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From: "Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [v4][PATCH 11/19] tools: introduce some new parameters to set rdm policy
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 22:21:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <559A8EF7.2000904@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <559AA41E020000780008CC14@mail.emea.novell.com>

>>> This way of doing things is different than the way we do it with most
>>> other options relating to pci devices (e.g., pci_permissive,
>>> pci_msitranslate, pci_sieze, &c).  All of those options use a "default"
>>> semantic: the domain-wide setting takes effect only if it's not set
>>> locally.  If the syntax looks the same but the semantics is different,
>>> many people will be confused.  If we're going to have the domain-wide
>>> policy override the per-device policy, then the naming should make that
>>> clear; for instance, "override=(strict|relaxed|none)", or
>>> "strict_override=(1|0)".
>>
>> Jan,
>>
>> What about this?
>>
>> This is involving our policy so please take a look at this as well.
>
> I don't think the way things get expressed in the domain config
> directly relates to what the policy is. How to best express things
> in the config I'd really like to leave to the tools maintainers.

Did you remember current definitions are from our previous discussion? 
 From froce/try to strict/relaxed ...  You're always getting involved so 
much so we'd better listen what you would say at this point.

>
>> George,
>>
>> Actually we don't mean the domain-wide policy always override the
>> per-device policy, or the per-device policy always override the
>> per-device policy. Here we just take "strict" as the highest priority
>> when it conflicts in two cases. As I said previously myself may not
>> answer this very correctly but now I can recall or understand that one
>> reason is that different devices can share one RMRR entry, so its
>> possible that these two or more per-device policies are not same. So we
>> need this particular rule which is not same as before. So I still prefer
>> to keep our original implementation.
>>
>> If I'm missing something or wrong, please Jan correct me.
>
> I don't think I fully understand what you try to describe above;
> instead I think the global vs per-device settings should very much
> behave just like others (i.e. fallback to global if there is no per-

If there's no any explicit per-device setting from .cfg, per-device 
always has its own default setting, right?

> device setting). Furthermore, didn't we settle on not allowing

Let's make this clear.

Our current implementation is something like what I described in the 
patch head description,

Default per-device RDM policy is 'strict', while default global RDM 
policy is 'relaxed'. When both policies are specified on a given region, 
'strict' is always preferred.

Any concern to this? Or still let per-device policy override per-domain 
policy like others?


> pass-through of devices sharing RMRRs unless specifically told
> to by the admin (in which case part of what you write above

Yes we can ignore this case in current phase.

> would seem irrelevant to me)?
>

I just think when we're arguing current policy, you may have a good 
suggestion.

Thanks
Tiejun

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-06 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-23  9:57 [v4][PATCH 00/19] Fix RMRR Tiejun Chen
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 01/19] xen: introduce XENMEM_reserved_device_memory_map Tiejun Chen
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 02/19] xen/x86/p2m: introduce set_identity_p2m_entry Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25  9:59   ` Tim Deegan
2015-07-01 15:43   ` George Dunlap
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 03/19] xen/vtd: create RMRR mapping Tiejun Chen
2015-06-23 10:12   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  1:11     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-24  6:48       ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  7:26         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-24  7:33           ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-30 10:40             ` George Dunlap
2015-06-30 11:19               ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 04/19] xen/passthrough: extend hypercall to support rdm reservation policy Tiejun Chen
2015-06-30 11:08   ` George Dunlap
2015-06-30 11:24     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-30 14:20       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01  1:11         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-01 10:02           ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01 10:47             ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-01 14:39               ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01 15:06                 ` Julien Grall
2015-07-02  6:50                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-06 14:55                   ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-07  6:36                     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-06 10:34               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-06 10:56                 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-06 10:56                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-06 11:39                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-01 16:30   ` George Dunlap
2015-07-02  8:49     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-06 14:52       ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-07  6:37         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 05/19] xen: enable XENMEM_memory_map in hvm Tiejun Chen
2015-07-01 16:32   ` George Dunlap
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 06/19] hvmloader: get guest memory map into memory_map[] Tiejun Chen
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 07/19] hvmloader/pci: skip reserved ranges Tiejun Chen
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 08/19] hvmloader/e820: construct guest e820 table Tiejun Chen
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 09/19] tools/libxc: Expose new hypercall xc_reserved_device_memory_map Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25 10:44   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 10/19] tools: extend xc_assign_device() to support rdm reservation policy Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25 10:54   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 11/19] tools: introduce some new parameters to set rdm policy Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25 11:38   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-25 12:13   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-26  8:38     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-26  8:57       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-26  9:36         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-26 12:06           ` Wei Liu
2015-06-29  1:01             ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-30  3:08           ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-30  8:30             ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:38               ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-07 11:36                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25 12:31   ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-30  3:07     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-30 15:54   ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01  1:16     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-01 10:07       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01 10:26         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-01 10:57           ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01 11:16             ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-01 13:29               ` George Dunlap
2015-07-02  1:11                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-02  4:47                   ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-02  9:22                   ` George Dunlap
2015-07-02 10:01                     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-02 10:28                       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-02 11:32                         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-06 13:34                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-06 13:51                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-06 14:21                     ` Chen, Tiejun [this message]
2015-07-06 14:29                       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-06 14:34                         ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-06 14:46                           ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-06 17:16                             ` Wei Liu
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 12/19] tools/libxl: passes rdm reservation policy Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25 11:37   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-25 12:15   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-26  8:53     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-26  9:01       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-26  9:28         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-25 12:33   ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-30  2:14     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-30 15:56   ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01  1:23     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-01 10:22       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01 10:56         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-30 16:11   ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01  1:30     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-07-01 10:31       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-02  9:27         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 13/19] tools/libxc: check to set args.mmio_size before call xc_hvm_build Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25 11:08   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-26  0:56     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-26 12:07       ` Wei Liu
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 14/19] tools/libxl: detect and avoid conflicts with RDM Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25 11:23   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-26  5:45     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-26 12:13       ` Wei Liu
2015-06-29  6:36         ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 15/19] tools: introduce a new parameter to set a predefined rdm boundary Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25 11:27   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-26  6:54     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 16/19] tools/libxl: extend XENMEM_set_memory_map Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25 11:33   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-26  7:13     ` Chen, Tiejun
2015-06-26 12:14       ` Wei Liu
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 17/19] xen/vtd: enable USB device assignment Tiejun Chen
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 18/19] xen/vtd: prevent from assign the device with shared rmrr Tiejun Chen
2015-06-23  9:57 ` [v4][PATCH 19/19] tools: parse to enable new rdm policy parameters Tiejun Chen
2015-06-25 11:35   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-30 16:30   ` George Dunlap
2015-07-01  1:31     ` Chen, Tiejun

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