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* [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20 ` Daniel Cashman
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From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) provides a barrier to exploitation of user-space processes in the presence of security vulnerabilities by making it more difficult to find desired code/data which could help an attack. This is done by adding a random offset to the location of regions in the process address space, with a greater range of potential offset values corresponding to better protection/a larger search-space for brute force, but also to greater potential for fragmentation.

The offset added to the mmap_base address, which provides the basis for the majority of the mappings for a process, is set once on process exec in arch_pick_mmap_layout() and is done via hard-coded per-arch values, which reflect, hopefully, the best compromise for all systems. The trade-off between increased entropy in the offset value generation and the corresponding increased variability in address space fragmentation is not absolute, however, and some platforms may tolerate higher amounts of entropy. This patch introduces both new Kconfig values and a sysctl interface which may be used to change the amount of entropy used for offset generation on a system.

The direct motivation for this change was in response to the libstagefright vulnerabilities that affected Android, specifically to information provided by Google's project zero at:

http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/09/stagefrightened.html

The attack presented therein, by Google's project zero, specifically targeted the limited randomness used to generate the offset added to the mmap_base address in order to craft a brute-force-based attack. Concretely, the attack was against the mediaserver process, which was limited to respawning every 5 seconds, on an arm device. The hard-coded 8 bits used resulted in an average expected success rate of defeating the mmap ASLR after just over 10 minutes (128 tries at 5 seconds a piece). With this patch, and an accompanying increase in the entropy value to 16 bits, the same attack would take an average expected time of over 45 hours (32768 tries), which makes it both less feasible and more likely to be noticed.

The introduced Kconfig and sysctl options are limited by per-arch minimum and maximum values, the minimum of which was chosen to match the current hard-coded value and the maximum of which was chosen so as to give the greatest flexibility without generating an invalid mmap_base address, generally a 3-4 bits less than the number of bits in the user-space accessible virtual address space.

When decided whether or not to change the default value, a system developer should consider that mmap_base address could be placed anywhere up to 2^(value) bits away from the non-randomized location, which would introduce variable-sized areas above and below the mmap_base address such that the maximum vm_area_struct size may be reduced, preventing very large allocations.

Changes in v3:
* moved sysctl from /proc/sys/kernel to /proc/sys/vm
* added to arch/x86 (both 32 and 64 bit)
* added to arch/arm64
* added ability for arch to specify default value in between max - min

dcashman (4):
  mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  arm: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  x86: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.

 Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/Kconfig                | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/arm/Kconfig            | 10 +++++++
 arch/arm/mm/mmap.c          |  3 +--
 arch/arm64/Kconfig          | 23 ++++++++++++++++
 arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c        |  6 +++--
 arch/x86/Kconfig            | 16 ++++++++++++
 arch/x86/mm/mmap.c          | 12 ++++-----
 include/linux/mm.h          | 11 ++++++++
 kernel/sysctl.c             | 22 ++++++++++++++++
 mm/mmap.c                   | 12 +++++++++
 11 files changed, 198 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)

-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0


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* [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20 ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) provides a barrier to exploitation of user-space processes in the presence of security vulnerabilities by making it more difficult to find desired code/data which could help an attack. This is done by adding a random offset to the location of regions in the process address space, with a greater range of potential offset values corresponding to better protection/a larger search-space for brute force, but also to greater potential for fragmentation.

The offset added to the mmap_base address, which provides the basis for the majority of the mappings for a process, is set once on process exec in arch_pick_mmap_layout() and is done via hard-coded per-arch values, which reflect, hopefully, the best compromise for all systems. The trade-off between increased entropy in the offset value generation and the corresponding increased variability in address space fragmentation is not absolute, however, and some platforms may tolerate higher amounts of entropy. This patch introduces both new Kconfig values and a sysctl interface which may be used to change the amount of entropy used for offset generation on a system.

The direct motivation for this change was in response to the libstagefright vulnerabilities that affected Android, specifically to information provided by Google's project zero at:

http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/09/stagefrightened.html

The attack presented therein, by Google's project zero, specifically targeted the limited randomness used to generate the offset added to the mmap_base address in order to craft a brute-force-based attack. Concretely, the attack was against the mediaserver process, which was limited to respawning every 5 seconds, on an arm device. The hard-coded 8 bits used resulted in an average expected success rate of defeating the mmap ASLR after just over 10 minutes (128 tries at 5 seconds a piece). With this patch, and an accompanying increase in the entropy value to 16 bits, the same attack would take an average expected time of over 45 hours (32768 tries), which makes it both less feasible and more likely to be noticed.

The introduced Kconfig and sysctl options are limited by per-arch minimum and maximum values, the minimum of which was chosen to match the current hard-coded value and the maximum of which was chosen so as to give the greatest flexibility without generating an invalid mmap_base address, generally a 3-4 bits less than the number of bits in the user-space accessible virtual address space.

When decided whether or not to change the default value, a system developer should consider that mmap_base address could be placed anywhere up to 2^(value) bits away from the non-randomized location, which would introduce variable-sized areas above and below the mmap_base address such that the maximum vm_area_struct size may be reduced, preventing very large allocations.

Changes in v3:
* moved sysctl from /proc/sys/kernel to /proc/sys/vm
* added to arch/x86 (both 32 and 64 bit)
* added to arch/arm64
* added ability for arch to specify default value in between max - min

dcashman (4):
  mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  arm: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  x86: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.

 Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/Kconfig                | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/arm/Kconfig            | 10 +++++++
 arch/arm/mm/mmap.c          |  3 +--
 arch/arm64/Kconfig          | 23 ++++++++++++++++
 arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c        |  6 +++--
 arch/x86/Kconfig            | 16 ++++++++++++
 arch/x86/mm/mmap.c          | 12 ++++-----
 include/linux/mm.h          | 11 ++++++++
 kernel/sysctl.c             | 22 ++++++++++++++++
 mm/mmap.c                   | 12 +++++++++
 11 files changed, 198 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)

-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20 ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) provides a barrier to exploitation of user-space processes in the presence of security vulnerabilities by making it more difficult to find desired code/data which could help an attack. This is done by adding a random offset to the location of regions in the process address space, with a greater range of potential offset values corresponding to better protection/a larger search-space for brute force, but also to greater potential for fragmentation.

The offset added to the mmap_base address, which provides the basis for the majority of the mappings for a process, is set once on process exec in arch_pick_mmap_layout() and is done via hard-coded per-arch values, which reflect, hopefully, the best compromise for all systems. The trade-off between increased entropy in the offset value generation and the corresponding increased variability in address space fragmentation is not absolute, however, and some platforms may tolerate higher amounts of entropy. This patch introduces both new Kconfig values and a sysctl interface which may be used to change the amount of entropy used for offset generation on a system.

The direct motivation for this change was in response to the libstagefright vulnerabilities that affected Android, specifically to information provided by Google's project zero at:

http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/09/stagefrightened.html

The attack presented therein, by Google's project zero, specifically targeted the limited randomness used to generate the offset added to the mmap_base address in order to craft a brute-force-based attack. Concretely, the attack was against the mediaserver process, which was limited to respawning every 5 seconds, on an arm device. The hard-coded 8 bits used resulted in an average expected success rate of defeating the mmap ASLR after just over 10 minutes (128 tries at 5 seconds a piece). With this patch, and an accompanying increase in the entropy value to 16 bits, the same attack would take an average expected time of over 45 hours (32768 tries), which makes it both less feasible and more likely to be noticed.

The introduced Kconfig and sysctl options are limited by per-arch minimum and maximum values, the minimum of which was chosen to match the current hard-coded value and the maximum of which was chosen so as to give the greatest flexibility without generating an invalid mmap_base address, generally a 3-4 bits less than the number of bits in the user-space accessible virtual address space.

When decided whether or not to change the default value, a system developer should consider that mmap_base address could be placed anywhere up to 2^(value) bits away from the non-randomized location, which would introduce variable-sized areas above and below the mmap_base address such that the maximum vm_area_struct size may be reduced, preventing very large allocations.

Changes in v3:
* moved sysctl from /proc/sys/kernel to /proc/sys/vm
* added to arch/x86 (both 32 and 64 bit)
* added to arch/arm64
* added ability for arch to specify default value in between max - min

dcashman (4):
  mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  arm: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  x86: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.

 Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/Kconfig                | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/arm/Kconfig            | 10 +++++++
 arch/arm/mm/mmap.c          |  3 +--
 arch/arm64/Kconfig          | 23 ++++++++++++++++
 arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c        |  6 +++--
 arch/x86/Kconfig            | 16 ++++++++++++
 arch/x86/mm/mmap.c          | 12 ++++-----
 include/linux/mm.h          | 11 ++++++++
 kernel/sysctl.c             | 22 ++++++++++++++++
 mm/mmap.c                   | 12 +++++++++
 11 files changed, 198 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)

-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  2015-11-18 23:20 ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-18 23:20   ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

ASLR currently only uses 8 bits to generate the random offset for the
mmap base address on 32 bit architectures. This value was chosen to
prevent a poorly chosen value from dividing the address space in such
a way as to prevent large allocations. This may not be an issue on all
platforms. Allow the specification of a minimum number of bits so that
platforms desiring greater ASLR protection may determine where to place
the trade-off.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/Kconfig                | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 include/linux/mm.h          | 11 ++++++++
 kernel/sysctl.c             | 22 ++++++++++++++++
 mm/mmap.c                   | 12 +++++++++
 5 files changed, 138 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt b/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
index f72370b..d77a81a 100644
--- a/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
+++ b/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
@@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ Currently, these files are in /proc/sys/vm:
 - min_slab_ratio
 - min_unmapped_ratio
 - mmap_min_addr
+- mmap_rnd_bits
+- mmap_rnd_compat_bits
 - nr_hugepages
 - nr_overcommit_hugepages
 - nr_trim_pages         (only if CONFIG_MMU=n)
@@ -485,6 +487,33 @@ against future potential kernel bugs.
 
 ==============================================================
 
+mmap_rnd_bits:
+
+This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+resulting from mmap allocations on architectures which support
+tuning address space randomization.  This value will be bounded
+by the architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
+
+This value can be changed after boot using the
+/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_bits tunable
+
+==============================================================
+
+mmap_rnd_compat_bits:
+
+This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+resulting from mmap allocations for applications run in
+compatibility mode on architectures which support tuning address
+space randomization.  This value will be bounded by the
+architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
+
+This value can be changed after boot using the
+/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_compat_bits tunable
+
+==============================================================
+
 nr_hugepages
 
 Change the minimum size of the hugepage pool.
diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
index 4e949e5..141823f 100644
--- a/arch/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/Kconfig
@@ -511,6 +511,70 @@ config ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE
 	  - arch_mmap_rnd()
 	  - arch_randomize_brk()
 
