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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nathan Zimmer <nzimmer@sgi.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Scott Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel@numascale.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4
Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 23:39:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55498CDD.7010403@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5548DB38.6080402@hp.com>

On 05/05/2015 11:01 AM, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 05/05/2015 10:31 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
>> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 09:55:52AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>> On 05/05/2015 06:45 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 02:30:46PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>>>> Before the patch, the boot time from elilo prompt to ssh login 
>>>>>> was 694s.
>>>>>> After the patch, the boot up time was 346s, a saving of 348s 
>>>>>> (about 50%).
>>>>> Having to guesstimate the amount of memory which is needed for a
>>>>> successful boot will be painful.  Any number we choose will be wrong
>>>>> 99% of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the kswapd threads have started, all we need to do is to wait: 
>>>>> take
>>>>> a little nap in the allocator's page==NULL slowpath.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not seeing any reason why we can't start kswapd much earlier -
>>>>> right at the start of do_basic_setup()?
>>>> It doesn't even have to be kswapd, it just should be a thread 
>>>> pinned to
>>>> a done. The difficulty is that dealing with the system hashes means 
>>>> the
>>>> initialisation has to happen before vfs_caches_init_early() when 
>>>> there is
>>>> no scheduler. Those allocations could be delayed further but then 
>>>> there is
>>>> the possibility that the allocations would not be contiguous and 
>>>> they'd
>>>> have to rely on CMA to make the attempt. That potentially alters the
>>>> performance of the large system hashes at run time.
>>>>
>>>> We can scale the amount initialised with memory sizes relatively easy.
>>>> This boots on the same 1TB machine I was testing before but that is
>>>> hardly a surprise.
>>>>
>>>> ---8<---
>>>> mm: meminit: Take into account that large system caches scale 
>>>> linearly with memory
>>>>
>>>> Waiman Long reported a 24TB machine triggered an OOM as parallel 
>>>> memory
>>>> initialisation deferred too much memory for initialisation. The likely
>>>> consumer of this memory was large system hashes that scale with memory
>>>> size. This patch initialises at least 2G per node but scales the 
>>>> amount
>>>> initialised for larger systems.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman<mgorman@suse.de>
>>>> ---
>>>>   mm/page_alloc.c | 15 +++++++++++++--
>>>>   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>>>> index 598f78d6544c..f7cc6c9fb909 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>>>> @@ -266,15 +266,16 @@ static inline bool 
>>>> early_page_nid_uninitialised(unsigned long pfn, int nid)
>>>>    */
>>>>   static inline bool update_defer_init(pg_data_t *pgdat,
>>>>                   unsigned long pfn, unsigned long zone_end,
>>>> +                unsigned long max_initialise,
>>>>                   unsigned long *nr_initialised)
>>>>   {
>>>>       /* Always populate low zones for address-contrained 
>>>> allocations */
>>>>       if (zone_end<   pgdat_end_pfn(pgdat))
>>>>           return true;
>>>>
>>>> -    /* Initialise at least 2G of the highest zone */
>>>> +    /* Initialise at least the requested amount in the highest 
>>>> zone */
>>>>       (*nr_initialised)++;
>>>> -    if (*nr_initialised>   (2UL<<   (30 - PAGE_SHIFT))&&
>>>> +    if ((*nr_initialised>   max_initialise)&&
>>>>       (pfn&   (PAGES_PER_SECTION - 1)) == 0) {
>>>>           pgdat->first_deferred_pfn = pfn;
>>>>           return false;
>>>> @@ -299,6 +300,7 @@ static inline bool 
>>>> early_page_nid_uninitialised(unsigned long pfn, int nid)
>>>>
>>>>   static inline bool update_defer_init(pg_data_t *pgdat,
>>>>                   unsigned long pfn, unsigned long zone_end,
>>>> +                unsigned long max_initialise,
>>>>                   unsigned long *nr_initialised)
>>>>   {
>>>>       return true;
>>>> @@ -4457,11 +4459,19 @@ void __meminit memmap_init_zone(unsigned 
>>>> long size, int nid, unsigned long zone,
>>>>       unsigned long end_pfn = start_pfn + size;
>>>>       unsigned long pfn;
>>>>       struct zone *z;
>>>> +    unsigned long max_initialise;
>>>>       unsigned long nr_initialised = 0;
>>>>
>>>>       if (highest_memmap_pfn<   end_pfn - 1)
>>>>           highest_memmap_pfn = end_pfn - 1;
>>>>
>>>> +    /*
>>>> +     * Initialise at least 2G of a node but also take into account 
>>>> that
>>>> +     * two large system hashes that can take up an 8th of memory.
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    max_initialise = min(2UL<<   (30 - PAGE_SHIFT),
>>>> +            (pgdat->node_spanned_pages>>   3));
>>>> +
>>> I think you may be pre-allocating too much memory here. On the 24-TB
>>> machine, the size of the dentry and inode hash tables were 16G each.
>>> So the ratio is about is about 32G/24T = 0.13%. I think a shift
>>> factor of (>>  8) which is about 0.39% should be more than enough.
>> I was taking the most pessimistic value possible to match where those
>> hashes currently get allocated from so that the locality does not change
>> after the series is applied. Can you try both (>>  3) and (>>  8) and 
>> see
>> do both work and if so, what the timing is?
>
> Sure. I will try both and get you the results, hopefully by tomorrow 
> at the latest.
>

