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* ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning
@ 2015-07-08 15:28 Rolf Anderegg
  2015-07-10 10:14 ` Oleksij Rempel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rolf Anderegg @ 2015-07-08 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-wireless

I am having trouble with the following setup using ath9k_htc (AR9271): I
would like to setup two virtual interfaces on a TP-Link Wireless USB
adapter (TL-WN722N).

ath0: AP (access point/master mode) with hostapd [1], on bridge br0
ath1: STA (station/managed mode) with wpa_supplicant

AP works fine when STA is omitted (or wpa_supplicant is stopped). But
when I try to operate both simultaneously (on the same channel), while
the STA is up and stable, the AP can no longer hold a connection for
longer than a few seconds. The hostapd syslogs either say that
connection is dropped due to inactivity or failure to authenticate.
Also, sometimes a slowpath kernel warning is dumped [2].
Kernel version is 3.12.10-rt15 (more environment info: [3]).

When I try the same setup with a D-Link PCI card (DWL-G520) running with
ath5k, AP and STA work smoothly side by side. So I'm wondering whether
there are any known limitations or pitfalls when using virtual
interfaces with ath9k_htc?

Any hints or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,

Rolf Anderegg




[1] hostapd.conf:
interface=ath0
bridge=br0
driver=nl80211
ssid=MAN301-0099_LAN
hw_mode=g
channel=8
auth_algs=3
wmm_enabled=1
wpa=3
wpa_psk_file=/etc/hostapd.wpa_psk
wpa_key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
wpa_pairwise=TKIP CCMP


[2] kernel warning:
[ 4142.857848] ------------[ cut here ]------------
[ 4142.857917] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 19211 at net/mac80211/agg-tx.c:699 ieee80211_start_tx_ba_cb+0xa5/0xf8 [mac80211]()
[ 4142.857970] Modules linked in: bridge stp llc ipv6 snd_seq_dummy ppdev snd_dice snd_firewire_lib snd_hwdep snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_page_alloc snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi ath9k_htc snd_rawmidi ath9k_common ath9k_hw snd_seq_midi_event ath joydev snd_seq mac80211 microcode snd_seq_device snd_timer cfg80211 rfkill snd serio_raw soundcore lpc_ich mfd_core parport_pc fuse w83627hf hwmon_vid shpchp coretemp lp parport firewire_ohci ata_generic firewire_core pata_acpi r8169 mii
[ 4142.857977] CPU: 0 PID: 19211 Comm: kworker/u8:0 Tainted: G        W    3.12.10-rt15 #2
[ 4142.857980] Hardware name:                  /D510MO, BIOS MOPNV10N.86A.0516.2011.0331.1730 03/31/2011
[ 4142.858051] Workqueue: phy0 ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
[ 4142.858063]  00000000 00000000 f625beb8 c15dba8f 00000000 f625bed0 c102d255 f95cfb0c
[ 4142.858073]  00000000 f2e62534 f27f3ad0 f625bee0 c102d2e1 00000009 00000000 f625bf00
[ 4142.858082]  f95cfb0c f3f48c18 f2e62360 f27f3800 f26bfc80 f3f48c00 f3fb28c0 f625bf28
[ 4142.858084] Call Trace:
[ 4142.858096]  [<c15dba8f>] dump_stack+0x49/0x80
[ 4142.858104]  [<c102d255>] warn_slowpath_common+0x66/0x7d
[ 4142.858146]  [<f95cfb0c>] ? ieee80211_start_tx_ba_cb+0xa5/0xf8 [mac80211]
[ 4142.858152]  [<c102d2e1>] warn_slowpath_null+0x14/0x18
[ 4142.858192]  [<f95cfb0c>] ieee80211_start_tx_ba_cb+0xa5/0xf8 [mac80211]
[ 4142.858234]  [<f95d3183>] ieee80211_iface_work+0x99/0x253 [mac80211]
[ 4142.858243]  [<c1040112>] process_one_work+0x146/0x253
[ 4142.858249]  [<c10405ab>] worker_thread+0x137/0x1d9
[ 4142.858255]  [<c1040474>] ? rescuer_thread+0x22f/0x22f
[ 4142.858260]  [<c1044a1e>] kthread+0x74/0x79
[ 4142.858268]  [<c15e4e77>] ret_from_kernel_thread+0x1b/0x28
[ 4142.858274]  [<c10449aa>] ? __kthread_parkme+0x59/0x59
[ 4142.858289] ---[ end trace 0000000000000003 ]---