+config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	bool
+	help
+	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports setting a variable
+	  number of bits for use in establishing the base address for mmap
+	  allocations and provides values for both:
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address" if EXPERT
+	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT if ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	help
+	  This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+	  determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+	  resulting from mmap allocations. This value will be bounded
+	  by the architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
+
+	  This value can be changed after boot using the
+	  /proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_bits tunable
+
+config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	bool
+	help
+	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports running applications
+	  in compatibility mode, supports setting a variable number of bits for
+	  use in establishing the base address for mmap allocations, and
+	  provides values for both:
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address for compatible applications" if EXPERT
+	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	help
+	  This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+	  determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+	  resulting from mmap allocations for compatible applications This
+	  value will be bounded by the architecture's minimum and maximum
+	  supported values.
+
+	  This value can be changed after boot using the
+	  /proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_compat_bits tunable
+
 config HAVE_COPY_THREAD_TLS
 	bool
 	help
diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
index 00bad77..7d39828 100644
--- a/include/linux/mm.h
+++ b/include/linux/mm.h
@@ -51,6 +51,17 @@ extern int sysctl_legacy_va_layout;
 #define sysctl_legacy_va_layout 0
 #endif
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+extern int mmap_rnd_bits_min;
+extern int mmap_rnd_bits_max;
+extern int mmap_rnd_bits;
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min;
+extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max;
+extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits;
+#endif
+
 #include <asm/page.h>
 #include <asm/pgtable.h>
 #include <asm/processor.h>
diff --git a/kernel/sysctl.c b/kernel/sysctl.c
index dc6858d..40e5de6 100644
--- a/kernel/sysctl.c
+++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
@@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
 		.mode		= 0644,
 		.proc_handler	= proc_doulongvec_minmax,
 	},
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	{
+		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_bits",
+		.data		= &mmap_rnd_bits,
+		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
+		.mode		= 0644,
+		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
+		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
+		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
+	},
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	{
+		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
+		.data		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
+		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
+		.mode		= 0644,
+		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
+		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
+		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
+	},
+#endif
 	{ }
 };
 
diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
index 2ce04a6..aa49841 100644
--- a/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/mm/mmap.c
@@ -58,6 +58,18 @@
 #define arch_rebalance_pgtables(addr, len)		(addr)
 #endif
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
+int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
+int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
+int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
+int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
+#endif
+
+
 static void unmap_region(struct mm_struct *mm,
 		struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_area_struct *prev,
 		unsigned long start, unsigned long end);
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0


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* [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20   ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

ASLR currently only uses 8 bits to generate the random offset for the
mmap base address on 32 bit architectures. This value was chosen to
prevent a poorly chosen value from dividing the address space in such
a way as to prevent large allocations. This may not be an issue on all
platforms. Allow the specification of a minimum number of bits so that
platforms desiring greater ASLR protection may determine where to place
the trade-off.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/Kconfig                | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 include/linux/mm.h          | 11 ++++++++
 kernel/sysctl.c             | 22 ++++++++++++++++
 mm/mmap.c                   | 12 +++++++++
 5 files changed, 138 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt b/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
index f72370b..d77a81a 100644
--- a/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
+++ b/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
@@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ Currently, these files are in /proc/sys/vm:
 - min_slab_ratio
 - min_unmapped_ratio
 - mmap_min_addr
+- mmap_rnd_bits
+- mmap_rnd_compat_bits
 - nr_hugepages
 - nr_overcommit_hugepages
 - nr_trim_pages         (only if CONFIG_MMU=n)
@@ -485,6 +487,33 @@ against future potential kernel bugs.
 
 ==============================================================
 
+mmap_rnd_bits:
+
+This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+resulting from mmap allocations on architectures which support
+tuning address space randomization.  This value will be bounded
+by the architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
+
+This value can be changed after boot using the
+/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_bits tunable
+
+==============================================================
+
+mmap_rnd_compat_bits:
+
+This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+resulting from mmap allocations for applications run in
+compatibility mode on architectures which support tuning address
+space randomization.  This value will be bounded by the
+architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
+
+This value can be changed after boot using the
+/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_compat_bits tunable
+
+==============================================================
+
 nr_hugepages
 
 Change the minimum size of the hugepage pool.
diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
index 4e949e5..141823f 100644
--- a/arch/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/Kconfig
@@ -511,6 +511,70 @@ config ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE
 	  - arch_mmap_rnd()
 	  - arch_randomize_brk()
 
+config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	bool
+	help
+	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports setting a variable
+	  number of bits for use in establishing the base address for mmap
+	  allocations and provides values for both:
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address" if EXPERT
+	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT if ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	help
+	  This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+	  determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+	  resulting from mmap allocations. This value will be bounded
+	  by the architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
+
+	  This value can be changed after boot using the
+	  /proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_bits tunable
+
+config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	bool
+	help
+	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports running applications
+	  in compatibility mode, supports setting a variable number of bits for
+	  use in establishing the base address for mmap allocations, and
+	  provides values for both:
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address for compatible applications" if EXPERT
+	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	help
+	  This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+	  determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+	  resulting from mmap allocations for compatible applications This
+	  value will be bounded by the architecture's minimum and maximum
+	  supported values.
+
+	  This value can be changed after boot using the
+	  /proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_compat_bits tunable
+
 config HAVE_COPY_THREAD_TLS
 	bool
 	help
diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
index 00bad77..7d39828 100644
--- a/include/linux/mm.h
+++ b/include/linux/mm.h
@@ -51,6 +51,17 @@ extern int sysctl_legacy_va_layout;
 #define sysctl_legacy_va_layout 0
 #endif
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+extern int mmap_rnd_bits_min;
+extern int mmap_rnd_bits_max;
+extern int mmap_rnd_bits;
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min;
+extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max;
+extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits;
+#endif
+
 #include <asm/page.h>
 #include <asm/pgtable.h>
 #include <asm/processor.h>
diff --git a/kernel/sysctl.c b/kernel/sysctl.c
index dc6858d..40e5de6 100644
--- a/kernel/sysctl.c
+++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
@@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
 		.mode		= 0644,
 		.proc_handler	= proc_doulongvec_minmax,
 	},
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	{
+		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_bits",
+		.data		= &mmap_rnd_bits,
+		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
+		.mode		= 0644,
+		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
+		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
+		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
+	},
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	{
+		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
+		.data		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
+		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
+		.mode		= 0644,
+		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
+		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
+		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
+	},
+#endif
 	{ }
 };
 
diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
index 2ce04a6..aa49841 100644
--- a/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/mm/mmap.c
@@ -58,6 +58,18 @@
 #define arch_rebalance_pgtables(addr, len)		(addr)
 #endif
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
+int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
+int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
+int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
+int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
+#endif
+
+
 static void unmap_region(struct mm_struct *mm,
 		struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_area_struct *prev,
 		unsigned long start, unsigned long end);
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20   ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

ASLR currently only uses 8 bits to generate the random offset for the
mmap base address on 32 bit architectures. This value was chosen to
prevent a poorly chosen value from dividing the address space in such
a way as to prevent large allocations. This may not be an issue on all
platforms. Allow the specification of a minimum number of bits so that
platforms desiring greater ASLR protection may determine where to place
the trade-off.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/Kconfig                | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 include/linux/mm.h          | 11 ++++++++
 kernel/sysctl.c             | 22 ++++++++++++++++
 mm/mmap.c                   | 12 +++++++++
 5 files changed, 138 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt b/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
index f72370b..d77a81a 100644
--- a/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
+++ b/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
@@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ Currently, these files are in /proc/sys/vm:
 - min_slab_ratio
 - min_unmapped_ratio
 - mmap_min_addr
+- mmap_rnd_bits
+- mmap_rnd_compat_bits
 - nr_hugepages
 - nr_overcommit_hugepages
 - nr_trim_pages         (only if CONFIG_MMU=n)
@@ -485,6 +487,33 @@ against future potential kernel bugs.
 
 ==============================================================
 
+mmap_rnd_bits:
+
+This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+resulting from mmap allocations on architectures which support
+tuning address space randomization.  This value will be bounded
+by the architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
+
+This value can be changed after boot using the
+/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_bits tunable
+
+==============================================================
+
+mmap_rnd_compat_bits:
+
+This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+resulting from mmap allocations for applications run in
+compatibility mode on architectures which support tuning address
+space randomization.  This value will be bounded by the
+architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
+
+This value can be changed after boot using the
+/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_compat_bits tunable
+
+==============================================================
+
 nr_hugepages
 
 Change the minimum size of the hugepage pool.
diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
index 4e949e5..141823f 100644
--- a/arch/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/Kconfig
@@ -511,6 +511,70 @@ config ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE
 	  - arch_mmap_rnd()
 	  - arch_randomize_brk()
 
+config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	bool
+	help
+	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports setting a variable
+	  number of bits for use in establishing the base address for mmap
+	  allocations and provides values for both:
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address" if EXPERT
+	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT if ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	help
+	  This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+	  determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+	  resulting from mmap allocations. This value will be bounded
+	  by the architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
+
+	  This value can be changed after boot using the
+	  /proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_bits tunable
+
+config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	bool
+	help
+	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports running applications
+	  in compatibility mode, supports setting a variable number of bits for
+	  use in establishing the base address for mmap allocations, and
+	  provides values for both:
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	int
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address for compatible applications" if EXPERT
+	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	help
+	  This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
+	  determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
+	  resulting from mmap allocations for compatible applications This
+	  value will be bounded by the architecture's minimum and maximum
+	  supported values.
+
+	  This value can be changed after boot using the
+	  /proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_compat_bits tunable
+
 config HAVE_COPY_THREAD_TLS
 	bool
 	help
diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
index 00bad77..7d39828 100644
--- a/include/linux/mm.h
+++ b/include/linux/mm.h
@@ -51,6 +51,17 @@ extern int sysctl_legacy_va_layout;
 #define sysctl_legacy_va_layout 0
 #endif
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+extern int mmap_rnd_bits_min;
+extern int mmap_rnd_bits_max;
+extern int mmap_rnd_bits;
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min;
+extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max;
+extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits;
+#endif
+
 #include <asm/page.h>
 #include <asm/pgtable.h>
 #include <asm/processor.h>
diff --git a/kernel/sysctl.c b/kernel/sysctl.c
index dc6858d..40e5de6 100644
--- a/kernel/sysctl.c
+++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
@@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
 		.mode		= 0644,
 		.proc_handler	= proc_doulongvec_minmax,
 	},
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	{
+		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_bits",
+		.data		= &mmap_rnd_bits,
+		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
+		.mode		= 0644,
+		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
+		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
+		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
+	},
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+	{
+		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
+		.data		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
+		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
+		.mode		= 0644,
+		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
+		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
+		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
+	},
+#endif
 	{ }
 };
 
diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
index 2ce04a6..aa49841 100644
--- a/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/mm/mmap.c
@@ -58,6 +58,18 @@
 #define arch_rebalance_pgtables(addr, len)		(addr)
 #endif
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
+int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
+int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
+int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
+int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
+int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
+#endif
+
+
 static void unmap_region(struct mm_struct *mm,
 		struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_area_struct *prev,
 		unsigned long start, unsigned long end);
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* [PATCH v3 2/4] arm: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-18 23:20   ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-18 23:20     ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

arm: arch_mmap_rnd() uses a hard-code value of 8 to generate the
random offset for the mmap base address.  This value represents a
compromise between increased ASLR effectiveness and avoiding
address-space fragmentation. Replace it with a Kconfig option, which
is sensibly bounded, so that platform developers may choose where to
place this compromise. Keep 8 as the minimum acceptable value.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 arch/arm/Kconfig   | 10 ++++++++++
 arch/arm/mm/mmap.c |  3 +--
 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm/Kconfig b/arch/arm/Kconfig
index 0365cbb..ca2e43a 100644
--- a/arch/arm/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/Kconfig
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ config ARM
 	select HAVE_ARCH_BITREVERSE if (CPU_32v7M || CPU_32v7) && !CPU_32v6
 	select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL if !XIP_KERNEL && !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB if !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER if (AEABI && !OABI_COMPAT)
 	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
 	select HAVE_BPF_JIT
@@ -306,6 +307,15 @@ config MMU
 	  Select if you want MMU-based virtualised addressing space
 	  support by paged memory management. If unsure, say 'Y'.
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	default 8
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	default 14 if MMU && PAGE_OFFSET=0x40000000
+	default 15 if MMU && PAGE_OFFSET=0x80000000
+	default 16 if MMU
+	default 8
+
 #
 # The "ARM system type" choice list is ordered alphabetically by option
 # text.  Please add new entries in the option alphabetic order.
diff --git a/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c b/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
index 407dc78..c938693 100644
--- a/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
@@ -173,8 +173,7 @@ unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
 	unsigned long rnd;
 
-	/* 8 bits of randomness in 20 address space bits */
-	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << 8);
+	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
 
