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From: Arend van Spriel <arend@broadcom.com>
To: Maximilian Engelhardt <maxi@daemonizer.de>
Cc: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
	<brcm80211-dev-list@broadcom.com>,
	<linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: BCM4313 & brcmsmac & 3.12: only semi-working?
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:06:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <542A8092.9090602@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2326963.udog5tteBt@eisbaer>

On 09/29/14 21:40, Maximilian Engelhardt wrote:
> On Monday 29 September 2014 15:44:03 Arend van Spriel wrote:
>> On 09/26/14 17:20, Michael Tokarev wrote:
>>> I can send it your way, -- guess it will be quite a bit costly,
>>> but I don't have any use for it anyway (short of throwing it
>>> away), and since I already spent significantly more money due
>>> to all this (whole thinkpad plus ssds and several wifi adaptors),
>>> this additional cost is just a small noize.  But since that's
>>> 2nd card in a row, maybe there's something else in there, the
>>> prob is not in the card?
>>
>> Could be. Maybe some BIOS issue. Can you make some hi-res pictures of
>> the card and email them to me? If it is identical to what I already have
>> over here there is not much sense in sending it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Arend
>
> Hi Arend,
>
> I just saw this thread on linux-wireless and wanted to answer as it might be
> of interest to you.
>
> I also own a BCM4313 wireless network card. About a year ago I reported some
> problems with reception strength which were then fixed after some time,
> debugging and testing passed. At that time I also did some throughput testing,
> but only had a 802.11g access-point to test. The results were not ideal, but
> also not too bad. So at that time I thought the issues were all more or less
> fixed and mostly fine. I also don't use wireless very much, so as long as things
> do work somehow acceptable I probably don't notice any problems immediately.
> So it comes that only about some month ago I noticed that the throughput I
> measured with my 11g access-point (about half the rate than with an atheros
> card on the same ap) is about the same on a 11n access-point where it should
> be much faster. I didn't experience any stalls, but that may also be that I
> didn't use the card enough to really notice them.
>
> I always wanted to report a bug because of the low throughout, but never got
> to it because of lack of time. I didn't want to provide a report saying just
> it doesn't work or it's slow without any data about it and a description how
> to reproduce it, as I think without this information a bug report is mostly
> useless.
>
> I also had a look at the kernel changelog of the brcmsm driver and notices
> there was little to no activity lately. Because of this I also wasn't sure if
> there is still someone interesting in fixing bugs for this device.
>
> As I was annoyed by the bad support for this card I decided it would be more
> easy and much less time consuming to simply buy another card than trying to
> get this fixed. So I bought a BCM43228 card, because it also supports 5 GHz.
> Only after it arrived I noticed that it was only supported by the 3.17+ kernel
> (not so much of a problem) and that it only seems to work in 802.11g mode
> (only slow speeds and no 5 GHz). At least I could use it in full 11g speeds,
> so it was a improvement.
>
> So I still don't have a card that does simply work. As I hope the missing
> support for my BCM43228 will hopefully be added some time in the future it
> probably would still be worth fixing the BCM4313 card as other users will also
> benefit from it.
>
> A friend of mine also has the same laptop than me and the same (or at least
> very similar) wireless card. He has told me he has also problem with stalls
> like Michael reported (if I remember the history of the thread correctly).
>
> So I'm not really sure where I should go from here. I can try to provide some
> debugging information as time permits, but I don't know how much time I will
> have for this in the future. Of course ideally I want to use the BCM43228 card
> with full support, as it can work on 5 GHz.
>
> Currently the BCM43228 card is plugged into my laptop, but I want to avoid
> swapping the cards more that very few times because the antenna connectors are
> only designed for very few (un)plug cycles.
>
> If it's of any information, my card is labeled BCM-BCM94313HMGB on the
> sticker, the laptop where it was originally is a ThinkPad Edge E135.

Thanks for taking time to chime in. This chipset is a pain in the....
The label info does help. You have a 4313 with internal PA for which 
support was added later. The card that Michael has seems to have an 
external PA. The initial iPA support patch broke things for everyone 
with external PA so it was reverted. In the second round it was better, 
but it seems Michael still had issues. As he mentioned BT issues and his 
card shares the external PA between WLAN and BT I believe that there is 
a BT-coex issue.

