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* [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] sunxi: Fix dram initialization not working on some a33 devices
@ 2015-05-13 15:09 Hans de Goede
  2015-05-13 15:09 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] sunxi: Make dram odt-en configurable through Kconfig for A33 based boards Hans de Goede
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans de Goede @ 2015-05-13 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

When porting the allwinner dram init code to u-boot we missed some code
setting an extra bit when doing auto dram config.

This commits add this bit, fixing dram init not working on the ga10h
10" a33 tablet which I'm bringing up atm.

Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
---
 arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
index d03f00d..979bb3c 100644
--- a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
+++ b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
@@ -195,7 +195,7 @@ static int mctl_train_dram(struct dram_para *para)
 		(struct sunxi_mctl_ctl_reg *)SUNXI_DRAM_CTL0_BASE;
 
 	mctl_data_train_cfg(para);
-	mctl_set_pir(0x1f3);
+	mctl_set_pir(0x5f3);
 
 	return ((readl(&mctl_ctl->pgsr0) >> 20) & 0xff) ? -EIO : 0;
 }
-- 
2.4.0

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] sunxi: Make dram odt-en configurable through Kconfig for A33 based boards
  2015-05-13 15:09 [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] sunxi: Fix dram initialization not working on some a33 devices Hans de Goede
@ 2015-05-13 15:09 ` Hans de Goede
  2015-05-13 19:26   ` Ian Campbell
  2015-05-13 19:22 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] sunxi: Fix dram initialization not working on some a33 devices Ian Campbell
  2015-05-18 10:30 ` Siarhei Siamashka
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans de Goede @ 2015-05-13 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Some A33 based boards use odt, while others do not, so make this configurable.

Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
---
 arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c | 3 +--
 board/sunxi/Kconfig                       | 8 ++++++++
 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
index 979bb3c..a7a0a2e 100644
--- a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
+++ b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
@@ -19,7 +19,6 @@
 #define DRAM_CLK_MUL 2
 #define DRAM_CLK_DIV 4
 #define DRAM_SIGMA_DELTA_ENABLE 1
-#define DRAM_ODT_EN 0
 
 struct dram_para {
 	u8 cs1;
@@ -215,7 +214,7 @@ static int mctl_channel_init(struct dram_para *para)
 	clrbits_le32(&mctl_ctl->pgcr0, 0x3f << 0);
 
 	/* Set ODT */
-	if ((CONFIG_DRAM_CLK > 400) && DRAM_ODT_EN) {
+	if ((CONFIG_DRAM_CLK > 400) && CONFIG_DRAM_ODT_EN) {
 		setbits_le32(DXnGCR0(0), 0x3 << 9);
 		setbits_le32(DXnGCR0(1), 0x3 << 9);
 	} else {
diff --git a/board/sunxi/Kconfig b/board/sunxi/Kconfig
index 940b6c7..d4ae6c7 100644
--- a/board/sunxi/Kconfig
+++ b/board/sunxi/Kconfig
@@ -95,6 +95,14 @@ config DRAM_ZQ
 	---help---
 	Set the dram zq value.
 
+if MACH_SUN8I_A33
+config DRAM_ODT_EN
+	int "sunxi dram odt enable"
+	default 0
+	---help---
+	Set this to 1 to enable dram odt (on die termination)
+endif
+
 if MACH_SUN4I || MACH_SUN5I || MACH_SUN7I
 config DRAM_EMR1
 	int "sunxi dram emr1 value"
-- 
2.4.0

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] sunxi: Fix dram initialization not working on some a33 devices
  2015-05-13 15:09 [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] sunxi: Fix dram initialization not working on some a33 devices Hans de Goede
  2015-05-13 15:09 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] sunxi: Make dram odt-en configurable through Kconfig for A33 based boards Hans de Goede
@ 2015-05-13 19:22 ` Ian Campbell
  2015-05-18 10:30 ` Siarhei Siamashka
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2015-05-13 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 17:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> When porting the allwinner dram init code to u-boot we missed some code
> setting an extra bit when doing auto dram config.
> 
> This commits add this bit, fixing dram init not working on the ga10h
> 10" a33 tablet which I'm bringing up atm.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>