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0


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* [PATCH v3 2/4] arm: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20     ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

arm: arch_mmap_rnd() uses a hard-code value of 8 to generate the
random offset for the mmap base address.  This value represents a
compromise between increased ASLR effectiveness and avoiding
address-space fragmentation. Replace it with a Kconfig option, which
is sensibly bounded, so that platform developers may choose where to
place this compromise. Keep 8 as the minimum acceptable value.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 arch/arm/Kconfig   | 10 ++++++++++
 arch/arm/mm/mmap.c |  3 +--
 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm/Kconfig b/arch/arm/Kconfig
index 0365cbb..ca2e43a 100644
--- a/arch/arm/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/Kconfig
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ config ARM
 	select HAVE_ARCH_BITREVERSE if (CPU_32v7M || CPU_32v7) && !CPU_32v6
 	select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL if !XIP_KERNEL && !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB if !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER if (AEABI && !OABI_COMPAT)
 	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
 	select HAVE_BPF_JIT
@@ -306,6 +307,15 @@ config MMU
 	  Select if you want MMU-based virtualised addressing space
 	  support by paged memory management. If unsure, say 'Y'.
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	default 8
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	default 14 if MMU && PAGE_OFFSET=0x40000000
+	default 15 if MMU && PAGE_OFFSET=0x80000000
+	default 16 if MMU
+	default 8
+
 #
 # The "ARM system type" choice list is ordered alphabetically by option
 # text.  Please add new entries in the option alphabetic order.
diff --git a/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c b/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
index 407dc78..c938693 100644
--- a/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
@@ -173,8 +173,7 @@ unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
 	unsigned long rnd;
 
-	/* 8 bits of randomness in 20 address space bits */
-	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << 8);
+	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
 
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* [PATCH v3 2/4] arm: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20     ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

arm: arch_mmap_rnd() uses a hard-code value of 8 to generate the
random offset for the mmap base address.  This value represents a
compromise between increased ASLR effectiveness and avoiding
address-space fragmentation. Replace it with a Kconfig option, which
is sensibly bounded, so that platform developers may choose where to
place this compromise. Keep 8 as the minimum acceptable value.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 arch/arm/Kconfig   | 10 ++++++++++
 arch/arm/mm/mmap.c |  3 +--
 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm/Kconfig b/arch/arm/Kconfig
index 0365cbb..ca2e43a 100644
--- a/arch/arm/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm/Kconfig
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ config ARM
 	select HAVE_ARCH_BITREVERSE if (CPU_32v7M || CPU_32v7) && !CPU_32v6
 	select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL if !XIP_KERNEL && !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB if !CPU_ENDIAN_BE32
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER if (AEABI && !OABI_COMPAT)
 	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
 	select HAVE_BPF_JIT
@@ -306,6 +307,15 @@ config MMU
 	  Select if you want MMU-based virtualised addressing space
 	  support by paged memory management. If unsure, say 'Y'.
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	default 8
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	default 14 if MMU && PAGE_OFFSET=0x40000000
+	default 15 if MMU && PAGE_OFFSET=0x80000000
+	default 16 if MMU
+	default 8
+
 #
 # The "ARM system type" choice list is ordered alphabetically by option
 # text.  Please add new entries in the option alphabetic order.
diff --git a/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c b/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
index 407dc78..c938693 100644
--- a/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/arm/mm/mmap.c
@@ -173,8 +173,7 @@ unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
 	unsigned long rnd;
 
-	/* 8 bits of randomness in 20 address space bits */
-	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << 8);
+	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
 
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-18 23:20     ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-18 23:20       ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

arm64: arch_mmap_rnd() uses STACK_RND_MASK to generate the
random offset for the mmap base address.  This value represents a
compromise between increased ASLR effectiveness and avoiding
address-space fragmentation. Replace it with a Kconfig option, which
is sensibly bounded, so that platform developers may choose where to
place this compromise. Keep default values as new minimums.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 arch/arm64/Kconfig   | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c |  6 ++++--
 2 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
index 9ac16a4..be38e4c 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
@@ -51,6 +51,8 @@ config ARM64
 	select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KASAN if SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
 	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
 	select HAVE_BPF_JIT
@@ -104,6 +106,27 @@ config ARCH_PHYS_ADDR_T_64BIT
 config MMU
 	def_bool y
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
+       default 19
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
+       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
+       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
+       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
+       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
+       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
+       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
+       default 19
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
+       default 11
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+       default 16
+
 config NO_IOPORT_MAP
 	def_bool y if !PCI
 
diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c b/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c
index ed17747..b84d5b1 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c
@@ -51,8 +51,10 @@ unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
 	unsigned long rnd;
 
-	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() & STACK_RND_MASK;
-
+	if (test_thread_flag(TIF_32BIT))
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_compat_bits);
+	else
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
 
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0


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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20       ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

arm64: arch_mmap_rnd() uses STACK_RND_MASK to generate the
random offset for the mmap base address.  This value represents a
compromise between increased ASLR effectiveness and avoiding
address-space fragmentation. Replace it with a Kconfig option, which
is sensibly bounded, so that platform developers may choose where to
place this compromise. Keep default values as new minimums.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 arch/arm64/Kconfig   | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c |  6 ++++--
 2 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
index 9ac16a4..be38e4c 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
@@ -51,6 +51,8 @@ config ARM64
 	select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KASAN if SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
 	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
 	select HAVE_BPF_JIT
@@ -104,6 +106,27 @@ config ARCH_PHYS_ADDR_T_64BIT
 config MMU
 	def_bool y
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
+       default 19
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
+       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
+       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
+       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
+       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
+       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
+       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
+       default 19
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
+       default 11
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+       default 16
+
 config NO_IOPORT_MAP
 	def_bool y if !PCI
 
diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c b/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c
index ed17747..b84d5b1 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c
@@ -51,8 +51,10 @@ unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
 	unsigned long rnd;
 
-	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() & STACK_RND_MASK;
-
+	if (test_thread_flag(TIF_32BIT))
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_compat_bits);
+	else
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
 
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20       ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

arm64: arch_mmap_rnd() uses STACK_RND_MASK to generate the
random offset for the mmap base address.  This value represents a
compromise between increased ASLR effectiveness and avoiding
address-space fragmentation. Replace it with a Kconfig option, which
is sensibly bounded, so that platform developers may choose where to
place this compromise. Keep default values as new minimums.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 arch/arm64/Kconfig   | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c |  6 ++++--
 2 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
index 9ac16a4..be38e4c 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
@@ -51,6 +51,8 @@ config ARM64
 	select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KASAN if SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
 	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
 	select HAVE_BPF_JIT
@@ -104,6 +106,27 @@ config ARCH_PHYS_ADDR_T_64BIT
 config MMU
 	def_bool y
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
+       default 19
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
+       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
+       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
+       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
+       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
+       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
+       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
+       default 19
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
+       default 11
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+       default 16
+
 config NO_IOPORT_MAP
 	def_bool y if !PCI
 
diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c b/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c
index ed17747..b84d5b1 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c
@@ -51,8 +51,10 @@ unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
 	unsigned long rnd;
 
-	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() & STACK_RND_MASK;
-
+	if (test_thread_flag(TIF_32BIT))
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_compat_bits);
+	else
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
 
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* [PATCH v3 4/4] x86: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-18 23:20       ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-18 23:20         ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

x86: arch_mmap_rnd() uses hard-coded values, 8 for 32-bit and 28 for
64-bit, to generate the random offset for the mmap base address.
This value represents a compromise between increased ASLR
effectiveness and avoiding address-space fragmentation. Replace it
with a Kconfig option, which is sensibly bounded, so that platform
developers may choose where to place this compromise. Keep default
values as new minimums.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 arch/x86/Kconfig   | 16 ++++++++++++++++
 arch/x86/mm/mmap.c | 12 ++++++------
 2 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
index db3622f..12768c4 100644
--- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
@@ -82,6 +82,8 @@ config X86
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KASAN			if X86_64 && SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KMEMCHECK
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SOFT_DIRTY		if X86_64
 	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
@@ -183,6 +185,20 @@ config HAVE_LATENCYTOP_SUPPORT
 config MMU
 	def_bool y
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+       default 28 if 64BIT
+       default 8
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	default 32 if 64BIT
+	default 16
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	default 8
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	default 16
+
 config SBUS
 	bool
 
diff --git a/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c b/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
index 844b06d..647fecf 100644
--- a/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
@@ -69,14 +69,14 @@ unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
 	unsigned long rnd;
 
-	/*
-	 *  8 bits of randomness in 32bit mmaps, 20 address space bits
-	 * 28 bits of randomness in 64bit mmaps, 40 address space bits
-	 */
 	if (mmap_is_ia32())
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<8);
+#ifdef CONFIG_COMPAT
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_compat_bits);
+#else
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
+#endif
 	else
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<28);
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
 
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0


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* [PATCH v3 4/4] x86: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20         ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

x86: arch_mmap_rnd() uses hard-coded values, 8 for 32-bit and 28 for
64-bit, to generate the random offset for the mmap base address.
This value represents a compromise between increased ASLR
effectiveness and avoiding address-space fragmentation. Replace it
with a Kconfig option, which is sensibly bounded, so that platform
developers may choose where to place this compromise. Keep default
values as new minimums.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 arch/x86/Kconfig   | 16 ++++++++++++++++
 arch/x86/mm/mmap.c | 12 ++++++------
 2 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
index db3622f..12768c4 100644
--- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
@@ -82,6 +82,8 @@ config X86
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KASAN			if X86_64 && SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KMEMCHECK
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SOFT_DIRTY		if X86_64
 	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
@@ -183,6 +185,20 @@ config HAVE_LATENCYTOP_SUPPORT
 config MMU
 	def_bool y
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+       default 28 if 64BIT
+       default 8
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	default 32 if 64BIT
+	default 16
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	default 8
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	default 16
+
 config SBUS
 	bool
 
diff --git a/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c b/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
index 844b06d..647fecf 100644
--- a/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
@@ -69,14 +69,14 @@ unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
 	unsigned long rnd;
 
-	/*
-	 *  8 bits of randomness in 32bit mmaps, 20 address space bits
-	 * 28 bits of randomness in 64bit mmaps, 40 address space bits
-	 */
 	if (mmap_is_ia32())
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<8);
+#ifdef CONFIG_COMPAT
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_compat_bits);
+#else
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
+#endif
 	else
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<28);
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
 
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* [PATCH v3 4/4] x86: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-18 23:20         ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-18 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>

x86: arch_mmap_rnd() uses hard-coded values, 8 for 32-bit and 28 for
64-bit, to generate the random offset for the mmap base address.
This value represents a compromise between increased ASLR
effectiveness and avoiding address-space fragmentation. Replace it
with a Kconfig option, which is sensibly bounded, so that platform
developers may choose where to place this compromise. Keep default
values as new minimums.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
---
 arch/x86/Kconfig   | 16 ++++++++++++++++
 arch/x86/mm/mmap.c | 12 ++++++------
 2 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
index db3622f..12768c4 100644
--- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
@@ -82,6 +82,8 @@ config X86
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KASAN			if X86_64 && SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB
 	select HAVE_ARCH_KMEMCHECK
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SOFT_DIRTY		if X86_64
 	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
@@ -183,6 +185,20 @@ config HAVE_LATENCYTOP_SUPPORT
 config MMU
 	def_bool y
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+       default 28 if 64BIT
+       default 8
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	default 32 if 64BIT
+	default 16
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	default 8
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	default 16
+
 config SBUS
 	bool
 
diff --git a/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c b/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
index 844b06d..647fecf 100644
--- a/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/x86/mm/mmap.c
@@ -69,14 +69,14 @@ unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
 	unsigned long rnd;
 
-	/*
-	 *  8 bits of randomness in 32bit mmaps, 20 address space bits
-	 * 28 bits of randomness in 64bit mmaps, 40 address space bits
-	 */
 	if (mmap_is_ia32())
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<8);
+#ifdef CONFIG_COMPAT
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_compat_bits);
+#else
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
+#endif
 	else
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<28);
+		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << mmap_rnd_bits);
 
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
-- 
2.6.0.rc2.230.g3dd15c0

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* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  2015-11-18 23:20   ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-19  0:14     ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-19  0:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

On 11/18/2015 03:20 PM, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>  ==============================================================
>  
> +mmap_rnd_bits:
> +
> +This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
> +determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
> +resulting from mmap allocations on architectures which support
> +tuning address space randomization.  This value will be bounded
> +by the architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
> +
> +This value can be changed after boot using the
> +/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_bits tunable
> +
> +==============================================================
> +
> +mmap_rnd_compat_bits:
> +
> +This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
> +determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
> +resulting from mmap allocations for applications run in
> +compatibility mode on architectures which support tuning address
> +space randomization.  This value will be bounded by the
> +architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
> +
> +This value can be changed after boot using the
> +/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_compat_bits tunable
> +
> +==============================================================

As Kees pointed out in my erroneously sent (missing v3 prefix)
patch-set: the /proc/sys/kernel/ entries were not changed to reflect the
move to /proc/sys/vm/.


> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index 00bad77..7d39828 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -51,6 +51,17 @@ extern int sysctl_legacy_va_layout;
>  #define sysctl_legacy_va_layout 0
>  #endif
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +extern int mmap_rnd_bits_min;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_bits_max;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_bits;
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits;
> +#endif
> +
>  #include <asm/page.h>
>  #include <asm/pgtable.h>
>  #include <asm/processor.h>
> diff --git a/kernel/sysctl.c b/kernel/sysctl.c
> index dc6858d..40e5de6 100644
> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>  		.mode		= 0644,
>  		.proc_handler	= proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>  	},
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,
> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,
> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
>  	{ }
>  };
>  
> diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
> index 2ce04a6..aa49841 100644
> --- a/mm/mmap.c
> +++ b/mm/mmap.c
> @@ -58,6 +58,18 @@
>  #define arch_rebalance_pgtables(addr, len)		(addr)
>  #endif
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
> +#endif
> +

Again from Kees in my erroneously sent (missing v3 prefix) patch-set:
the min/max should be const.

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* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-19  0:14     ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-19  0:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

On 11/18/2015 03:20 PM, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>  ==============================================================
>  
> +mmap_rnd_bits:
> +
> +This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
> +determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
> +resulting from mmap allocations on architectures which support
> +tuning address space randomization.  This value will be bounded
> +by the architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
> +
> +This value can be changed after boot using the
> +/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_bits tunable
> +
> +==============================================================
> +
> +mmap_rnd_compat_bits:
> +
> +This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
> +determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
> +resulting from mmap allocations for applications run in
> +compatibility mode on architectures which support tuning address
> +space randomization.  This value will be bounded by the
> +architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
> +
> +This value can be changed after boot using the
> +/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_compat_bits tunable
> +
> +==============================================================

As Kees pointed out in my erroneously sent (missing v3 prefix)
patch-set: the /proc/sys/kernel/ entries were not changed to reflect the
move to /proc/sys/vm/.


> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index 00bad77..7d39828 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -51,6 +51,17 @@ extern int sysctl_legacy_va_layout;
>  #define sysctl_legacy_va_layout 0
>  #endif
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +extern int mmap_rnd_bits_min;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_bits_max;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_bits;
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits;
> +#endif
> +
>  #include <asm/page.h>
>  #include <asm/pgtable.h>
>  #include <asm/processor.h>
> diff --git a/kernel/sysctl.c b/kernel/sysctl.c
> index dc6858d..40e5de6 100644
> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>  		.mode		= 0644,
>  		.proc_handler	= proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>  	},
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,
> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,
> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
>  	{ }
>  };
>  
> diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
> index 2ce04a6..aa49841 100644
> --- a/mm/mmap.c
> +++ b/mm/mmap.c
> @@ -58,6 +58,18 @@
>  #define arch_rebalance_pgtables(addr, len)		(addr)
>  #endif
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
> +#endif
> +

Again from Kees in my erroneously sent (missing v3 prefix) patch-set:
the min/max should be const.

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* [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-19  0:14     ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-19  0:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 11/18/2015 03:20 PM, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>  ==============================================================
>  
> +mmap_rnd_bits:
> +
> +This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
> +determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
> +resulting from mmap allocations on architectures which support
> +tuning address space randomization.  This value will be bounded
> +by the architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
> +
> +This value can be changed after boot using the
> +/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_bits tunable
> +
> +==============================================================
> +
> +mmap_rnd_compat_bits:
> +
> +This value can be used to select the number of bits to use to
> +determine the random offset to the base address of vma regions
> +resulting from mmap allocations for applications run in
> +compatibility mode on architectures which support tuning address
> +space randomization.  This value will be bounded by the
> +architecture's minimum and maximum supported values.
> +
> +This value can be changed after boot using the
> +/proc/sys/kernel/mmap_rnd_compat_bits tunable
> +
> +==============================================================

As Kees pointed out in my erroneously sent (missing v3 prefix)
patch-set: the /proc/sys/kernel/ entries were not changed to reflect the
move to /proc/sys/vm/.


> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index 00bad77..7d39828 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -51,6 +51,17 @@ extern int sysctl_legacy_va_layout;
>  #define sysctl_legacy_va_layout 0
>  #endif
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +extern int mmap_rnd_bits_min;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_bits_max;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_bits;
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max;
> +extern int mmap_rnd_compat_bits;
> +#endif
> +
>  #include <asm/page.h>
>  #include <asm/pgtable.h>
>  #include <asm/processor.h>
> diff --git a/kernel/sysctl.c b/kernel/sysctl.c
> index dc6858d..40e5de6 100644
> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>  		.mode		= 0644,
>  		.proc_handler	= proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>  	},
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,
> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,
> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
>  	{ }
>  };
>  
> diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
> index 2ce04a6..aa49841 100644
> --- a/mm/mmap.c
> +++ b/mm/mmap.c
> @@ -58,6 +58,18 @@
>  #define arch_rebalance_pgtables(addr, len)		(addr)
>  #endif
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
> +#endif
> +

Again from Kees in my erroneously sent (missing v3 prefix) patch-set:
the min/max should be const.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] x86: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-18 23:20         ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-19  0:16           ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-19  0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

On 11/18/2015 03:20 PM, Daniel Cashman wrote:

> -	/*
> -	 *  8 bits of randomness in 32bit mmaps, 20 address space bits
> -	 * 28 bits of randomness in 64bit mmaps, 40 address space bits
> -	 */

This should be removed.


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] x86: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-19  0:16           ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-19  0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

On 11/18/2015 03:20 PM, Daniel Cashman wrote:

> -	/*
> -	 *  8 bits of randomness in 32bit mmaps, 20 address space bits
> -	 * 28 bits of randomness in 64bit mmaps, 40 address space bits
> -	 */

This should be removed.

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* [PATCH v3 4/4] x86: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-19  0:16           ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-19  0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 11/18/2015 03:20 PM, Daniel Cashman wrote:

> -	/*
> -	 *  8 bits of randomness in 32bit mmaps, 20 address space bits
> -	 * 28 bits of randomness in 64bit mmaps, 40 address space bits
> -	 */

This should be removed.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-18 23:20       ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-23 15:04         ` Will Deacon
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Will Deacon @ 2015-11-23 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel,
	corbet, dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe,
	kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes,
	linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, hpa,
	x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>
> 
> arm64: arch_mmap_rnd() uses STACK_RND_MASK to generate the
> random offset for the mmap base address.  This value represents a
> compromise between increased ASLR effectiveness and avoiding
> address-space fragmentation. Replace it with a Kconfig option, which
> is sensibly bounded, so that platform developers may choose where to
> place this compromise. Keep default values as new minimums.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
> ---
>  arch/arm64/Kconfig   | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c |  6 ++++--
>  2 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> index 9ac16a4..be38e4c 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> @@ -51,6 +51,8 @@ config ARM64
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_KASAN if SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB
> +	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
>  	select HAVE_BPF_JIT
> @@ -104,6 +106,27 @@ config ARCH_PHYS_ADDR_T_64BIT
>  config MMU
>  	def_bool y
>  
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> +       default 19
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> +       default 19
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> +       default 11

FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
all open-coded like this.

Will

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-23 15:04         ` Will Deacon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Will Deacon @ 2015-11-23 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel,
	corbet, dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe,
	kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes,
	linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, hpa,
	x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>
> 
> arm64: arch_mmap_rnd() uses STACK_RND_MASK to generate the
> random offset for the mmap base address.  This value represents a
> compromise between increased ASLR effectiveness and avoiding
> address-space fragmentation. Replace it with a Kconfig option, which
> is sensibly bounded, so that platform developers may choose where to
> place this compromise. Keep default values as new minimums.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
> ---
>  arch/arm64/Kconfig   | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c |  6 ++++--
>  2 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> index 9ac16a4..be38e4c 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> @@ -51,6 +51,8 @@ config ARM64
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_KASAN if SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB
> +	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
>  	select HAVE_BPF_JIT
> @@ -104,6 +106,27 @@ config ARCH_PHYS_ADDR_T_64BIT
>  config MMU
>  	def_bool y
>  
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> +       default 19
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> +       default 19
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> +       default 11

FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
all open-coded like this.

Will

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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-23 15:04         ` Will Deacon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Will Deacon @ 2015-11-23 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>
> 
> arm64: arch_mmap_rnd() uses STACK_RND_MASK to generate the
> random offset for the mmap base address.  This value represents a
> compromise between increased ASLR effectiveness and avoiding
> address-space fragmentation. Replace it with a Kconfig option, which
> is sensibly bounded, so that platform developers may choose where to
> place this compromise. Keep default values as new minimums.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Daniel Cashman <dcashman@google.com>
> ---
>  arch/arm64/Kconfig   | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  arch/arm64/mm/mmap.c |  6 ++++--
>  2 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> index 9ac16a4..be38e4c 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> @@ -51,6 +51,8 @@ config ARM64
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_JUMP_LABEL
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_KASAN if SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_KGDB
> +	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
>  	select HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK
>  	select HAVE_BPF_JIT
> @@ -104,6 +106,27 @@ config ARCH_PHYS_ADDR_T_64BIT
>  config MMU
>  	def_bool y
>  
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> +       default 19
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> +       default 19
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> +       default 11

FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
all open-coded like this.

Will

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-23 15:04         ` Will Deacon
  (?)
@ 2015-11-23 18:55           ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-23 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Will Deacon
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel,
	corbet, dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe,
	kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes,
	linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, hpa,
	x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>> +       default 19
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>> +       default 11
> 
> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
> all open-coded like this.

Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
setup we have a combinatorial problem.

We could move this logic into the code where min/max are initialized,
but that would create its own mess, creating new Kconfig values to
introduce it in an arch-agnostic way after patch-set v2 moved that to
mm/mmap.c instread of arch/${arch}/mm/mmap.c Suggestions welcome.

Thank You,
Dan


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-23 18:55           ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-23 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Will Deacon
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel,
	corbet, dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe,
	kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes,
	linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, hpa,
	x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>> +       default 19
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>> +       default 11
> 
> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
> all open-coded like this.

Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
setup we have a combinatorial problem.

We could move this logic into the code where min/max are initialized,
but that would create its own mess, creating new Kconfig values to
introduce it in an arch-agnostic way after patch-set v2 moved that to
mm/mmap.c instread of arch/${arch}/mm/mmap.c Suggestions welcome.

Thank You,
Dan

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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-23 18:55           ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-23 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>> +       default 19
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>> +       default 11
> 
> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
> all open-coded like this.

Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
setup we have a combinatorial problem.

We could move this logic into the code where min/max are initialized,
but that would create its own mess, creating new Kconfig values to
introduce it in an arch-agnostic way after patch-set v2 moved that to
mm/mmap.c instread of arch/${arch}/mm/mmap.c Suggestions welcome.

