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From: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>
To: Mychaela Falconia <mychaela.falconia@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Maarten Brock <m.brock@vanmierlo.com>,
	Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
	"Mychaela N . Falconia" <falcon@freecalypso.org>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] tty: add flag to suppress ready signalling on open
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 09:46:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54f40116-9a11-8daa-d3cd-5557cc60a4ef@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+uuBqaNcKadyLRyufm+6HUHXcs7o0rtgw84BrHc7Jq9PauV8Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 10. 12. 20, 19:59, Mychaela Falconia wrote:
>> O_DIRECT is an interesting hack, has anyone seen if it violates the
>> posix rules for us to use it on a character device like this?
> 
> According to open(2) Linux man page, O_DIRECT does not come from POSIX
> at all, instead it is specific to Linux, FreeBSD and SGI IRIX.  Thus
> it seems like there aren't any POSIX rules to be violated here.
> 
> If we go with O_DIRECT, what semantics are we going to implement?
> There are 3 possibilities that come to mind most readily:
> 
> 1) O_DIRECT applies only to the open call in which this flag is set,
> and suppresses DTR/RTS assertion on that open.  If someone needs to do
> multiple opens with DTR/RTS suppression being required every time,
> then they need to include O_DIRECT every time.
> 
> 2) O_DIRECT applies not only immediately, but also sets a latched flag
> whereby all subsequent opens continue to suppress auto-assertion
> without requiring O_DIRECT every time.  This approach by itself runs
> counter to the generic Unix way of doing things, but it may be OK if
> there is also some ioctl to explicitly set or clear the latched flag.
> 
> 3) O_DIRECT applies only to the open call in which it is set, no
> built-in latching, but there is also some ioctl to control a flag
> enabling or disabling DTR/RTS auto-assertion on subsequent opens.

3) -- to allow standard tools to work on the device after the quirk is 
set up once.

thanks,
-- 
js

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-11  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-02 11:39 [PATCH v2 0/7] tty: add flag to suppress ready signalling on open Johan Hovold
2020-12-02 11:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] tty: use assign_bit() in port-flag accessors Johan Hovold
2020-12-02 11:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] tty: use const parameters " Johan Hovold
2020-12-02 11:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] tty: add port flag to suppress ready signalling on open Johan Hovold
2020-12-02 11:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] serial: core: add sysfs attribute " Johan Hovold
2020-12-02 11:39 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] USB: serial: " Johan Hovold
2020-12-02 11:39 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] USB: serial: ftdi_sio: pass port to quirk port_probe functions Johan Hovold
2020-12-02 11:39 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] USB: serial: ftdi_sio: add support for FreeCalypso DUART28C adapter Johan Hovold
2020-12-02 18:07 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] tty: add flag to suppress ready signalling on open Mychaela Falconia
2020-12-03  9:21   ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-09 14:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-12-09 15:10   ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-09 22:49   ` Mychaela Falconia
2020-12-10  9:06     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-12-10 10:41     ` Maarten Brock
2020-12-10 10:50       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-12-10 12:05         ` Maarten Brock
2020-12-10 13:01           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-12-10 18:59             ` Mychaela Falconia
2020-12-11  8:46               ` Jiri Slaby [this message]
2020-12-11 16:08                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-12-11 15:51               ` Maarten Brock
2020-12-11 16:08               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-12-14 14:21               ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-18 18:03                 ` Mychaela Falconia
2021-01-07 15:25                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                   ` <YBPxG+i/ZLP8/wg1@hovoldconsulting.com>
2021-01-31  0:18                     ` Mychaela Falconia
2021-01-31  5:24                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-12-11 10:46             ` Johan Hovold
2020-12-11 10:41       ` Johan Hovold

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