[3] environment summary:
:~$ uname -srvmpio
Linux 3.12.10-rt15 #2 SMP PREEMPT RT Tue Jun 9 16:17:55 CEST 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux

:~$ lsusb -s 1:3
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n

:~$ wpa_supplicant -v
wpa_supplicant v2.4

:~$ sudo wpa_cli status
Selected interface 'ath1'
bssid=b8:a3:86:14:d3:ee
freq=2447
ssid=Kakofon
id=0
id_str=ath1
mode=station
pairwise_cipher=CCMP
group_cipher=TKIP
key_mgmt=WPA2-PSK
wpa_state=COMPLETED
ip_address=192.168.1.102
address=c6:4a:00:1b:c2:98

:~$ hostapd -v
hostapd v2.4

:~$ sudo hostapd_cli status
Selected interface 'ath0'
state=ENABLED
phy=phy0
freq=2447
num_sta_non_erp=0
num_sta_no_short_slot_time=0
num_sta_no_short_preamble=0
olbc=0
num_sta_ht_no_gf=0
num_sta_no_ht=0
num_sta_ht_20_mhz=0
num_sta_ht40_intolerant=0
olbc_ht=0
ht_op_mode=0x0
cac_time_seconds=0
cac_time_left_seconds=N/A
channel=8
secondary_channel=0
ieee80211n=0
ieee80211ac=0
vht_oper_chwidth=0
vht_oper_centr_freq_seg0_idx=0
vht_oper_centr_freq_seg1_idx=0
bss[0]=ath0
bssid[0]=c0:4a:00:1b:c2:98
ssid[0]=MAN301-0099_LAN
num_sta[0]=0

:~$ cat /sys/module/ath9k_htc/parameters/nohwcrypt
1

:~$ lsmod | grep ath9k
ath9k_htc              46002  0
ath9k_common            2153  1 ath9k_htc
ath9k_hw              370729  2 ath9k_common,ath9k_htc
ath                    12554  3 ath9k_common,ath9k_htc,ath9k_hw
mac80211              366454  1 ath9k_htc
cfg80211              330733  3 ath,mac80211,ath9k_htc


[4]: pre/post-up commands:
Creating ath0 (preup):
iw dev wlan0 interface add ath0 type __ap

Starting hostapd (postup):
hostapd -B -P /var/run/hostapd.br_ap.pid /etc/hostapd.conf

Creating ath1 (preup):
iw dev wlan0 interface add ath1 type station
ip link set ath1 address ${ALT_HW_ADDR}

Starting wpa_supplicant (postup):
wpa_supplicant -Dnl80211 -P/var/run/wpa_supplicant.pid -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -B -d -iath1



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* Re: ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning
  2015-07-08 15:28 ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning Rolf Anderegg
@ 2015-07-10 10:14 ` Oleksij Rempel
  2015-07-13 11:52   ` Rolf Anderegg
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Oleksij Rempel @ 2015-07-10 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rolf.anderegg, linux-wireless

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Hi,

Am 08.07.2015 um 17:28 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
> I am having trouble with the following setup using ath9k_htc (AR9271): I
> would like to setup two virtual interfaces on a TP-Link Wireless USB
> adapter (TL-WN722N).
> 
> ath0: AP (access point/master mode) with hostapd [1], on bridge br0
> ath1: STA (station/managed mode) with wpa_supplicant
> 
> AP works fine when STA is omitted (or wpa_supplicant is stopped). But
> when I try to operate both simultaneously (on the same channel), while
> the STA is up and stable, the AP can no longer hold a connection for
> longer than a few seconds. The hostapd syslogs either say that
> connection is dropped due to inactivity or failure to authenticate.
> Also, sometimes a slowpath kernel warning is dumped [2].
> Kernel version is 3.12.10-rt15 (more environment info: [3]).
> 
> When I try the same setup with a D-Link PCI card (DWL-G520) running with
> ath5k, AP and STA work smoothly side by side. So I'm wondering whether
> there are any known limitations or pitfalls when using virtual
> interfaces with ath9k_htc?
> 
> Any hints or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> Cheers,

First of all, you are using ancient kernel and firmware. Please update
it. Firmware should be at leas 1.4 and kernel probably 4.1 or later. i'm
not sure which include patch with support of RMW command introduced by
new FW.

