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From: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Intel Graphics Development <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Ilya Trukhanov <lahvuun@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2 18/19] Revert "fbdev: Prevent probing generic drivers if a FB is already registered"
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 15:25:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54f4cb72-1640-939d-0b7b-9a1b989cd5eb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uH4GgDQJZguT-k0QmgEAHYHuDEbBtjYje51_Rtqzud0yw@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/5/22 12:34, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 11:52, Javier Martinez Canillas
> <javierm@redhat.com> wrote:

[snip]

>>
>> I believe the correct fix would be for the fbdev core to keep a list of
>> the apertures struct that are passed to remove_conflicting_framebuffers(),
>> that way it will know what apertures are not available anymore and prevent
>> to register any fbdev framebuffer that conflicts with one already present.
> 
> Hm that still feels like reinventing a driver model, badly.
>

Yeah, you are correct.
 
> I think there's two cleaner solutions:
> - move all the firmware driver platform_dev into sysfb.c, and then
> just bind the special cases against that (e.g. offb, vga16fb and all
> these). Then we'd have one sysfb_try_unregister(struct device *dev)
> interface that fbmem.c uses.

I think this is the cleaner option. And makes sense to consolidate all
the firmware drivers platform device registration to sysfb.c.

Already does for VIDEO_TYPE_EFI ("efi-framebuffer") and VIDEO_TYPE_VLFB
("vesa-framebuffer"), so need to also make it cope with VIDEO_TYPE_EGAC
and VIDEO_TYPE_VGAC ("vga16fb").

For offb is less clear since currently the offb driver does not really
use the Linux device model, that is the driver does not match a device
that's registered, there's no device which is the bug that was reported
to Thomas in the other thread.

It's unclear how to properly fix that since we will need to convert the
offb driver to register a platform driver and match against a device that
is registered by some platform code that parses the OF...

> - let fbmem.c call into each of these firmware device providers, which
> means some loops most likely (like we can't call into vga16fb), so
> probably need to move that into fbmem.c and it all gets a bit messy.
> 

Yup, that would get messy indeed so not a good option.

>> Let me know if you think that makes sense and I can attempt to write a fix.
> 
> I still think unregistering the platform_dev properly makes the most
> sense, and feels like the most proper linux device model solution
> instead of hacks on top - if the firmware fb is unuseable because a
> native driver has taken over, we should nuke that. And also the
> firmware fb driver would then just bind to that platform_dev if it
> exists, and only if it exists. Also I think it should be the
> responsibility of whichever piece of code that registers these
> platform devices to ensure that platform_dev actually still exists.
> That's why I think pushing all that code into sysfb.c is probably the
> cleanest solution.
>

Agreed. Not registering the platform devices if there is already a DRM
driver for the same device is what makes the most sense. What I don't
understand is how sysfb would know that if run after a DRM registration.

The only way that could know is if sysfb would keep a list of apertures
for all the DRM drivers registered or if the DRM core somewhat notifies
to sysfb that a native driver was already registered.

Another option and probably the cleanest although the harder solution is
to finally bite the bullet and make all the DRM drivers to request their
memory region.

Or as you mentioned in the past, to move that logic into the device model
and then not allow to register devices that require an overlapping region.

And there could be a request_mem_region_remove_conflicting() or something
that real DRM drivers could use to force a memory region request and make
the device model to unregister any device that may already have that mem.

-- 
Best regards,

Javier Martinez Canillas
Linux Engineering
Red Hat


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Intel Graphics Development <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Ilya Trukhanov <lahvuun@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 18/19] Revert "fbdev: Prevent probing generic drivers if a FB is already registered"
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 15:25:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54f4cb72-1640-939d-0b7b-9a1b989cd5eb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uH4GgDQJZguT-k0QmgEAHYHuDEbBtjYje51_Rtqzud0yw@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/5/22 12:34, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 11:52, Javier Martinez Canillas
> <javierm@redhat.com> wrote:

[snip]

>>
>> I believe the correct fix would be for the fbdev core to keep a list of
>> the apertures struct that are passed to remove_conflicting_framebuffers(),
>> that way it will know what apertures are not available anymore and prevent
>> to register any fbdev framebuffer that conflicts with one already present.
> 
> Hm that still feels like reinventing a driver model, badly.
>

Yeah, you are correct.
 
> I think there's two cleaner solutions:
> - move all the firmware driver platform_dev into sysfb.c, and then
> just bind the special cases against that (e.g. offb, vga16fb and all
> these). Then we'd have one sysfb_try_unregister(struct device *dev)
> interface that fbmem.c uses.

