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From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@gmail.com>
To: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Arun Raghavan <arun@accosted.net>,
	"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Tanu Kaskinen <tanu.kaskinen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Henningsson <david.henningsson@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: PulseAudio and SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BATCH
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:58:42 +0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <558EE452.4010501@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558EDA4F.5030309@ladisch.de>

27.06.2015 22:15, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>> 15.06.2015 13:03, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>>> So SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BLOCK_TRANSFER is mainly important for rewind handling
>>> and devices with that flag set might need additional headroom since the
>>> data up to one period after the pointer position has already been copied
>>> to the dedicated memory and hence can no longer be overwritten.
>>
>> In kernel sources, sound/pci/hda/hda_controller.c mentions
>> SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BLOCK_TRANSFER. However, sub-period rewinds work fine
>> on this driver, and the avail granularity is something like 64 bytes.
>
> HDA is a very typical PCI controller; if this flag were correct here,
> pretty much _every_ driver would need it.

Well, there are more PCI drivers with this flag than without it. So it 
looks like a "typical error".

aep@aep-haswell /usr/src/linux/sound $ grep -l 
SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BLOCK_TRANSFER `grep -rl SNDRV_PCM_INFO_MMAP_VALID pci` | 
wc -l
48
aep@aep-haswell /usr/src/linux/sound $ grep -L 
SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BLOCK_TRANSFER `grep -rl SNDRV_PCM_INFO_MMAP_VALID pci` | 
wc -l
15


I guess I should write a program that tests sub-period rewinds and post 
it to the list.

> Some (older) HDA controllers have problems with position reporting
> (with workarounds in the drivers), but those problems are with the
> timing, not with the granularity.
>
> As far as I can see, snd-hda-intel should just drop this flag.

-- 
Alexander E. Patrakov

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-27 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-12 12:29 PulseAudio and SNDRV_PCM_INFO_BATCH Arun Raghavan
2015-06-12 12:32 ` Arun Raghavan
2015-06-12 13:43   ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-12 13:57     ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-17  3:04     ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-17  3:38       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-15  3:42   ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-15  8:03 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-15 11:39   ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-15 12:01     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-15 13:34       ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-15 14:16         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-16  2:33           ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-17  8:27             ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-17  9:19               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-06-17 15:09                 ` David Henningsson
2015-06-17 16:48                   ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-18  3:15                     ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-19 11:19                       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-19  1:17                   ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-19 11:32                   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-06-20  3:24                     ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-20  6:17                     ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22  2:35           ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22  6:43             ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-06-22  7:49               ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22  9:41               ` Clemens Ladisch
2015-06-22 11:54                 ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 12:10                   ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-22 12:34                     ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 12:49                       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-22 15:50                         ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 16:28                           ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-24  5:51                             ` Raymond Yau
2015-06-22 22:52                     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2015-06-27 15:28   ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2015-06-27 17:15     ` Clemens Ladisch
2015-06-27 17:58       ` Alexander E. Patrakov [this message]
2015-06-28  2:09         ` Raymond Yau

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