Then you can try to disable LED blinking which is stealing your usb
bandwidth.

> 
> 
> [1] hostapd.conf:
> interface=ath0
> bridge=br0
> driver=nl80211
> ssid=MAN301-0099_LAN
> hw_mode=g
> channel=8
> auth_algs=3
> wmm_enabled=1
> wpa=3
> wpa_psk_file=/etc/hostapd.wpa_psk
> wpa_key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
> wpa_pairwise=TKIP CCMP
> 
> 
> [2] kernel warning:
> [ 4142.857848] ------------[ cut here ]------------
> [ 4142.857917] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 19211 at net/mac80211/agg-tx.c:699 ieee80211_start_tx_ba_cb+0xa5/0xf8 [mac80211]()
> [ 4142.857970] Modules linked in: bridge stp llc ipv6 snd_seq_dummy ppdev snd_dice snd_firewire_lib snd_hwdep snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_page_alloc snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi ath9k_htc snd_rawmidi ath9k_common ath9k_hw snd_seq_midi_event ath joydev snd_seq mac80211 microcode snd_seq_device snd_timer cfg80211 rfkill snd serio_raw soundcore lpc_ich mfd_core parport_pc fuse w83627hf hwmon_vid shpchp coretemp lp parport firewire_ohci ata_generic firewire_core pata_acpi r8169 mii
> [ 4142.857977] CPU: 0 PID: 19211 Comm: kworker/u8:0 Tainted: G        W    3.12.10-rt15 #2
> [ 4142.857980] Hardware name:                  /D510MO, BIOS MOPNV10N.86A.0516.2011.0331.1730 03/31/2011
> [ 4142.858051] Workqueue: phy0 ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
> [ 4142.858063]  00000000 00000000 f625beb8 c15dba8f 00000000 f625bed0 c102d255 f95cfb0c
> [ 4142.858073]  00000000 f2e62534 f27f3ad0 f625bee0 c102d2e1 00000009 00000000 f625bf00
> [ 4142.858082]  f95cfb0c f3f48c18 f2e62360 f27f3800 f26bfc80 f3f48c00 f3fb28c0 f625bf28
> [ 4142.858084] Call Trace:
> [ 4142.858096]  [<c15dba8f>] dump_stack+0x49/0x80
> [ 4142.858104]  [<c102d255>] warn_slowpath_common+0x66/0x7d
> [ 4142.858146]  [<f95cfb0c>] ? ieee80211_start_tx_ba_cb+0xa5/0xf8 [mac80211]
> [ 4142.858152]  [<c102d2e1>] warn_slowpath_null+0x14/0x18
> [ 4142.858192]  [<f95cfb0c>] ieee80211_start_tx_ba_cb+0xa5/0xf8 [mac80211]
> [ 4142.858234]  [<f95d3183>] ieee80211_iface_work+0x99/0x253 [mac80211]
> [ 4142.858243]  [<c1040112>] process_one_work+0x146/0x253
> [ 4142.858249]  [<c10405ab>] worker_thread+0x137/0x1d9
> [ 4142.858255]  [<c1040474>] ? rescuer_thread+0x22f/0x22f
> [ 4142.858260]  [<c1044a1e>] kthread+0x74/0x79