With the modified patch, both (>>3) and (>>8) worked without any 
problem. The bootup times are:

1. Unpatch 4.0 kernel - 694s
2. Patch kernel with 4G/node - 346s
3. Patch kernel with (>>3) - 389s
4. Patch kernel with (>>8) - 353s

Cheers,
Longman

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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nathan Zimmer <nzimmer@sgi.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Scott Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel@numascale.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4
Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 23:39:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55498CDD.7010403@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5548DB38.6080402@hp.com>

On 05/05/2015 11:01 AM, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 05/05/2015 10:31 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
>> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 09:55:52AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>> On 05/05/2015 06:45 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 02:30:46PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>>>> Before the patch, the boot time from elilo prompt to ssh login 
>>>>>> was 694s.
>>>>>> After the patch, the boot up time was 346s, a saving of 348s 
>>>>>> (about 50%).
>>>>> Having to guesstimate the amount of memory which is needed for a
>>>>> successful boot will be painful.  Any number we choose will be wrong
>>>>> 99% of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the kswapd threads have started, all we need to do is to wait: 
>>>>> take
>>>>> a little nap in the allocator's page==NULL slowpath.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not seeing any reason why we can't start kswapd much earlier -
>>>>> right at the start of do_basic_setup()?
>>>> It doesn't even have to be kswapd, it just should be a thread 
>>>> pinned to
>>>> a done. The difficulty is that dealing with the system hashes means 
>>>> the
>>>> initialisation has to happen before vfs_caches_init_early() when 
>>>> there is
>>>> no scheduler. Those allocations could be delayed further but then 
>>>> there is
>>>> the possibility that the allocations would not be contiguous and 
>>>> they'd
>>>> have to rely on CMA to make the attempt. That potentially alters the
>>>> performance of the large system hashes at run time.
>>>>
>>>> We can scale the amount initialised with memory sizes relatively easy.
>>>> This boots on the same 1TB machine I was testing before but that is
>>>> hardly a surprise.
>>>>
>>>> ---8<---
>>>> mm: meminit: Take into account that large system caches scale 
>>>> linearly with memory
>>>>
>>>> Waiman Long reported a 24TB machine triggered an OOM as parallel 
>>>> memory
>>>> initialisation deferred too much memory for initialisation. The likely
>>>> consumer of this memory was large system hashes that scale with memory
>>>> size. This patch initialises at least 2G per node but scales the 
>>>> amount
>>>> initialised for larger systems.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman<mgorman@suse.de>
>>>> ---