Thank You,
Dan

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
  2015-11-18 23:20 ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25  0:39   ` Andrew Morton
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2015-11-25  0:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon,
	hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman, Ralf Baechle,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Heiko Carstens, Martin Schwidefsky

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:04 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:

> Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) provides a barrier to
> exploitation of user-space processes in the presence of security
> vulnerabilities by making it more difficult to find desired code/data
> which could help an attack.  This is done by adding a random offset to the
> location of regions in the process address space, with a greater range of
> potential offset values corresponding to better protection/a larger
> search-space for brute force, but also to greater potential for
> fragmentation.
> 
> The offset added to the mmap_base address, which provides the basis for
> the majority of the mappings for a process, is set once on process exec in
> arch_pick_mmap_layout() and is done via hard-coded per-arch values, which
> reflect, hopefully, the best compromise for all systems.  The trade-off
> between increased entropy in the offset value generation and the
> corresponding increased variability in address space fragmentation is not
> absolute, however, and some platforms may tolerate higher amounts of
> entropy.  This patch introduces both new Kconfig values and a sysctl
> interface which may be used to change the amount of entropy used for
> offset generation on a system.
> 
> The direct motivation for this change was in response to the
> libstagefright vulnerabilities that affected Android, specifically to
> information provided by Google's project zero at:
> 
> http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/09/stagefrightened.html
> 
> The attack presented therein, by Google's project zero, specifically
> targeted the limited randomness used to generate the offset added to the
> mmap_base address in order to craft a brute-force-based attack. 
> Concretely, the attack was against the mediaserver process, which was
> limited to respawning every 5 seconds, on an arm device.  The hard-coded 8
> bits used resulted in an average expected success rate of defeating the
> mmap ASLR after just over 10 minutes (128 tries at 5 seconds a piece). 
> With this patch, and an accompanying increase in the entropy value to 16
> bits, the same attack would take an average expected time of over 45 hours
> (32768 tries), which makes it both less feasible and more likely to be
> noticed.
> 
> The introduced Kconfig and sysctl options are limited by per-arch minimum
> and maximum values, the minimum of which was chosen to match the current
> hard-coded value and the maximum of which was chosen so as to give the
> greatest flexibility without generating an invalid mmap_base address,
> generally a 3-4 bits less than the number of bits in the user-space
> accessible virtual address space.
> 
> When decided whether or not to change the default value, a system
> developer should consider that mmap_base address could be placed anywhere
> up to 2^(value) bits away from the non-randomized location, which would
> introduce variable-sized areas above and below the mmap_base address such
> that the maximum vm_area_struct size may be reduced, preventing very large
> allocations. 

Nice, thanks.

mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
it up and testing it?


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-25  0:39   ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2015-11-25  0:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon,
	hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman, Ralf Baechle,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Heiko Carstens, Martin Schwidefsky

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:04 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:

> Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) provides a barrier to
> exploitation of user-space processes in the presence of security
> vulnerabilities by making it more difficult to find desired code/data
> which could help an attack.  This is done by adding a random offset to the
> location of regions in the process address space, with a greater range of
> potential offset values corresponding to better protection/a larger
> search-space for brute force, but also to greater potential for
> fragmentation.
> 
> The offset added to the mmap_base address, which provides the basis for
> the majority of the mappings for a process, is set once on process exec in
> arch_pick_mmap_layout() and is done via hard-coded per-arch values, which
> reflect, hopefully, the best compromise for all systems.  The trade-off
> between increased entropy in the offset value generation and the
> corresponding increased variability in address space fragmentation is not
> absolute, however, and some platforms may tolerate higher amounts of
> entropy.  This patch introduces both new Kconfig values and a sysctl
> interface which may be used to change the amount of entropy used for
> offset generation on a system.
> 
> The direct motivation for this change was in response to the
> libstagefright vulnerabilities that affected Android, specifically to
> information provided by Google's project zero at:
> 
> http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/09/stagefrightened.html
> 
> The attack presented therein, by Google's project zero, specifically
> targeted the limited randomness used to generate the offset added to the
> mmap_base address in order to craft a brute-force-based attack. 
> Concretely, the attack was against the mediaserver process, which was
> limited to respawning every 5 seconds, on an arm device.  The hard-coded 8
> bits used resulted in an average expected success rate of defeating the
> mmap ASLR after just over 10 minutes (128 tries at 5 seconds a piece). 
> With this patch, and an accompanying increase in the entropy value to 16
> bits, the same attack would take an average expected time of over 45 hours
> (32768 tries), which makes it both less feasible and more likely to be
> noticed.
> 
> The introduced Kconfig and sysctl options are limited by per-arch minimum
> and maximum values, the minimum of which was chosen to match the current
> hard-coded value and the maximum of which was chosen so as to give the
> greatest flexibility without generating an invalid mmap_base address,
> generally a 3-4 bits less than the number of bits in the user-space
> accessible virtual address space.
> 
> When decided whether or not to change the default value, a system
> developer should consider that mmap_base address could be placed anywhere
> up to 2^(value) bits away from the non-randomized location, which would
> introduce variable-sized areas above and below the mmap_base address such
> that the maximum vm_area_struct size may be reduced, preventing very large
> allocations. 

Nice, thanks.

mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
it up and testing it?

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* [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-25  0:39   ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2015-11-25  0:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:04 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:

> Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) provides a barrier to
> exploitation of user-space processes in the presence of security
> vulnerabilities by making it more difficult to find desired code/data
> which could help an attack.  This is done by adding a random offset to the
> location of regions in the process address space, with a greater range of
> potential offset values corresponding to better protection/a larger
> search-space for brute force, but also to greater potential for
> fragmentation.
> 
> The offset added to the mmap_base address, which provides the basis for
> the majority of the mappings for a process, is set once on process exec in
> arch_pick_mmap_layout() and is done via hard-coded per-arch values, which
> reflect, hopefully, the best compromise for all systems.  The trade-off
> between increased entropy in the offset value generation and the
> corresponding increased variability in address space fragmentation is not
> absolute, however, and some platforms may tolerate higher amounts of
> entropy.  This patch introduces both new Kconfig values and a sysctl
> interface which may be used to change the amount of entropy used for
> offset generation on a system.
> 
> The direct motivation for this change was in response to the
> libstagefright vulnerabilities that affected Android, specifically to
> information provided by Google's project zero at:
> 
> http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/09/stagefrightened.html
> 
> The attack presented therein, by Google's project zero, specifically
> targeted the limited randomness used to generate the offset added to the
> mmap_base address in order to craft a brute-force-based attack. 
> Concretely, the attack was against the mediaserver process, which was
> limited to respawning every 5 seconds, on an arm device.  The hard-coded 8
> bits used resulted in an average expected success rate of defeating the
> mmap ASLR after just over 10 minutes (128 tries at 5 seconds a piece). 
> With this patch, and an accompanying increase in the entropy value to 16
> bits, the same attack would take an average expected time of over 45 hours
> (32768 tries), which makes it both less feasible and more likely to be
> noticed.
> 
> The introduced Kconfig and sysctl options are limited by per-arch minimum
> and maximum values, the minimum of which was chosen to match the current
> hard-coded value and the maximum of which was chosen so as to give the
> greatest flexibility without generating an invalid mmap_base address,
> generally a 3-4 bits less than the number of bits in the user-space
> accessible virtual address space.
> 
> When decided whether or not to change the default value, a system
> developer should consider that mmap_base address could be placed anywhere
> up to 2^(value) bits away from the non-randomized location, which would
> introduce variable-sized areas above and below the mmap_base address such
> that the maximum vm_area_struct size may be reduced, preventing very large
> allocations. 

Nice, thanks.

mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
it up and testing it?

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  2015-11-18 23:20   ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25  0:40     ` Andrew Morton
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2015-11-25  0:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon,
	hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:05 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:

> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>  		.mode		= 0644,
>  		.proc_handler	= proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>  	},
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,

Is there any harm in permitting the attacker to read these values?

And is there any benefit in permitting non-attackers to read them?

> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,
> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
>
> ...
>
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;

These could be __read_mostly.

If one believes in such things.  One effect of __read_mostly is to
clump the write-often stuff into the same cachelines and I've never
been convinced that one outweighs the other...


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25  0:40     ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2015-11-25  0:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon,
	hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:05 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:

> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>  		.mode		= 0644,
>  		.proc_handler	= proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>  	},
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,

Is there any harm in permitting the attacker to read these values?

And is there any benefit in permitting non-attackers to read them?

> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,
> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
>
> ...
>
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;

These could be __read_mostly.

If one believes in such things.  One effect of __read_mostly is to
clump the write-often stuff into the same cachelines and I've never
been convinced that one outweighs the other...

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* [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25  0:40     ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2015-11-25  0:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:05 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:

> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>  		.mode		= 0644,
>  		.proc_handler	= proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>  	},
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,

Is there any harm in permitting the attacker to read these values?

And is there any benefit in permitting non-attackers to read them?

> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +	{
> +		.procname	= "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
> +		.data		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
> +		.maxlen		= sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
> +		.mode		= 0644,
> +		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec_minmax,
> +		.extra1		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
> +		.extra2		= &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
> +	},
> +#endif
>
> ...
>
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
> +#endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;

These could be __read_mostly.

If one believes in such things.  One effect of __read_mostly is to
clump the write-often stuff into the same cachelines and I've never
been convinced that one outweighs the other...

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* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  2015-11-25  0:40     ` Andrew Morton
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25  0:47       ` Kees Cook
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2015-11-25  0:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton
  Cc: Daniel Cashman, LKML, Russell King - ARM Linux, Ingo Molnar,
	linux-arm-kernel, Jonathan Corbet, Don Zickus, Eric W. Biederman,
	Heinrich Schuchardt, jpoimboe, Kirill A. Shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	Andrea Arcangeli, Mel Gorman, Thomas Gleixner, David Rientjes,
	Linux-MM, linux-doc, Mark Salyzyn, Jeffrey Vander Stoep,
	Nick Kralevich, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, H. Peter Anvin,
	x86, Hector Marco, Borislav Petkov, Daniel Cashman

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Morton
<akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:05 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:
>
>> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
>> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>>               .mode           = 0644,
>>               .proc_handler   = proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>>       },
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +     {
>> +             .procname       = "mmap_rnd_bits",
>> +             .data           = &mmap_rnd_bits,
>> +             .maxlen         = sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
>> +             .mode           = 0644,
>
> Is there any harm in permitting the attacker to read these values?
>
> And is there any benefit in permitting non-attackers to read them?

I'm on the fence. Things like kernel/randomize_va_space is 644. But
since I don't see a benefit in exposing them, let's make them all 600
instead -- it's a new interface, better to keep it narrower now.

>
>> +             .proc_handler   = proc_dointvec_minmax,
>> +             .extra1         = &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
>> +             .extra2         = &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
>> +     },
>> +#endif
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>> +     {
>> +             .procname       = "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
>> +             .data           = &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
>> +             .maxlen         = sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
>> +             .mode           = 0644,
>> +             .proc_handler   = proc_dointvec_minmax,
>> +             .extra1         = &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
>> +             .extra2         = &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
>> +     },
>> +#endif
>>
>> ...
>>
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
>> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
>> +#endif
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
>
> These could be __read_mostly.
>
> If one believes in such things.  One effect of __read_mostly is to
> clump the write-often stuff into the same cachelines and I've never
> been convinced that one outweighs the other...