> [ 4142.858268]  [<c15e4e77>] ret_from_kernel_thread+0x1b/0x28
> [ 4142.858274]  [<c10449aa>] ? __kthread_parkme+0x59/0x59
> [ 4142.858289] ---[ end trace 0000000000000003 ]---
> 
> 
> [3] environment summary:
> :~$ uname -srvmpio
> Linux 3.12.10-rt15 #2 SMP PREEMPT RT Tue Jun 9 16:17:55 CEST 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
> 
> :~$ lsusb -s 1:3
> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
> 
> :~$ wpa_supplicant -v
> wpa_supplicant v2.4
> 
> :~$ sudo wpa_cli status
> Selected interface 'ath1'
> bssid=b8:a3:86:14:d3:ee
> freq=2447
> ssid=Kakofon
> id=0
> id_str=ath1
> mode=station
> pairwise_cipher=CCMP
> group_cipher=TKIP
> key_mgmt=WPA2-PSK
> wpa_state=COMPLETED
> ip_address=192.168.1.102
> address=c6:4a:00:1b:c2:98
> 
> :~$ hostapd -v
> hostapd v2.4
> 
> :~$ sudo hostapd_cli status
> Selected interface 'ath0'
> state=ENABLED
> phy=phy0
> freq=2447
> num_sta_non_erp=0
> num_sta_no_short_slot_time=0
> num_sta_no_short_preamble=0
> olbc=0
> num_sta_ht_no_gf=0
> num_sta_no_ht=0
> num_sta_ht_20_mhz=0
> num_sta_ht40_intolerant=0
> olbc_ht=0
> ht_op_mode=0x0
> cac_time_seconds=0
> cac_time_left_seconds=N/A
> channel=8
> secondary_channel=0
> ieee80211n=0
> ieee80211ac=0
> vht_oper_chwidth=0
> vht_oper_centr_freq_seg0_idx=0
> vht_oper_centr_freq_seg1_idx=0
> bss[0]=ath0
> bssid[0]=c0:4a:00:1b:c2:98
> ssid[0]=MAN301-0099_LAN
> num_sta[0]=0
> 
> :~$ cat /sys/module/ath9k_htc/parameters/nohwcrypt
> 1
> 
> :~$ lsmod | grep ath9k
> ath9k_htc              46002  0
> ath9k_common            2153  1 ath9k_htc
> ath9k_hw              370729  2 ath9k_common,ath9k_htc
> ath                    12554  3 ath9k_common,ath9k_htc,ath9k_hw
> mac80211              366454  1 ath9k_htc
> cfg80211              330733  3 ath,mac80211,ath9k_htc
> 
> 
> [4]: pre/post-up commands:
> Creating ath0 (preup):
> iw dev wlan0 interface add ath0 type __ap
> 
> Starting hostapd (postup):
> hostapd -B -P /var/run/hostapd.br_ap.pid /etc/hostapd.conf
> 
> Creating ath1 (preup):
> iw dev wlan0 interface add ath1 type station
> ip link set ath1 address ${ALT_HW_ADDR}
> 
> Starting wpa_supplicant (postup):
> wpa_supplicant -Dnl80211 -P/var/run/wpa_supplicant.pid -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -B -d -iath1
> 
> 
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-- 
Regards,
Oleksij