What is causing your 4313 to seemingly do 11g rates is hard to tell 
without any debug info. I have that card over here, but in my cabled 
setup it is doing 72Mbps, ie. 11n rate. I can run a rate-vs-range test 
to see if there is an issue.

Thanks again and
Regards,
Arend




  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-30 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-27 20:58 BCM4313 & brcmsmac & 3.12: only semi-working? Michael Tokarev
2013-12-28  9:42 ` Arend van Spriel
2013-12-28 12:24   ` Michael Tokarev
2014-01-14  8:59     ` Michael Tokarev
2014-01-14  9:30       ` Nikita N.
2014-02-10 19:16       ` Michael Tokarev
2014-04-19 11:42         ` Michael Tokarev
2014-08-26  5:13           ` Michael Tokarev
2014-08-26 14:56             ` Arend van Spriel
2014-08-26 14:56               ` Arend van Spriel
2014-08-26 16:15               ` Michael Tokarev
2014-08-26 21:37                 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-08-27 10:02                   ` Michael Tokarev
2014-08-27 15:27                     ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-15  8:03                       ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-21 15:30                         ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-23 10:04                           ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-23 12:47                             ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-23 13:44                               ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-23 13:44                                 ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-23 13:50                                 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-23 13:50                                   ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-23 14:25                                   ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-23 14:28                                     ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-23 14:31                                       ` Seth Forshee
2014-09-23 16:02                                         ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-23 16:02                                           ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-23 17:35                                           ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-23 18:10                                             ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-24 13:28                                               ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-24 13:28                                                 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-24 14:51                                                 ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-24 14:51                                                   ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-26 14:26                                                   ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-26 14:42                                                     ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-26 15:20                                                       ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-26 15:20                                                         ` Michael Tokarev
2014-09-29 13:44                                                         ` Arend van Spriel
2014-09-29 19:40                                                           ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2014-09-30 10:06                                                             ` Arend van Spriel [this message]
2014-10-08 22:19                                                               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2014-10-09  7:52                                                                 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-10-09  8:21                                                                   ` Rafał Miłecki
2014-11-17 22:36                                                                     ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2014-11-19  9:04                                                                       ` Michael Tokarev
2014-11-19 17:54                                                                         ` Arend van Spriel
2014-11-19 19:58                                                                           ` Michael Tokarev
2014-11-19 21:00                                                                             ` Michael Tokarev
2014-11-23  9:43                                                                               ` Arend van Spriel
2014-11-26  9:52                                                                                 ` Michael Tokarev
2014-11-30 12:04                                                                                   ` Arend van Spriel
2014-11-30 12:04                                                                                     ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-02 21:40                                                                                     ` Michael Tokarev
2014-12-02 21:40                                                                                       ` Michael Tokarev
2014-12-03 12:43                                                                                       ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-16 16:51                                                                                         ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-21  9:58                                                                                           ` Michael Tokarev
2014-12-21  9:58                                                                                             ` Michael Tokarev
2014-12-21 10:12                                                                                             ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-21 10:12                                                                                               ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-21 10:27                                                                                               ` Michael Tokarev
2014-12-21 11:38                                                                                                 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-21 14:08                                                                                               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2014-12-21 14:08                                                                                                 ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2014-12-21 14:13                                                                                                 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-21 14:24                                                                                                   ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2014-12-21 15:03                                                                                                     ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-21 17:34                                                                                                       ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2015-03-09 20:54                                                                                                         ` Daniel Glöckner
2015-03-09 20:54                                                                                                           ` Daniel Glöckner
2015-03-10 21:27                                                                                                           ` Arend van Spriel
2016-03-14 16:41                                                                                                             ` Daniel Glöckner
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <54969A46.8000807@msgid.tls.msk.ru>
2014-12-21 10:17                                                                                             ` Arend van Spriel
2014-12-01 22:06                                                                                   ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2014-11-19 13:46                                                                       ` Arend van Spriel
2014-11-19 13:49                                                                         ` Arend van Spriel
2014-11-19 13:49                                                                           ` Arend van Spriel
2020-08-24  3:44 Sébastien Le Preste De Vauban

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