The _min and _max values should be const, actually, since they're
build-time selected. The _bits could easily be __read_mostly, yeah.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS & Brillo Security

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* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25  0:47       ` Kees Cook
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2015-11-25  0:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton
  Cc: Daniel Cashman, LKML, Russell King - ARM Linux, Ingo Molnar,
	linux-arm-kernel, Jonathan Corbet, Don Zickus, Eric W. Biederman,
	Heinrich Schuchardt, jpoimboe, Kirill A. Shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	Andrea Arcangeli, Mel Gorman, Thomas Gleixner, David Rientjes,
	Linux-MM, linux-doc, Mark Salyzyn, Jeffrey Vander Stoep,
	Nick Kralevich, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, H. Peter Anvin,
	x86, Hector Marco, Borislav Petkov, Daniel Cashman

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Morton
<akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:05 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:
>
>> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
>> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>>               .mode           = 0644,
>>               .proc_handler   = proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>>       },
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +     {
>> +             .procname       = "mmap_rnd_bits",
>> +             .data           = &mmap_rnd_bits,
>> +             .maxlen         = sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
>> +             .mode           = 0644,
>
> Is there any harm in permitting the attacker to read these values?
>
> And is there any benefit in permitting non-attackers to read them?

I'm on the fence. Things like kernel/randomize_va_space is 644. But
since I don't see a benefit in exposing them, let's make them all 600
instead -- it's a new interface, better to keep it narrower now.

>
>> +             .proc_handler   = proc_dointvec_minmax,
>> +             .extra1         = &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
>> +             .extra2         = &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
>> +     },
>> +#endif
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>> +     {
>> +             .procname       = "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
>> +             .data           = &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
>> +             .maxlen         = sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
>> +             .mode           = 0644,
>> +             .proc_handler   = proc_dointvec_minmax,
>> +             .extra1         = &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
>> +             .extra2         = &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
>> +     },
>> +#endif
>>
>> ...
>>
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
>> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
>> +#endif
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
>
> These could be __read_mostly.
>
> If one believes in such things.  One effect of __read_mostly is to
> clump the write-often stuff into the same cachelines and I've never
> been convinced that one outweighs the other...

The _min and _max values should be const, actually, since they're
build-time selected. The _bits could easily be __read_mostly, yeah.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS & Brillo Security

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* [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25  0:47       ` Kees Cook
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2015-11-25  0:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Morton
<akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:05 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:
>
>> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
>> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>>               .mode           = 0644,
>>               .proc_handler   = proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>>       },
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +     {
>> +             .procname       = "mmap_rnd_bits",
>> +             .data           = &mmap_rnd_bits,
>> +             .maxlen         = sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
>> +             .mode           = 0644,
>
> Is there any harm in permitting the attacker to read these values?
>
> And is there any benefit in permitting non-attackers to read them?

I'm on the fence. Things like kernel/randomize_va_space is 644. But
since I don't see a benefit in exposing them, let's make them all 600
instead -- it's a new interface, better to keep it narrower now.

>
>> +             .proc_handler   = proc_dointvec_minmax,
>> +             .extra1         = &mmap_rnd_bits_min,
>> +             .extra2         = &mmap_rnd_bits_max,
>> +     },
>> +#endif
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>> +     {
>> +             .procname       = "mmap_rnd_compat_bits",
>> +             .data           = &mmap_rnd_compat_bits,
>> +             .maxlen         = sizeof(mmap_rnd_compat_bits),
>> +             .mode           = 0644,
>> +             .proc_handler   = proc_dointvec_minmax,
>> +             .extra1         = &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min,
>> +             .extra2         = &mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max,
>> +     },
>> +#endif
>>
>> ...
>>
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
>> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
>> +#endif
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
>
> These could be __read_mostly.
>
> If one believes in such things.  One effect of __read_mostly is to
> clump the write-often stuff into the same cachelines and I've never
> been convinced that one outweighs the other...

The _min and _max values should be const, actually, since they're
build-time selected. The _bits could easily be __read_mostly, yeah.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS & Brillo Security

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* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-23 18:55           ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25  4:26             ` Michael Ellerman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Michael Ellerman @ 2015-11-25  4:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman, Will Deacon
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel,
	corbet, dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe,
	kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes,
	linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, hpa,
	x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 10:55 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> > > +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> > > +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> > > +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> > > +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> > > +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> > > +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> > > +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> > > +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> > > +       default 19
> > > +
> > > +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> > > +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> > > +       default 11
> > 
> > FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
> > be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
> > all open-coded like this.
> 
> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
> 
> We could move this logic into the code where min/max are initialized,
> but that would create its own mess, creating new Kconfig values to
> introduce it in an arch-agnostic way after patch-set v2 moved that to
> mm/mmap.c instead of arch/${arch}/mm/mmap.c Suggestions welcome.


Could we instead change the meaning of the mmap_rnd_bits value to be the number
of address space bits that may be randomised?

ie. 40 would mean "please randomise in a 1T range", which with PAGE_SIZE=4K
gives you 28 random bits. etc.

That would make the value independent of PAGE_SIZE, and only depend on the size
of the address space.

It would also mean the values userspace sets and sees don't need to change if the
kernel PAGE_SIZE changes. (which probably doesn't happen often but still)

cheers


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* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-25  4:26             ` Michael Ellerman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Michael Ellerman @ 2015-11-25  4:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman, Will Deacon
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel,
	corbet, dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe,
	kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes,
	linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, hpa,
	x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 10:55 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> > > +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> > > +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> > > +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> > > +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> > > +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> > > +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> > > +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> > > +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> > > +       default 19
> > > +
> > > +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> > > +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> > > +       default 11
> > 
> > FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
> > be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
> > all open-coded like this.
> 
> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
> 
> We could move this logic into the code where min/max are initialized,
> but that would create its own mess, creating new Kconfig values to
> introduce it in an arch-agnostic way after patch-set v2 moved that to
> mm/mmap.c instead of arch/${arch}/mm/mmap.c Suggestions welcome.


Could we instead change the meaning of the mmap_rnd_bits value to be the number
of address space bits that may be randomised?

ie. 40 would mean "please randomise in a 1T range", which with PAGE_SIZE=4K
gives you 28 random bits. etc.

That would make the value independent of PAGE_SIZE, and only depend on the size
of the address space.

It would also mean the values userspace sets and sees don't need to change if the
kernel PAGE_SIZE changes. (which probably doesn't happen often but still)

cheers

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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-25  4:26             ` Michael Ellerman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Michael Ellerman @ 2015-11-25  4:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 10:55 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> > > +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> > > +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> > > +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> > > +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> > > +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> > > +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> > > +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> > > +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> > > +       default 19
> > > +
> > > +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> > > +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> > > +       default 11
> > 
> > FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
> > be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
> > all open-coded like this.
> 
> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
> 
> We could move this logic into the code where min/max are initialized,
> but that would create its own mess, creating new Kconfig values to
> introduce it in an arch-agnostic way after patch-set v2 moved that to
> mm/mmap.c instead of arch/${arch}/mm/mmap.c Suggestions welcome.


Could we instead change the meaning of the mmap_rnd_bits value to be the number
of address space bits that may be randomised?

ie. 40 would mean "please randomise in a 1T range", which with PAGE_SIZE=4K
gives you 28 random bits. etc.

That would make the value independent of PAGE_SIZE, and only depend on the size
of the address space.

It would also mean the values userspace sets and sees don't need to change if the
kernel PAGE_SIZE changes. (which probably doesn't happen often but still)

cheers

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* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  2015-11-18 23:20   ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25  4:40     ` Michael Ellerman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Michael Ellerman @ 2015-11-25  4:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman, linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:20 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:

> From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>
> 
> ASLR currently only uses 8 bits to generate the random offset for the
> mmap base address on 32 bit architectures. This value was chosen to
> prevent a poorly chosen value from dividing the address space in such
> a way as to prevent large allocations. This may not be an issue on all
> platforms. Allow the specification of a minimum number of bits so that
> platforms desiring greater ASLR protection may determine where to place
> the trade-off.

...

> diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
> index 4e949e5..141823f 100644
> --- a/arch/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/Kconfig
> @@ -511,6 +511,70 @@ config ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE
>  	  - arch_mmap_rnd()
>  	  - arch_randomize_brk()
>  
> +config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	bool
> +	help
> +	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports setting a variable
> +	  number of bits for use in establishing the base address for mmap
> +	  allocations and provides values for both:
> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +	int
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +	int
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
> +	int
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address" if EXPERT
> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT if ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT

Here you support a default which is separate from the minimum.

> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS

...
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address for compatible applications" if EXPERT
> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN

But here you don't.

Just forgot?

I'd like to have a default which is separate from the minimum. That way we can
have a default which is reasonably large, but allow it to be lowered easily if
anything breaks.

cheers


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25  4:40     ` Michael Ellerman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Michael Ellerman @ 2015-11-25  4:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman, linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:20 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:

> From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>
> 
> ASLR currently only uses 8 bits to generate the random offset for the
> mmap base address on 32 bit architectures. This value was chosen to
> prevent a poorly chosen value from dividing the address space in such
> a way as to prevent large allocations. This may not be an issue on all
> platforms. Allow the specification of a minimum number of bits so that
> platforms desiring greater ASLR protection may determine where to place
> the trade-off.

...

> diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
> index 4e949e5..141823f 100644
> --- a/arch/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/Kconfig
> @@ -511,6 +511,70 @@ config ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE
>  	  - arch_mmap_rnd()
>  	  - arch_randomize_brk()
>  
> +config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	bool
> +	help
> +	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports setting a variable
> +	  number of bits for use in establishing the base address for mmap
> +	  allocations and provides values for both:
> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +	int
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +	int
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
> +	int
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address" if EXPERT
> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT if ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT

Here you support a default which is separate from the minimum.

> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS

...
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address for compatible applications" if EXPERT
> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN

But here you don't.

Just forgot?

I'd like to have a default which is separate from the minimum. That way we can
have a default which is reasonably large, but allow it to be lowered easily if
anything breaks.

cheers

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* [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25  4:40     ` Michael Ellerman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Michael Ellerman @ 2015-11-25  4:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:20 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:

> From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>
> 
> ASLR currently only uses 8 bits to generate the random offset for the
> mmap base address on 32 bit architectures. This value was chosen to
> prevent a poorly chosen value from dividing the address space in such
> a way as to prevent large allocations. This may not be an issue on all
> platforms. Allow the specification of a minimum number of bits so that
> platforms desiring greater ASLR protection may determine where to place
> the trade-off.

...

> diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
> index 4e949e5..141823f 100644
> --- a/arch/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/Kconfig
> @@ -511,6 +511,70 @@ config ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE
>  	  - arch_mmap_rnd()
>  	  - arch_randomize_brk()
>  
> +config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	bool
> +	help
> +	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports setting a variable
> +	  number of bits for use in establishing the base address for mmap
> +	  allocations and provides values for both:
> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +	int
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +	int
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
> +	int
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address" if EXPERT
> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT if ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT

Here you support a default which is separate from the minimum.

> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
> +	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS

...
> +
> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address for compatible applications" if EXPERT
> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN

But here you don't.

Just forgot?

I'd like to have a default which is separate from the minimum. That way we can
have a default which is reasonably large, but allow it to be lowered easily if
anything breaks.

cheers

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-23 18:55           ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25 12:06             ` Catalin Marinas
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Catalin Marinas @ 2015-11-25 12:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: Will Deacon, dcashman, linux-doc, linux-mm, hpa, mingo, aarcange,
	linux, corbet, xypron.glpk, x86, hecmargi, mgorman, rientjes, bp,
	nnk, dzickus, keescook, jpoimboe, tglx, n-horiguchi,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, salyzyn, ebiederm, jeffv, akpm,
	kirill.shutemov

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55:16AM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> >> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> >> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39

Where is ARCH_VA_BITS defined? We only have options like
ARM64_VA_BITS_39.

BTW, we no longer allow the 64K pages and 39-bit VA combination.

> >> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> >> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> >> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> >> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> >> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> >> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> >> +       default 19
> >> +
> >> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> >> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> >> +       default 11
> > 
> > FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
> > be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
> > all open-coded like this.
> 
> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
> setup we have a combinatorial problem.

For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?