Acked-by: Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] sunxi: Make dram odt-en configurable through Kconfig for A33 based boards
  2015-05-13 15:09 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] sunxi: Make dram odt-en configurable through Kconfig for A33 based boards Hans de Goede
@ 2015-05-13 19:26   ` Ian Campbell
  2015-05-14 16:55     ` Hans de Goede
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2015-05-13 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 17:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> diff --git a/board/sunxi/Kconfig b/board/sunxi/Kconfig
> index 940b6c7..d4ae6c7 100644
> --- a/board/sunxi/Kconfig
> +++ b/board/sunxi/Kconfig
> @@ -95,6 +95,14 @@ config DRAM_ZQ
>  	---help---
>  	Set the dram zq value.
>  
> +if MACH_SUN8I_A33

Shouldn't this be a "depends on MACH_SUN8I_A33" in the entry itself? I
see we use if a lot in this file, is there a reason for that or just how
it has been done?

In any case using if here is at least consistent so no strong objection
on that grounds.

> +config DRAM_ODT_EN
> +	int "sunxi dram odt enable"
> +	default 0
> +	---help---
> +	Set this to 1 to enable dram odt (on die termination)

Why is this an int rather than a bool?

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] sunxi: Make dram odt-en configurable through Kconfig for A33 based boards
  2015-05-13 19:26   ` Ian Campbell
@ 2015-05-14 16:55     ` Hans de Goede
  2015-05-14 18:41       ` Ian Campbell
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans de Goede @ 2015-05-14 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi,

On 05/13/2015 09:26 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 17:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> diff --git a/board/sunxi/Kconfig b/board/sunxi/Kconfig
>> index 940b6c7..d4ae6c7 100644
>> --- a/board/sunxi/Kconfig
>> +++ b/board/sunxi/Kconfig
>> @@ -95,6 +95,14 @@ config DRAM_ZQ
>>   	---help---
>>   	Set the dram zq value.
>>
>> +if MACH_SUN8I_A33
>
> Shouldn't this be a "depends on MACH_SUN8I_A33" in the entry itself? I
> see we use if a lot in this file, is there a reason for that or just how
> it has been done?

No special reason, just copy paste from elsewhere.
>
> In any case using if here is at least consistent so no strong objection
> on that grounds.
>
>> +config DRAM_ODT_EN
>> +	int "sunxi dram odt enable"
>> +	default 0
>> +	---help---
>> +	Set this to 1 to enable dram odt (on die termination)
>
> Why is this an int rather than a bool?

Because it is used directly as an int in the code, otherwise I
need to add #ifdef-ery. I guess I could make it a bool and use
IS_ENABLED(), but that does lead to slightly less readable code
IMHO.

Regards,

Hans

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] sunxi: Make dram odt-en configurable through Kconfig for A33 based boards
  2015-05-14 16:55     ` Hans de Goede
@ 2015-05-14 18:41       ` Ian Campbell
  2015-05-15 18:02         ` Hans de Goede
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2015-05-14 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 18:55 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> >> +config DRAM_ODT_EN
> >> +	int "sunxi dram odt enable"
> >> +	default 0
> >> +	---help---
> >> +	Set this to 1 to enable dram odt (on die termination)
> >
> > Why is this an int rather than a bool?
> 
> Because it is used directly as an int in the code, otherwise I
> need to add #ifdef-ery. I guess I could make it a bool and use
> IS_ENABLED(), but that does lead to slightly less readable code
> IMHO.

I'm afraid I think IS_ENABLED is the way to go though, it's the lesser
of two evils compared with using an int for a boolean option.

Ian.

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] sunxi: Make dram odt-en configurable through Kconfig for A33 based boards
  2015-05-14 18:41       ` Ian Campbell
@ 2015-05-15 18:02         ` Hans de Goede
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans de Goede @ 2015-05-15 18:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi,

On 14-05-15 20:41, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 18:55 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>> +config DRAM_ODT_EN
>>>> +	int "sunxi dram odt enable"
>>>> +	default 0
>>>> +	---help---
>>>> +	Set this to 1 to enable dram odt (on die termination)
>>>
>>> Why is this an int rather than a bool?
>>
>> Because it is used directly as an int in the code, otherwise I
>> need to add #ifdef-ery. I guess I could make it a bool and use
>> IS_ENABLED(), but that does lead to slightly less readable code
>> IMHO.
>
> I'm afraid I think IS_ENABLED is the way to go though, it's the lesser
> of two evils compared with using an int for a boolean option.

