable.hg/tools/ioemu-dir/hw/xen_blktap.c:628:
> >> Init blktap pipes
> >> xs_read(): vncpasswd get error.
> >> /vm/e0dd1e52-a827-8c47-7e3d-cc26941e4419/vncpasswd.
> >> medium change watch on `hdc' (index: 1): aio:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Keith
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> I agree that this may have nothing to do with the new stubdom config
> generator. I have not been able to use stub domains in any of the
> 3.4.0-rc releases.
>
> You are probably correct about an issue with the phy disk in stubdom.
> Even on the stable code (3.3.1) certain types of block devices don't
> seem to fully work in stub domains. DRBD is one such device.
>
> I would very much like to see stub domains working properly in time
> for the 3.4.0 release!
>
> Keith
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
>

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* Re: Re: Stub domains broken in 3.4.0-rc3?
  2009-05-08 23:41         ` Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro
@ 2009-05-09  7:57           ` Keir Fraser
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Keir Fraser @ 2009-05-09  7:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro, Keith Coleman
  Cc: xen-devel, Stefano Stabellini

Realistically at this point you're looking at 3.4.1 imo. Since 3.4.0 is out
the door next week.

 -- Keir

On 09/05/2009 00:41, "Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro"
<thiagocmartinsc@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I would very much like to see stub domains working properly in time for the
>> 3.4.0 release!
> 
> +1
> 
> :-D
> 
> 2009/5/8 Keith Coleman <list.keith@scaltro.com>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Stefano Stabellini
>> <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>>> The problem seems to be the "phy" disk that does not work correctly, but
>>> I don't think it is caused by a bug in the new stubdomain config file
>>> generator.
>>> In fact I can reproduce the bug even using the old stubdom-dm script.
>>> 
>>> Keith Coleman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My current config file is just a slightly modified version of the
>>>> xmexample.hvm. It works for regular HVM mode if I switch the
>>>> stubdom-dm for qemu-dm. I have fs-backend running in the background.
>>>> 
>>>> # cat stub1-clean
>>>> import os, re
>>>> arch = os.uname()[4]
>>>> if re.search('64', arch):
>>>>     arch_libdir = 'lib64'
>>>> else:
>>>>     arch_libdir = 'lib'
>>>> kernel = "/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader"
>>>> builder='hvm'
>>>> memory = 512
>>>> name = "stub1"
>>>> vif = [ 'type=ioemu, bridge=eth0' ]
>>>> disk = [ 'phy:/dev/testvg/stub1,hda,w',
>>>>          'file:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso,hdc:cdrom,r' ]
>>>> device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/stubdom-dm'
>>>> #device_model = '/usr/' + arch_libdir + '/xen/bin/qemu-dm'
>>>> boot="dca"
>>>> sdl=0
>>>> opengl=1
>>>> vnc=1
>>>> vnclisten="0.0.0.0"
>>>> vncpasswd=''
>>>> stdvga=0
>>>> serial='pty'
>>>> usb=1
>>>> usbdevice='tablet'
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1.log
>>>> Error: Device 768 (vbd) could not be connected.
>>>> Device /dev/mapper/testvg-stub1 is mounted in a guest domain,
>>>> and so cannot be mounted now.
>>>> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".
>>>> Using config file "/etc/xen/stubdoms/stub1-dm".
>>>> 
>>>> # cat /var/log/xen/qemu-dm-stub1-dm.log
>>>> domid: 71
>>>> Warning: vlan 0 is not connected to host network
>>>> Strip off blktap sub-type prefix to /root/isos/win2003entR2.iso (drv 'aio')
>>>> Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/logdirty/next-active
>>>> Watching /local/domain/0/device-model/71/command
>>>> char device redirected to /dev/pts/3
>>>> /root/xen-3.4-rc3/xen-unstable.hg/tools/ioemu-dir/hw/xen_blktap.c:628:
>>>> Init blktap pipes
>>>> xs_read(): vncpasswd get error.
>>>> /vm/e0dd1e52-a827-8c47-7e3d-cc26941e4419/vncpasswd.
>>>> medium change watch on `hdc' (index: 1): aio:/root/isos/win2003entR2.iso
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Keith
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I agree that this may have nothing to do with the new stubdom config
>> generator. I have not been able to use stub domains in any of the
>> 3.4.0-rc releases.
>> 
>> You are probably correct about an issue with the phy disk in stubdom.
>> Even on the stable code (3.3.1) certain types of block devices don't
>> seem to fully work in stub domains. DRBD is one such device.
>> 
>> I would very much like to see stub domains working properly in time
>> for the 3.4.0 release!
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xen-devel mailing list
>> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
>> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
> 
> 

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