-- 
Catalin

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-25 12:06             ` Catalin Marinas
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Catalin Marinas @ 2015-11-25 12:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: Will Deacon, dcashman, linux-doc, linux-mm, hpa, mingo, aarcange,
	linux, corbet, xypron.glpk, x86, hecmargi, mgorman, rientjes, bp,
	nnk, dzickus, keescook, jpoimboe, tglx, n-horiguchi,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, salyzyn, ebiederm, jeffv, akpm,
	kirill.shutemov

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55:16AM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> >> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> >> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39

Where is ARCH_VA_BITS defined? We only have options like
ARM64_VA_BITS_39.

BTW, we no longer allow the 64K pages and 39-bit VA combination.

> >> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> >> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> >> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> >> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> >> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> >> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> >> +       default 19
> >> +
> >> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> >> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> >> +       default 11
> > 
> > FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
> > be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
> > all open-coded like this.
> 
> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
> setup we have a combinatorial problem.

For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?

-- 
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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-25 12:06             ` Catalin Marinas
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Catalin Marinas @ 2015-11-25 12:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55:16AM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> >> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
> >> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39

Where is ARCH_VA_BITS defined? We only have options like
ARM64_VA_BITS_39.

BTW, we no longer allow the 64K pages and 39-bit VA combination.

> >> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> >> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> >> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
> >> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> >> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
> >> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> >> +       default 19
> >> +
> >> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> >> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
> >> +       default 11
> > 
> > FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
> > be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
> > all open-coded like this.
> 
> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
> setup we have a combinatorial problem.

For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?

-- 
Catalin

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
  2015-11-25  0:39   ` Andrew Morton
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25 19:07     ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon,
	hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman, Ralf Baechle,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Heiko Carstens, Martin Schwidefsky

On 11/24/2015 04:39 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:

> mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
> special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
> it up and testing it?

I had not yet looked at those at all, as I had no way to do even a
rudimentary "does it boot" test and opted to post v3 first.  Upon first
glance, it should just be a matter of wiring it up:

Mips is divided into 12/16 bits for 32/64 bit (assume baseline 4k page)
w/COMPAT kconfig,  powerpc is 11/18 w/COMPAT, s390 is 11/11 w/COMPAT.
s390 is a bit strange as COMPAT is for a 31-bit address space, although
is_32bit_task() is used to determine which mask to use, and the mask
itself for 64-bit only introduces 11 bits of entropy, but while still
affecting larger chunks of the address space (mask is 0x3ff80, resulting
in an effective 0x7ff shift of PAGE_SIZE + 7 bits).

I could go ahead and add these to patchset v4 and as with the previous
architectures, rely on feedback from arch-specific maintainers to help
tune and test the values.

-Dan

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-25 19:07     ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon,
	hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman, Ralf Baechle,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Heiko Carstens, Martin Schwidefsky

On 11/24/2015 04:39 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:

> mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
> special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
> it up and testing it?

I had not yet looked at those at all, as I had no way to do even a
rudimentary "does it boot" test and opted to post v3 first.  Upon first
glance, it should just be a matter of wiring it up:

Mips is divided into 12/16 bits for 32/64 bit (assume baseline 4k page)
w/COMPAT kconfig,  powerpc is 11/18 w/COMPAT, s390 is 11/11 w/COMPAT.
s390 is a bit strange as COMPAT is for a 31-bit address space, although
is_32bit_task() is used to determine which mask to use, and the mask
itself for 64-bit only introduces 11 bits of entropy, but while still
affecting larger chunks of the address space (mask is 0x3ff80, resulting
in an effective 0x7ff shift of PAGE_SIZE + 7 bits).

I could go ahead and add these to patchset v4 and as with the previous
architectures, rely on feedback from arch-specific maintainers to help
tune and test the values.

-Dan

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* [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-25 19:07     ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 11/24/2015 04:39 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:

> mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
> special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
> it up and testing it?

I had not yet looked at those at all, as I had no way to do even a
rudimentary "does it boot" test and opted to post v3 first.  Upon first
glance, it should just be a matter of wiring it up:

Mips is divided into 12/16 bits for 32/64 bit (assume baseline 4k page)
w/COMPAT kconfig,  powerpc is 11/18 w/COMPAT, s390 is 11/11 w/COMPAT.
s390 is a bit strange as COMPAT is for a 31-bit address space, although
is_32bit_task() is used to determine which mask to use, and the mask
itself for 64-bit only introduces 11 bits of entropy, but while still
affecting larger chunks of the address space (mask is 0x3ff80, resulting
in an effective 0x7ff shift of PAGE_SIZE + 7 bits).

I could go ahead and add these to patchset v4 and as with the previous
architectures, rely on feedback from arch-specific maintainers to help
tune and test the values.

-Dan

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  2015-11-25  0:47       ` Kees Cook
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25 19:16         ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kees Cook, Andrew Morton
  Cc: LKML, Russell King - ARM Linux, Ingo Molnar, linux-arm-kernel,
	Jonathan Corbet, Don Zickus, Eric W. Biederman,
	Heinrich Schuchardt, jpoimboe, Kirill A. Shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	Andrea Arcangeli, Mel Gorman, Thomas Gleixner, David Rientjes,
	Linux-MM, linux-doc, Mark Salyzyn, Jeffrey Vander Stoep,
	Nick Kralevich, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, H. Peter Anvin,
	x86, Hector Marco, Borislav Petkov, Daniel Cashman

On 11/24/2015 04:47 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Morton
> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:05 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:
>>
>>> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
>>> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>>>               .mode           = 0644,
>>>               .proc_handler   = proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>>>       },
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>>> +     {
>>> +             .procname       = "mmap_rnd_bits",
>>> +             .data           = &mmap_rnd_bits,
>>> +             .maxlen         = sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
>>> +             .mode           = 0644,
>>
>> Is there any harm in permitting the attacker to read these values?
>>
>> And is there any benefit in permitting non-attackers to read them?
> 
> I'm on the fence. Things like kernel/randomize_va_space is 644. But
> since I don't see a benefit in exposing them, let's make them all 600
> instead -- it's a new interface, better to keep it narrower now.

Is there any harm in allowing the attacker to read these values? Nothing
immediately comes to mind.  It is a form of information leakage, and I
guess a local attacker could use this information to calibrate an attack
or decide whether or not brute-forcing is a worthy approach, but this
easily could be leaked in other ways as well.

Is there a benefit to allowing non-attackers to read them?  Possibly
could be used in tests seeking to verify the system environment, but
again, this could be discovered in other ways.

I like Kees' suggestion of starting narrow and granting if need arises.

>>>
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
>>> +#endif
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
>>
>> These could be __read_mostly.
>>
>> If one believes in such things.  One effect of __read_mostly is to
>> clump the write-often stuff into the same cachelines and I've never
>> been convinced that one outweighs the other...
> 
> The _min and _max values should be const, actually, since they're
> build-time selected. The _bits could easily be __read_mostly, yeah.

Yes, one would generally expect these to never be touched, and even if
they were, the threshold of __read_mostly would certainly be crossed.

-Dan


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25 19:16         ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kees Cook, Andrew Morton
  Cc: LKML, Russell King - ARM Linux, Ingo Molnar, linux-arm-kernel,
	Jonathan Corbet, Don Zickus, Eric W. Biederman,
	Heinrich Schuchardt, jpoimboe, Kirill A. Shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	Andrea Arcangeli, Mel Gorman, Thomas Gleixner, David Rientjes,
	Linux-MM, linux-doc, Mark Salyzyn, Jeffrey Vander Stoep,
	Nick Kralevich, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, H. Peter Anvin,
	x86, Hector Marco, Borislav Petkov, Daniel Cashman

On 11/24/2015 04:47 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Morton
> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:05 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:
>>
>>> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
>>> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>>>               .mode           = 0644,
>>>               .proc_handler   = proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>>>       },
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>>> +     {
>>> +             .procname       = "mmap_rnd_bits",
>>> +             .data           = &mmap_rnd_bits,
>>> +             .maxlen         = sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
>>> +             .mode           = 0644,
>>
>> Is there any harm in permitting the attacker to read these values?
>>
>> And is there any benefit in permitting non-attackers to read them?
> 
> I'm on the fence. Things like kernel/randomize_va_space is 644. But
> since I don't see a benefit in exposing them, let's make them all 600
> instead -- it's a new interface, better to keep it narrower now.

Is there any harm in allowing the attacker to read these values? Nothing
immediately comes to mind.  It is a form of information leakage, and I
guess a local attacker could use this information to calibrate an attack
or decide whether or not brute-forcing is a worthy approach, but this
easily could be leaked in other ways as well.

Is there a benefit to allowing non-attackers to read them?  Possibly
could be used in tests seeking to verify the system environment, but
again, this could be discovered in other ways.

I like Kees' suggestion of starting narrow and granting if need arises.

>>>
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
>>> +#endif
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
>>
>> These could be __read_mostly.
>>
>> If one believes in such things.  One effect of __read_mostly is to
>> clump the write-often stuff into the same cachelines and I've never
>> been convinced that one outweighs the other...
> 
> The _min and _max values should be const, actually, since they're
> build-time selected. The _bits could easily be __read_mostly, yeah.

Yes, one would generally expect these to never be touched, and even if
they were, the threshold of __read_mostly would certainly be crossed.

-Dan

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* [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25 19:16         ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 11/24/2015 04:47 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Morton
> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:05 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:
>>
>>> --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
>>> @@ -1568,6 +1568,28 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
>>>               .mode           = 0644,
>>>               .proc_handler   = proc_doulongvec_minmax,
>>>       },
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>>> +     {
>>> +             .procname       = "mmap_rnd_bits",
>>> +             .data           = &mmap_rnd_bits,
>>> +             .maxlen         = sizeof(mmap_rnd_bits),
>>> +             .mode           = 0644,
>>
>> Is there any harm in permitting the attacker to read these values?
>>
>> And is there any benefit in permitting non-attackers to read them?
> 
> I'm on the fence. Things like kernel/randomize_va_space is 644. But
> since I don't see a benefit in exposing them, let's make them all 600
> instead -- it's a new interface, better to keep it narrower now.

Is there any harm in allowing the attacker to read these values? Nothing
immediately comes to mind.  It is a form of information leakage, and I
guess a local attacker could use this information to calibrate an attack
or decide whether or not brute-forcing is a worthy approach, but this
easily could be leaked in other ways as well.

Is there a benefit to allowing non-attackers to read them?  Possibly
could be used in tests seeking to verify the system environment, but
again, this could be discovered in other ways.

I like Kees' suggestion of starting narrow and granting if need arises.

>>>
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS;
>>> +#endif
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_min = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits_max = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX;
>>> +int mmap_rnd_compat_bits = CONFIG_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS;
>>
>> These could be __read_mostly.
>>
>> If one believes in such things.  One effect of __read_mostly is to
>> clump the write-often stuff into the same cachelines and I've never
>> been convinced that one outweighs the other...
> 
> The _min and _max values should be const, actually, since they're
> build-time selected. The _bits could easily be __read_mostly, yeah.

Yes, one would generally expect these to never be touched, and even if
they were, the threshold of __read_mostly would certainly be crossed.