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* Re: ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning
  2015-07-10 10:14 ` Oleksij Rempel
@ 2015-07-13 11:52   ` Rolf Anderegg
  2015-07-16 11:04     ` Oleksij Rempel
  2015-07-16 11:54     ` Oleksij Rempel
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rolf Anderegg @ 2015-07-13 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oleksij Rempel, linux-wireless


> First of all, you are using ancient kernel and firmware. Please update
> it. Firmware should be at leas 1.4 and kernel probably 4.1 or later. i'm
> not sure which include patch with support of RMW command introduced by
> new FW.
>
> Then you can try to disable LED blinking which is stealing your usb
> bandwidth.

Thanks for your suggestions.
You say ancient, I was thinking longterm stable. For various reasons I
require a RT patched kernel, alas this is not yet available for 4.1
kernels. Aside from that I have updated the kernel and firmware as you
propose. Also I have set ath9k_htc's blink=0. The kernel warnings are no
longer occuring, however the AP's connection (which requires several
attempts) is still dropped after a few seconds.
I suspect that there are bandwidth/speed issues when dealing with USB
adapters, but that does not inherently mean that the connection is prone
to drop, right? Doesn't that mean that I am leaking packages somewhere
along the way? What else could I be looking for?

Regards,
Rolf Anderegg

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* Re: ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning
  2015-07-13 11:52   ` Rolf Anderegg
@ 2015-07-16 11:04     ` Oleksij Rempel
  2015-07-16 11:54     ` Oleksij Rempel
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Oleksij Rempel @ 2015-07-16 11:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rolf.anderegg, linux-wireless

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Am 13.07.2015 um 13:52 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
> 
>> First of all, you are using ancient kernel and firmware. Please update
>> it. Firmware should be at leas 1.4 and kernel probably 4.1 or later. i'm
>> not sure which include patch with support of RMW command introduced by
>> new FW.
>>
>> Then you can try to disable LED blinking which is stealing your usb
>> bandwidth.
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> You say ancient, I was thinking longterm stable. For various reasons I
> require a RT patched kernel, alas this is not yet available for 4.1
> kernels. Aside from that I have updated the kernel and firmware as you
> propose. Also I have set ath9k_htc's blink=0. The kernel warnings are no
> longer occuring, however the AP's connection (which requires several
> attempts) is still dropped after a few seconds.
> I suspect that there are bandwidth/speed issues when dealing with USB
> adapters, but that does not inherently mean that the connection is prone
> to drop, right? Doesn't that mean that I am leaking packages somewhere
> along the way? What else could I be looking for?

The packages can drop if you will do channel scan. STA mode need some
seconds to complete channel scan. It means AP will be all the time
unavailable.

> Regards,
> Rolf Anderegg
> 


-- 
Regards,
Oleksij


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* Re: ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning
  2015-07-13 11:52   ` Rolf Anderegg
  2015-07-16 11:04     ` Oleksij Rempel
@ 2015-07-16 11:54     ` Oleksij Rempel
  2015-07-22 16:37       ` Rolf Anderegg
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Oleksij Rempel @ 2015-07-16 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rolf.anderegg, linux-wireless

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Am 13.07.2015 um 13:52 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
> 
>> First of all, you are using ancient kernel and firmware. Please update
>> it. Firmware should be at leas 1.4 and kernel probably 4.1 or later. i'm
>> not sure which include patch with support of RMW command introduced by
>> new FW.
>>
>> Then you can try to disable LED blinking which is stealing your usb
>> bandwidth.
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> You say ancient, I was thinking longterm stable. For various reasons I
> require a RT patched kernel, alas this is not yet available for 4.1
> kernels. Aside from that I have updated the kernel and firmware as you
> propose. Also I have set ath9k_htc's blink=0. The kernel warnings are no
> longer occuring, however the AP's connection (which requires several
> attempts) is still dropped after a few seconds.
> I suspect that there are bandwidth/speed issues when dealing with USB
> adapters, but that does not inherently mean that the connection is prone
> to drop, right? Doesn't that mean that I am leaking packages somewhere
> along the way? What else could I be looking for?

The packages can drop if you will do channel scan. STA mode need some
seconds to complete channel scan. It means AP will be all the time
unavailable.

> Regards,
> Rolf Anderegg
> 


-- 
Regards,
Oleksij



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* Re: ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning
  2015-07-16 11:54     ` Oleksij Rempel
@ 2015-07-22 16:37       ` Rolf Anderegg
  2015-07-22 17:16         ` Oleksij Rempel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rolf Anderegg @ 2015-07-22 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oleksij Rempel, linux-wireless


On 16/07/15 13:54, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> Am 13.07.2015 um 13:52 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
>>
>> I suspect that there are bandwidth/speed issues when dealing with USB
>> adapters, but that does not inherently mean that the connection is prone
>> to drop, right? Doesn't that mean that I am leaking packages somewhere
>> along the way? What else could I be looking for?
> 
> The packages can drop if you will do channel scan. STA mode need some
> seconds to complete channel scan. It means AP will be all the time
> unavailable.

Ok, that may be. Then again why am I not experiencing the same
connection drop on my ath5k setup? Because the channel scan is more
likely to be completed in due time?

Regards,
Rolf Anderegg

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* Re: ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning
  2015-07-22 16:37       ` Rolf Anderegg
@ 2015-07-22 17:16         ` Oleksij Rempel
  2015-07-23  8:08           ` wim torfs
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Oleksij Rempel @ 2015-07-22 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rolf.anderegg, linux-wireless

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Am 22.07.2015 um 18:37 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
> 
> On 16/07/15 13:54, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
>> Am 13.07.2015 um 13:52 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
>>>
>>> I suspect that there are bandwidth/speed issues when dealing with USB
>>> adapters, but that does not inherently mean that the connection is prone
>>> to drop, right? Doesn't that mean that I am leaking packages somewhere
>>> along the way? What else could I be looking for?
>>
>> The packages can drop if you will do channel scan. STA mode need some
>> seconds to complete channel scan. It means AP will be all the time
>> unavailable.
> 
> Ok, that may be. Then again why am I not experiencing the same
> connection drop on my ath5k setup? Because the channel scan is more
> likely to be completed in due time?