>>>>   mm/page_alloc.c | 15 +++++++++++++--
>>>>   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>>>> index 598f78d6544c..f7cc6c9fb909 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>>>> @@ -266,15 +266,16 @@ static inline bool 
>>>> early_page_nid_uninitialised(unsigned long pfn, int nid)
>>>>    */
>>>>   static inline bool update_defer_init(pg_data_t *pgdat,
>>>>                   unsigned long pfn, unsigned long zone_end,
>>>> +                unsigned long max_initialise,
>>>>                   unsigned long *nr_initialised)
>>>>   {
>>>>       /* Always populate low zones for address-contrained 
>>>> allocations */
>>>>       if (zone_end<   pgdat_end_pfn(pgdat))
>>>>           return true;
>>>>
>>>> -    /* Initialise at least 2G of the highest zone */
>>>> +    /* Initialise at least the requested amount in the highest 
>>>> zone */
>>>>       (*nr_initialised)++;
>>>> -    if (*nr_initialised>   (2UL<<   (30 - PAGE_SHIFT))&&
>>>> +    if ((*nr_initialised>   max_initialise)&&
>>>>       (pfn&   (PAGES_PER_SECTION - 1)) == 0) {
>>>>           pgdat->first_deferred_pfn = pfn;
>>>>           return false;
>>>> @@ -299,6 +300,7 @@ static inline bool 
>>>> early_page_nid_uninitialised(unsigned long pfn, int nid)
>>>>
>>>>   static inline bool update_defer_init(pg_data_t *pgdat,
>>>>                   unsigned long pfn, unsigned long zone_end,
>>>> +                unsigned long max_initialise,
>>>>                   unsigned long *nr_initialised)
>>>>   {
>>>>       return true;
>>>> @@ -4457,11 +4459,19 @@ void __meminit memmap_init_zone(unsigned 
>>>> long size, int nid, unsigned long zone,
>>>>       unsigned long end_pfn = start_pfn + size;
>>>>       unsigned long pfn;
>>>>       struct zone *z;
>>>> +    unsigned long max_initialise;
>>>>       unsigned long nr_initialised = 0;
>>>>
>>>>       if (highest_memmap_pfn<   end_pfn - 1)
>>>>           highest_memmap_pfn = end_pfn - 1;
>>>>
>>>> +    /*
>>>> +     * Initialise at least 2G of a node but also take into account 
>>>> that
>>>> +     * two large system hashes that can take up an 8th of memory.
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    max_initialise = min(2UL<<   (30 - PAGE_SHIFT),
>>>> +            (pgdat->node_spanned_pages>>   3));
>>>> +
>>> I think you may be pre-allocating too much memory here. On the 24-TB
>>> machine, the size of the dentry and inode hash tables were 16G each.
>>> So the ratio is about is about 32G/24T = 0.13%. I think a shift
>>> factor of (>>  8) which is about 0.39% should be more than enough.
>> I was taking the most pessimistic value possible to match where those
>> hashes currently get allocated from so that the locality does not change
>> after the series is applied. Can you try both (>>  3) and (>>  8) and 
>> see
>> do both work and if so, what the timing is?
>
> Sure. I will try both and get you the results, hopefully by tomorrow 
> at the latest.
>

With the modified patch, both (>>3) and (>>8) worked without any 
problem. The bootup times are:

1. Unpatch 4.0 kernel - 694s
2. Patch kernel with 4G/node - 346s
3. Patch kernel with (>>3) - 389s
4. Patch kernel with (>>8) - 353s