I think this is the cleaner option. And makes sense to consolidate all
the firmware drivers platform device registration to sysfb.c.

Already does for VIDEO_TYPE_EFI ("efi-framebuffer") and VIDEO_TYPE_VLFB
("vesa-framebuffer"), so need to also make it cope with VIDEO_TYPE_EGAC
and VIDEO_TYPE_VGAC ("vga16fb").

For offb is less clear since currently the offb driver does not really
use the Linux device model, that is the driver does not match a device
that's registered, there's no device which is the bug that was reported
to Thomas in the other thread.

It's unclear how to properly fix that since we will need to convert the
offb driver to register a platform driver and match against a device that
is registered by some platform code that parses the OF...

> - let fbmem.c call into each of these firmware device providers, which
> means some loops most likely (like we can't call into vga16fb), so
> probably need to move that into fbmem.c and it all gets a bit messy.
> 

Yup, that would get messy indeed so not a good option.

>> Let me know if you think that makes sense and I can attempt to write a fix.
> 
> I still think unregistering the platform_dev properly makes the most
> sense, and feels like the most proper linux device model solution
> instead of hacks on top - if the firmware fb is unuseable because a
> native driver has taken over, we should nuke that. And also the
> firmware fb driver would then just bind to that platform_dev if it
> exists, and only if it exists. Also I think it should be the
> responsibility of whichever piece of code that registers these
> platform devices to ensure that platform_dev actually still exists.
> That's why I think pushing all that code into sysfb.c is probably the
> cleanest solution.
>

Agreed. Not registering the platform devices if there is already a DRM
driver for the same device is what makes the most sense. What I don't
understand is how sysfb would know that if run after a DRM registration.

The only way that could know is if sysfb would keep a list of apertures
for all the DRM drivers registered or if the DRM core somewhat notifies
to sysfb that a native driver was already registered.

Another option and probably the cleanest although the harder solution is
to finally bite the bullet and make all the DRM drivers to request their
memory region.

Or as you mentioned in the past, to move that logic into the device model
and then not allow to register devices that require an overlapping region.

And there could be a request_mem_region_remove_conflicting() or something
that real DRM drivers could use to force a memory region request and make
the device model to unregister any device that may already have that mem.

-- 
Best regards,

Javier Martinez Canillas
Linux Engineering
Red Hat


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Intel Graphics Development <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Ilya Trukhanov <lahvuun@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 18/19] Revert "fbdev: Prevent probing generic drivers if a FB is already registered"
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2022 15:25:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54f4cb72-1640-939d-0b7b-9a1b989cd5eb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uH4GgDQJZguT-k0QmgEAHYHuDEbBtjYje51_Rtqzud0yw@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/5/22 12:34, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 11:52, Javier Martinez Canillas
> <javierm@redhat.com> wrote:

[snip]

>>
>> I believe the correct fix would be for the fbdev core to keep a list of
>> the apertures struct that are passed to remove_conflicting_framebuffers(),
>> that way it will know what apertures are not available anymore and prevent
>> to register any fbdev framebuffer that conflicts with one already present.
> 
> Hm that still feels like reinventing a driver model, badly.
>

Yeah, you are correct.
 
> I think there's two cleaner solutions:
> - move all the firmware driver platform_dev into sysfb.c, and then
> just bind the special cases against that (e.g. offb, vga16fb and all
> these). Then we'd have one sysfb_try_unregister(struct device *dev)
> interface that fbmem.c uses.

I think this is the cleaner option. And makes sense to consolidate all
the firmware drivers platform device registration to sysfb.c.

Already does for VIDEO_TYPE_EFI ("efi-framebuffer") and VIDEO_TYPE_VLFB
("vesa-framebuffer"), so need to also make it cope with VIDEO_TYPE_EGAC
and VIDEO_TYPE_VGAC ("vga16fb").

For offb is less clear since currently the offb driver does not really
use the Linux device model, that is the driver does not match a device
that's registered, there's no device which is the bug that was reported
to Thomas in the other thread.

It's unclear how to properly fix that since we will need to convert the
offb driver to register a platform driver and match against a device that
is registered by some platform code that parses the OF...

> - let fbmem.c call into each of these firmware device providers, which
> means some loops most likely (like we can't call into vga16fb), so
> probably need to move that into fbmem.c and it all gets a bit messy.
> 

Yup, that would get messy indeed so not a good option.