Yes, channel scantime on usb device is match longer then on pci.

-- 
Regards,
Oleksij


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* Re: ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning
  2015-07-22 17:16         ` Oleksij Rempel
@ 2015-07-23  8:08           ` wim torfs
  2015-07-23 21:06             ` Oleksij Rempel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: wim torfs @ 2015-07-23  8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oleksij Rempel; +Cc: rolf.anderegg, linux-wireless



On 07/22/2015 07:16 PM, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> Am 22.07.2015 um 18:37 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
>>
>> On 16/07/15 13:54, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
>>> Am 13.07.2015 um 13:52 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that there are bandwidth/speed issues when dealing with USB
>>>> adapters, but that does not inherently mean that the connection is prone
>>>> to drop, right? Doesn't that mean that I am leaking packages somewhere
>>>> along the way? What else could I be looking for?
>>>
>>> The packages can drop if you will do channel scan. STA mode need some
>>> seconds to complete channel scan. It means AP will be all the time
>>> unavailable.
>>
>> Ok, that may be. Then again why am I not experiencing the same
>> connection drop on my ath5k setup? Because the channel scan is more
>> likely to be completed in due time?
>
> Yes, channel scantime on usb device is match longer then on pci.
>

May I ask for the reason it takes a longer time to complete the scanning 
on a USB device compared to a PCI device? I assume the internals of an 
ath9k PCI device is similar as that of an ath9k_htc USB device, so is it 
purely the bus speed that affects this time? Or is the USB device a 
smaller version of the chipset on the PCI device and therefore with a 
lower speed due to power concerns?

If it is due to the bus speed, would it be possible to decouple the 
scanning process from the bus, that is, I assume that the hardware 
performs all the necessary channel switching and channel sensing, so why 
not allow the hardware to gather such information and transfer the 
results in a single burst to the host over the USB bus? Or is the 
channel switching controlled by the host and it takes a lot of time due 
to the duration of transmitting the channel switching commands to the 
USB device?

Thanks,

Wim.


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* Re: ath9k_htc: virtual interfaces, AP connection drop & kernel warning
  2015-07-23  8:08           ` wim torfs
@ 2015-07-23 21:06             ` Oleksij Rempel
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Oleksij Rempel @ 2015-07-23 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: wim torfs; +Cc: rolf.anderegg, linux-wireless

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Am 23.07.2015 um 10:08 schrieb wim torfs:
> 
> 
> On 07/22/2015 07:16 PM, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
>> Am 22.07.2015 um 18:37 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
>>>
>>> On 16/07/15 13:54, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
>>>> Am 13.07.2015 um 13:52 schrieb Rolf Anderegg:
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that there are bandwidth/speed issues when dealing with USB
>>>>> adapters, but that does not inherently mean that the connection is
>>>>> prone
>>>>> to drop, right? Doesn't that mean that I am leaking packages somewhere
>>>>> along the way? What else could I be looking for?
>>>>
>>>> The packages can drop if you will do channel scan. STA mode need some
>>>> seconds to complete channel scan. It means AP will be all the time
>>>> unavailable.
>>>
>>> Ok, that may be. Then again why am I not experiencing the same
>>> connection drop on my ath5k setup? Because the channel scan is more
>>> likely to be completed in due time?
>>
>> Yes, channel scantime on usb device is match longer then on pci.
>>
> 
> May I ask for the reason it takes a longer time to complete the scanning
> on a USB device compared to a PCI device? I assume the internals of an
> ath9k PCI device is similar as that of an ath9k_htc USB device, so is it
> purely the bus speed that affects this time? Or is the USB device a
> smaller version of the chipset on the PCI device and therefore with a
> lower speed due to power concerns?
> 
> If it is due to the bus speed, would it be possible to decouple the
> scanning process from the bus, that is, I assume that the hardware
> performs all the necessary channel switching and channel sensing, so why
> not allow the hardware to gather such information and transfer the
> results in a single burst to the host over the USB bus? Or is the
> channel switching controlled by the host and it takes a lot of time due
> to the duration of transmitting the channel switching commands to the
> USB device?

Well, it is about development time vs scan time: do as match as possible
with one code base or develop two different code bases.

-- 
Regards,
Oleksij


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