Ok, so while trying to fix this I noticed that there already is a
definition of CONFIG_DRAM_ODT_EN in board/sunxi/Kconfig inside a

#if MACH_SUN4I || MACH_SUN5I || MACH_SUN7I

block, and that one actually really is an int (it goes from 0-3).
so I'm going to leave this as an int, and use the existing option
moving it outside of the #if MACH_SUN4I || MACH_SUN5I || MACH_SUN7I
block.

v2 coming up.

Regards,

Hans

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] sunxi: Fix dram initialization not working on some a33 devices
  2015-05-13 15:09 [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] sunxi: Fix dram initialization not working on some a33 devices Hans de Goede
  2015-05-13 15:09 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] sunxi: Make dram odt-en configurable through Kconfig for A33 based boards Hans de Goede
  2015-05-13 19:22 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] sunxi: Fix dram initialization not working on some a33 devices Ian Campbell
@ 2015-05-18 10:30 ` Siarhei Siamashka
  2015-05-18 10:56   ` Hans de Goede
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Siarhei Siamashka @ 2015-05-18 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hello Hans,

On Wed, 13 May 2015 17:09:33 +0200
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> wrote:

> When porting the allwinner dram init code to u-boot we missed some code
> setting an extra bit when doing auto dram config.

This "extra bit" actually has a name. Not using named constants
instead of the magic numbers makes the code rather difficult to
review. Your persistent refusal to use the nicely available DRAM
controller documentation may be interpreted as an act of disrespect
towards the reviewers of your code.

Basically, the A31, A23 and now A33 DRAM initialization code was
(and still is) a quick and dirty copy/paste hack. And you made exactly
no effort to make it reviewable, despite having been requested to do
so multiple times. Yes, it is nice that this code is at least able
to boot. But this alone can't tell us anything about its quality (after
all, the Allwinner's 3.4 kernel is able to boot a pretty functional
Android system too, but it contains a lot of rather questionable or
outright buggy code under the hood). The DRAM setup is really critical
for the system reliability and has long lasting effects. The bugs in
the vast majority of the rest of the U-Boot code are much less
important because, because they have no chance to cause any troubles
after the OS takes over. The DRAM initialization is different and the
"reckless cowboy" approach is simply very dangerous (assuming that
the end users may want to use their Allwinner based devices for
something more serious than just toying with them for fun).

> This commits add this bit, fixing dram init not working on the ga10h
> 10" a33 tablet which I'm bringing up atm.
>
> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
 
We were just lucky that this particular bug was too easy to notice
and fix. Are you sure that there are no other similar, but more subtle
problems, which are just more difficult to reproduce and may remain
unnoticed longer?

Based on a quick search in the mailing list archives, I have already
provided you with a link to the "spruhn7a.pdf" document 4 (!) times.
This is the fifth attempt and I'm seriously starting to lose patience.
No offense intended, but you are probably the most dense person that I
have ever met :-) There is even an updated C revision of this document:
    http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruhn7c/spruhn7c.pdf

> ---
>  arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
> index d03f00d..979bb3c 100644
> --- a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
> +++ b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
> @@ -195,7 +195,7 @@ static int mctl_train_dram(struct dram_para *para)
>  		(struct sunxi_mctl_ctl_reg *)SUNXI_DRAM_CTL0_BASE;
>  
>  	mctl_data_train_cfg(para);
> -	mctl_set_pir(0x1f3);
> +	mctl_set_pir(0x5f3);
>  
>  	return ((readl(&mctl_ctl->pgsr0) >> 20) & 0xff) ? -EIO : 0;
>  }

Now some questions to Ian Campbell. Are you really happy about
the non-descriptive commit messages like "Initial u-boot port by
Vishnu Patekar, major cleanup / rewrite by Hans de Goede" in
    http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=commit;h=ffc0ae0c70decbe5a910 ?
And are you also happy with neglecting the documentation and keeping
all these magic constants in the code? Have you in fact done the review
of the code logic? Or at least verified that it had been transplanted
from boot0 correctly without introducing any potentially problematic
functional changes?