>> Let me know if you think that makes sense and I can attempt to write a fix.
> 
> I still think unregistering the platform_dev properly makes the most
> sense, and feels like the most proper linux device model solution
> instead of hacks on top - if the firmware fb is unuseable because a
> native driver has taken over, we should nuke that. And also the
> firmware fb driver would then just bind to that platform_dev if it
> exists, and only if it exists. Also I think it should be the
> responsibility of whichever piece of code that registers these
> platform devices to ensure that platform_dev actually still exists.
> That's why I think pushing all that code into sysfb.c is probably the
> cleanest solution.
>

Agreed. Not registering the platform devices if there is already a DRM
driver for the same device is what makes the most sense. What I don't
understand is how sysfb would know that if run after a DRM registration.

The only way that could know is if sysfb would keep a list of apertures
for all the DRM drivers registered or if the DRM core somewhat notifies
to sysfb that a native driver was already registered.

Another option and probably the cleanest although the harder solution is
to finally bite the bullet and make all the DRM drivers to request their
memory region.

Or as you mentioned in the past, to move that logic into the device model
and then not allow to register devices that require an overlapping region.

And there could be a request_mem_region_remove_conflicting() or something
that real DRM drivers could use to force a memory region request and make
the device model to unregister any device that may already have that mem.

-- 
Best regards,

Javier Martinez Canillas
Linux Engineering
Red Hat


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-05 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-08 21:08 [PATCH v2 00/19] fbcon patches, take two Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] fbcon: delete a few unneeded forward decl Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-10 11:17   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:17     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] fbcon: Move fbcon_bmove(_rec) functions Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 23:06   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-08 23:06     ` [Intel-gfx] " Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-08 23:06     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-10 11:17   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:17     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] fbcon: Introduce wrapper for console->fb_info lookup Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-10 11:18   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:18     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:18     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] fbcon: delete delayed loading code Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-10 11:20   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:20     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:20     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] fbdev/sysfs: Fix locking Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-10 11:22   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:22     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] fbcon: Use delayed work for cursor Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 23:59   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-08 23:59     ` [Intel-gfx] " Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-08 23:59     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-10 11:37   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:37     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:37     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:43   ` Tetsuo Handa
2022-02-10 11:43     ` [Intel-gfx] " Tetsuo Handa
2022-02-10 11:43     ` Tetsuo Handa
2022-04-05 20:54     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 20:54       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 20:54       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] fbcon: Replace FBCON_FLAGS_INIT with a boolean Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] fb: Delete fb_info->queue Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-10 11:38   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:38     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] fbcon: Extract fbcon_open/release helpers Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-10 11:46   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:46     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 11:46     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-04-05  8:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  8:45       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  8:45       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] fbcon: Ditch error handling for con2fb_release_oldinfo Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-10 14:14   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 14:14     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 14:14     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] fbcon: move more common code into fb_open() Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-10 14:16   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 14:16     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-10 14:16     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] fbcon: use lock_fb_info in fbcon_open/release Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] fbcon: Consistently protect deferred_takeover with console_lock() Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] fbcon: Move console_lock for register/unlink/unregister Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] fbcon: Move more code into fbcon_release Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] fbcon: untangle fbcon_exit Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] fbcon: Maintain a private array of fb_info Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] Revert "fbdev: Prevent probing generic drivers if a FB is already registered" Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-09  0:19   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-09  0:19     ` [Intel-gfx] " Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-09  0:19     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-04-05  8:36     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  8:36       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  8:36       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  8:40       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  8:40         ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  9:19         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-04-05  9:19           ` [Intel-gfx] " Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-04-05  9:24           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  9:24             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  9:24             ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05  9:52             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-04-05  9:52               ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-04-05  9:52               ` [Intel-gfx] " Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-04-05 10:34               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 10:34                 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 10:34                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 13:24                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-05 13:24                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-05 13:24                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-05 13:33                   ` Greg KH
2022-04-05 13:33                     ` Greg KH
2022-04-05 13:33                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Greg KH
2022-04-05 16:12                     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 16:12                       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 16:12                       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 16:44                       ` Greg KH
2022-04-05 16:44                         ` [Intel-gfx] " Greg KH
2022-04-05 17:29                         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 17:29                           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-04-05 17:29                           ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-04-07 17:26                           ` Greg KH
2022-04-07 17:26                             ` Greg KH
2022-04-07 17:26                             ` [Intel-gfx] " Greg KH
2022-04-05 13:25                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas [this message]
2022-04-05 13:25                   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-04-05 13:25                   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-08 21:08 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] fbdev: Make registered_fb[] private to fbmem.c Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 21:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-08 23:15 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for fbcon patches, take two Patchwork
2022-02-08 23:18 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2022-02-08 23:50 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork

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