Cheers,
Longman

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-06  3:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-28 14:36 [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4 Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36 ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36 ` [PATCH 01/13] memblock: Introduce a for_each_reserved_mem_region iterator Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: meminit: Move page initialization into a separate function Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 03/13] mm: meminit: Only set page reserved in the memblock region Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-22 20:31   ` Tony Luck
2015-05-22 20:31     ` Tony Luck
2015-05-26 10:22     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-26 10:22       ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm: page_alloc: Pass PFN to __free_pages_bootmem Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:20   ` [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: pass PFN to __free_pages_bootmem -fix Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:20     ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: meminit: Make __early_pfn_to_nid SMP-safe and introduce meminit_pfn_in_nid Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 06/13] mm: meminit: Inline some helper functions Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-30 21:53   ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 21:53     ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 21:55     ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 21:55       ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-04  8:33   ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-04  8:33     ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-04  8:38     ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-04  8:38       ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 07/13] mm: meminit: Initialise a subset of struct pages if CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is set Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-29 21:19   ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-29 21:19     ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30  8:45     ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-30  8:45       ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:21   ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Initialise a subset of struct pages if CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is set -fix Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:21     ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-14 15:54   ` 4.2-rc2: hitting "file-max limit 8192 reached" Dave Hansen
2015-07-14 15:54     ` Dave Hansen
2015-07-14 16:15     ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-14 16:15       ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-15 10:45     ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-15 10:45       ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 08/13] mm: meminit: Initialise remaining struct pages in parallel with kswapd Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm: meminit: Minimise number of pfn->page lookups during initialisation Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 10/13] x86: mm: Enable deferred struct page initialisation on x86-64 Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 11/13] mm: meminit: Free pages in large chunks where possible Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: meminit: Reduce number of times pageblocks are set during struct page init Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:23   ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Reduce number of times pageblocks are set during struct page init -fix Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:23     ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: meminit: Remove mminit_verify_page_links Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37   ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 16:06 ` [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4 Pekka Enberg
2015-04-28 16:06   ` Pekka Enberg
2015-04-28 18:38   ` nzimmer
2015-04-28 18:38     ` nzimmer
2015-04-30 16:10     ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-04-30 16:10       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-04-30 17:12       ` nzimmer
2015-04-30 17:12         ` nzimmer
2015-04-30 17:28         ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-30 17:28           ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-02 11:52       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-02 11:52         ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-05-02 11:52         ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-29  1:16 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-29  1:16   ` Waiman Long
2015-05-01 22:02   ` Waiman Long
2015-05-01 22:02     ` Waiman Long
2015-05-02  0:09     ` Waiman Long
2015-05-02  0:09       ` Waiman Long
2015-05-02  8:52       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-02  8:52         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-02 16:05         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-02 16:05           ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-04 21:30       ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-04 21:30         ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05  3:32         ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05  3:32           ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 10:45         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 10:45           ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 13:55           ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 13:55             ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 14:31             ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 14:31               ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 15:01               ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 15:01                 ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  3:39                 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2015-05-06  3:39                   ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  0:55               ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  0:55                 ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 20:02           ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05 20:02             ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05 22:13             ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 22:13               ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 22:25               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05 22:25                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-06  7:12                 ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06  7:12                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 10:22                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 10:22                     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 12:05                     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 12:05                       ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 17:58                     ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06 17:58                       ` Waiman Long
2015-05-07  2:37                       ` Waiman Long
2015-05-07  2:37                         ` Waiman Long
2015-05-07  7:21                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-07  7:21                           ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06  1:21             ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  1:21               ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  2:01               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-06  2:01                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07  7:25             ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Finish initialisation of struct pages before basic setup Mel Gorman
2015-05-07  7:25               ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-07 22:09               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07 22:09                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07 22:52                 ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-07 22:52                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-07 23:02                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07 23:02                     ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-13 15:53                 ` nzimmer
2015-05-13 15:53                   ` nzimmer
2015-05-13 16:31                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-13 16:31                     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-14 10:03                     ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-14 10:03                       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-14 15:47                       ` nzimmer
2015-05-14 15:47                         ` nzimmer
2015-05-19 18:31                       ` nzimmer
2015-05-19 18:31                         ` nzimmer
2015-05-19 19:06                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-19 19:06                           ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-22  6:30                       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-22  6:30                         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-22  9:33                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-22  9:33                           ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-22 17:14                           ` Waiman Long
2015-05-22 17:14                             ` Waiman Long
2015-05-22 21:43                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-05-22 21:43                               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-05-23  3:49                             ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-23  3:49                               ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-06-24 22:50                       ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-24 22:50                         ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 20:48                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 20:48                           ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 20:57                           ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 20:57                             ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 21:37                             ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 21:37                               ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 21:34                           ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 21:34                             ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 21:44                           ` [RFC] kthread_create_on_node is failing to honor the node choice Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-26  1:08                             ` Lai Jiangshan
2015-07-09 22:12                             ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-10 14:26                               ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-10 17:34                               ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-26 10:16                         ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Finish initialisation of struct pages before basic setup Mel Gorman
2015-06-26 10:16                           ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-06 17:45                         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-07-06 17:45                           ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-07-09 17:49                           ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-07-09 17:49                             ` Nathan Zimmer

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