-- 
Best regards,
Siarhei Siamashka

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] sunxi: Fix dram initialization not working on some a33 devices
  2015-05-18 10:30 ` Siarhei Siamashka
@ 2015-05-18 10:56   ` Hans de Goede
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans de Goede @ 2015-05-18 10:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi Sairhei,

On 18-05-15 12:30, Siarhei Siamashka wrote:
> Hello Hans,
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 17:09:33 +0200
> Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> When porting the allwinner dram init code to u-boot we missed some code
>> setting an extra bit when doing auto dram config.
>
> This "extra bit" actually has a name. Not using named constants
> instead of the magic numbers makes the code rather difficult to
> review. Your persistent refusal to use the nicely available DRAM
> controller documentation may be interpreted as an act of disrespect
> towards the reviewers of your code.
>
> Basically, the A31, A23 and now A33 DRAM initialization code was
> (and still is) a quick and dirty copy/paste hack. And you made exactly
> no effort to make it reviewable, despite having been requested to do
> so multiple times. Yes, it is nice that this code is at least able
> to boot. But this alone can't tell us anything about its quality (after
> all, the Allwinner's 3.4 kernel is able to boot a pretty functional
> Android system too, but it contains a lot of rather questionable or
> outright buggy code under the hood). The DRAM setup is really critical
> for the system reliability and has long lasting effects. The bugs in
> the vast majority of the rest of the U-Boot code are much less
> important because, because they have no chance to cause any troubles
> after the OS takes over. The DRAM initialization is different and the
> "reckless cowboy" approach is simply very dangerous (assuming that
> the end users may want to use their Allwinner based devices for
> something more serious than just toying with them for fun).
>
>> This commits add this bit, fixing dram init not working on the ga10h
>> 10" a33 tablet which I'm bringing up atm.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
>
> We were just lucky that this particular bug was too easy to notice
> and fix. Are you sure that there are no other similar, but more subtle
> problems, which are just more difficult to reproduce and may remain
> unnoticed longer?
>
> Based on a quick search in the mailing list archives, I have already
> provided you with a link to the "spruhn7a.pdf" document 4 (!) times.
> This is the fifth attempt and I'm seriously starting to lose patience.
> No offense intended, but you are probably the most dense person that I
> have ever met :-) There is even an updated C revision of this document:
>      http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruhn7c/spruhn7c.pdf

Last time you provided that link it was when discussing the a23 (or was it the
a31?) dram controller, and now you provide the same link for the a33, this makes
no sense since all 3 dram controllers are actually quite different.

We simply do not have reliable dram controller documentation. Yes there may
be some common ancestry between the ti dram controller you're linking to
and the allwinner ones, but allwinner has been consistently tweaking there
dram controller with each new soc generation, so even if that document is
correct for one generation it certainly will not be for other generations.

>
>> ---
>>   arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c | 2 +-
>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
>> index d03f00d..979bb3c 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
>> +++ b/arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c
>> @@ -195,7 +195,7 @@ static int mctl_train_dram(struct dram_para *para)
>>   		(struct sunxi_mctl_ctl_reg *)SUNXI_DRAM_CTL0_BASE;
>>
>>   	mctl_data_train_cfg(para);
>> -	mctl_set_pir(0x1f3);
>> +	mctl_set_pir(0x5f3);
>>
>>   	return ((readl(&mctl_ctl->pgsr0) >> 20) & 0xff) ? -EIO : 0;
>>   }
>
> Now some questions to Ian Campbell. Are you really happy about
> the non-descriptive commit messages like "Initial u-boot port by
> Vishnu Patekar, major cleanup / rewrite by Hans de Goede" in
>      http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=commit;h=ffc0ae0c70decbe5a910 ?
> And are you also happy with neglecting the documentation

There is NO documentation. What you're doing is the same as giving
someone the manual for a sony video recorder and then telling him
to use that to program recording of his favorite show into a jvc
recorder, yes there are going to be similarities, that does not
make the manual from manufacturer a going to apply to a device
from manufacturer b.

Last time we had this discussion it was trivial to point out various
places where the documentation did not match up, and that was like 3
generations of dram controllers ago ...

With all that said you're welcome to find things which do match and
provide patches to convert magic constants to useful symbolic names.

What you're not welcome to do is trash my work and throw mud at me,
it would greatly help if you were to use a more constructive tone
in future email.

Regards,

Hans

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