-Dan

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* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-25  4:26             ` Michael Ellerman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25 19:32               ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Ellerman, Will Deacon, akpm
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, hpa, x86,
	hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On 11/24/2015 08:26 PM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 10:55 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>>>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 19
>>>> +
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>>>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 11
>>>
>>> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
>>> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
>>> all open-coded like this.
>>
>> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
>> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
>> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
>> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
>> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
>>
>> We could move this logic into the code where min/max are initialized,
>> but that would create its own mess, creating new Kconfig values to
>> introduce it in an arch-agnostic way after patch-set v2 moved that to
>> mm/mmap.c instead of arch/${arch}/mm/mmap.c Suggestions welcome.
> 
> 
> Could we instead change the meaning of the mmap_rnd_bits value to be the number
> of address space bits that may be randomised?
> 
> ie. 40 would mean "please randomise in a 1T range", which with PAGE_SIZE=4K
> gives you 28 random bits. etc.
> 
> That would make the value independent of PAGE_SIZE, and only depend on the size
> of the address space.
> 
> It would also mean the values userspace sets and sees don't need to change if the
> kernel PAGE_SIZE changes. (which probably doesn't happen often but still)

This is an intriguing idea. It might actually be more meaningful to a
sysadmin when weighing how high they're willing to go, since it makes
the relation to the address space overall more apparent.  Though the
cost would be more obvious, the benefit would become less-so, as the
amount of entropy used, and thus expected brute-force requirements would
be hidden.  I'll defer to Andrew Morton, as the maintainer, to make this
decision as I think both approaches are valid.

Thank You,
Dan


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* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-25 19:32               ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Ellerman, Will Deacon, akpm
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, hpa, x86,
	hecmargi, bp, dcashman

On 11/24/2015 08:26 PM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 10:55 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>>>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 19
>>>> +
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>>>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 11
>>>
>>> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
>>> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
>>> all open-coded like this.
>>
>> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
>> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
>> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
>> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
>> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
>>
>> We could move this logic into the code where min/max are initialized,
>> but that would create its own mess, creating new Kconfig values to
>> introduce it in an arch-agnostic way after patch-set v2 moved that to
>> mm/mmap.c instead of arch/${arch}/mm/mmap.c Suggestions welcome.
> 
> 
> Could we instead change the meaning of the mmap_rnd_bits value to be the number
> of address space bits that may be randomised?
> 
> ie. 40 would mean "please randomise in a 1T range", which with PAGE_SIZE=4K
> gives you 28 random bits. etc.
> 
> That would make the value independent of PAGE_SIZE, and only depend on the size
> of the address space.
> 
> It would also mean the values userspace sets and sees don't need to change if the
> kernel PAGE_SIZE changes. (which probably doesn't happen often but still)

This is an intriguing idea. It might actually be more meaningful to a
sysadmin when weighing how high they're willing to go, since it makes
the relation to the address space overall more apparent.  Though the
cost would be more obvious, the benefit would become less-so, as the
amount of entropy used, and thus expected brute-force requirements would
be hidden.  I'll defer to Andrew Morton, as the maintainer, to make this
decision as I think both approaches are valid.

Thank You,
Dan

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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-25 19:32               ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 11/24/2015 08:26 PM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 10:55 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>>>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 19
>>>> +
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>>>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 11
>>>
>>> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
>>> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
>>> all open-coded like this.
>>
>> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
>> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
>> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
>> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
>> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
>>
>> We could move this logic into the code where min/max are initialized,
>> but that would create its own mess, creating new Kconfig values to
>> introduce it in an arch-agnostic way after patch-set v2 moved that to
>> mm/mmap.c instead of arch/${arch}/mm/mmap.c Suggestions welcome.
> 
> 
> Could we instead change the meaning of the mmap_rnd_bits value to be the number
> of address space bits that may be randomised?
> 
> ie. 40 would mean "please randomise in a 1T range", which with PAGE_SIZE=4K
> gives you 28 random bits. etc.
> 
> That would make the value independent of PAGE_SIZE, and only depend on the size
> of the address space.
> 
> It would also mean the values userspace sets and sees don't need to change if the
> kernel PAGE_SIZE changes. (which probably doesn't happen often but still)

This is an intriguing idea. It might actually be more meaningful to a
sysadmin when weighing how high they're willing to go, since it makes
the relation to the address space overall more apparent.  Though the
cost would be more obvious, the benefit would become less-so, as the
amount of entropy used, and thus expected brute-force requirements would
be hidden.  I'll defer to Andrew Morton, as the maintainer, to make this
decision as I think both approaches are valid.

Thank You,
Dan

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
  2015-11-25  4:40     ` Michael Ellerman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25 19:36       ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Ellerman, linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

On 11/24/2015 08:40 PM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:20 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> 
>> From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>
>>
>> ASLR currently only uses 8 bits to generate the random offset for the
>> mmap base address on 32 bit architectures. This value was chosen to
>> prevent a poorly chosen value from dividing the address space in such
>> a way as to prevent large allocations. This may not be an issue on all
>> platforms. Allow the specification of a minimum number of bits so that
>> platforms desiring greater ASLR protection may determine where to place
>> the trade-off.
> 
> ...
> 
>> diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
>> index 4e949e5..141823f 100644
>> --- a/arch/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/Kconfig
>> @@ -511,6 +511,70 @@ config ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE
>>  	  - arch_mmap_rnd()
>>  	  - arch_randomize_brk()
>>  
>> +config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +	bool
>> +	help
>> +	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports setting a variable
>> +	  number of bits for use in establishing the base address for mmap
>> +	  allocations and provides values for both:
>> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
>> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
>> +	int
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +	int
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
>> +	int
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address" if EXPERT
>> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT if ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
> 
> Here you support a default which is separate from the minimum.
> 
>> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
>> +	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> 
> ...
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address for compatible applications" if EXPERT
>> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
>> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> 
> But here you don't.
> 
> Just forgot?

Yes.  Good catch.

> I'd like to have a default which is separate from the minimum. That way we can
> have a default which is reasonably large, but allow it to be lowered easily if
> anything breaks.

Will add it, along w/the documentation cleanup and other changes.

Thank You,
Dan

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25 19:36       ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Ellerman, linux-kernel
  Cc: linux, akpm, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus,
	ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi,
	aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn,
	jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp,
	dcashman

On 11/24/2015 08:40 PM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:20 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> 
>> From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>
>>
>> ASLR currently only uses 8 bits to generate the random offset for the
>> mmap base address on 32 bit architectures. This value was chosen to
>> prevent a poorly chosen value from dividing the address space in such
>> a way as to prevent large allocations. This may not be an issue on all
>> platforms. Allow the specification of a minimum number of bits so that
>> platforms desiring greater ASLR protection may determine where to place
>> the trade-off.
> 
> ...
> 
>> diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
>> index 4e949e5..141823f 100644
>> --- a/arch/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/Kconfig
>> @@ -511,6 +511,70 @@ config ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE
>>  	  - arch_mmap_rnd()
>>  	  - arch_randomize_brk()
>>  
>> +config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +	bool
>> +	help
>> +	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports setting a variable
>> +	  number of bits for use in establishing the base address for mmap
>> +	  allocations and provides values for both:
>> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
>> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
>> +	int
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +	int
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
>> +	int
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address" if EXPERT
>> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT if ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
> 
> Here you support a default which is separate from the minimum.
> 
>> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
>> +	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> 
> ...
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address for compatible applications" if EXPERT
>> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
>> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> 
> But here you don't.
> 
> Just forgot?

Yes.  Good catch.

> I'd like to have a default which is separate from the minimum. That way we can
> have a default which is reasonably large, but allow it to be lowered easily if
> anything breaks.

Will add it, along w/the documentation cleanup and other changes.

Thank You,
Dan

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* [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: mmap: Add new /proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR.
@ 2015-11-25 19:36       ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 11/24/2015 08:40 PM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:20 -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
> 
>> From: dcashman <dcashman@google.com>
>>
>> ASLR currently only uses 8 bits to generate the random offset for the
>> mmap base address on 32 bit architectures. This value was chosen to
>> prevent a poorly chosen value from dividing the address space in such
>> a way as to prevent large allocations. This may not be an issue on all
>> platforms. Allow the specification of a minimum number of bits so that
>> platforms desiring greater ASLR protection may determine where to place
>> the trade-off.
> 
> ...
> 
>> diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
>> index 4e949e5..141823f 100644
>> --- a/arch/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/Kconfig
>> @@ -511,6 +511,70 @@ config ARCH_HAS_ELF_RANDOMIZE
>>  	  - arch_mmap_rnd()
>>  	  - arch_randomize_brk()
>>  
>> +config HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +	bool
>> +	help
>> +	  An arch should select this symbol if it supports setting a variable
>> +	  number of bits for use in establishing the base address for mmap
>> +	  allocations and provides values for both:
>> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
>> +	  - ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
>> +	int
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +	int
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
>> +	int
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
>> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address" if EXPERT
>> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT if ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_DEFAULT
> 
> Here you support a default which is separate from the minimum.
> 
>> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
>> +	depends on HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
> 
> ...
>> +
>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS
>> +	int "Number of bits to use for ASLR of mmap base address for compatible applications" if EXPERT
>> +	range ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
>> +	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
> 
> But here you don't.
> 
> Just forgot?

Yes.  Good catch.

> I'd like to have a default which is separate from the minimum. That way we can
> have a default which is reasonably large, but allow it to be lowered easily if
> anything breaks.

Will add it, along w/the documentation cleanup and other changes.

Thank You,
Dan

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* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-25 12:06             ` Catalin Marinas
  (?)
@ 2015-11-25 20:39               ` Daniel Cashman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Catalin Marinas
  Cc: Will Deacon, dcashman, linux-doc, linux-mm, hpa, mingo, aarcange,
	linux, corbet, xypron.glpk, x86, hecmargi, mgorman, rientjes, bp,
	nnk, dzickus, keescook, jpoimboe, tglx, n-horiguchi,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, salyzyn, ebiederm, jeffv, akpm,
	kirill.shutemov

On 11/25/2015 04:06 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55:16AM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>>>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> 
> Where is ARCH_VA_BITS defined? We only have options like
> ARM64_VA_BITS_39.
> 
> BTW, we no longer allow the 64K pages and 39-bit VA combination.

It is not, and should have been ARM64_VA_BITS.  This stanza was meant to
mimic the one for ARM64_VA_BITS.  Thank you for pointing this, and the
39-bit combination out.

>>>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 19
>>>> +
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>>>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 11
>>>
>>> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
>>> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
>>> all open-coded like this.
>>
>> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
>> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
>> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
>> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
>> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
> 
> For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
> arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
> ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?

The general formula I used ended up being:
_max = floor(log(TASK_SIZE)) - log(PAGE_SIZE) - 3

which in the case of arm64 ended up being VA_BITS - PAGE_SHIFT - 3.
Aside: following this would actually put COMPAT_BITS_MAX at 17 for 4k
pages, rather than 16, but I left it at 16 to mirror what was put in
arch/arm/Kconfig.


Thank You,
Dan

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* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-25 20:39               ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Catalin Marinas
  Cc: Will Deacon, dcashman, linux-doc, linux-mm, hpa, mingo, aarcange,
	linux, corbet, xypron.glpk, x86, hecmargi, mgorman, rientjes, bp,
	nnk, dzickus, keescook, jpoimboe, tglx, n-horiguchi,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel, salyzyn, ebiederm, jeffv, akpm,
	kirill.shutemov

On 11/25/2015 04:06 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55:16AM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>>>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> 
> Where is ARCH_VA_BITS defined? We only have options like
> ARM64_VA_BITS_39.
> 
> BTW, we no longer allow the 64K pages and 39-bit VA combination.

It is not, and should have been ARM64_VA_BITS.  This stanza was meant to
mimic the one for ARM64_VA_BITS.  Thank you for pointing this, and the
39-bit combination out.

>>>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 19
>>>> +
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>>>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 11
>>>
>>> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
>>> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
>>> all open-coded like this.
>>
>> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
>> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
>> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
>> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
>> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
> 
> For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
> arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
> ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?

The general formula I used ended up being:
_max = floor(log(TASK_SIZE)) - log(PAGE_SIZE) - 3

which in the case of arm64 ended up being VA_BITS - PAGE_SHIFT - 3.
Aside: following this would actually put COMPAT_BITS_MAX at 17 for 4k
pages, rather than 16, but I left it at 16 to mirror what was put in
arch/arm/Kconfig.


Thank You,
Dan

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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-25 20:39               ` Daniel Cashman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Cashman @ 2015-11-25 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 11/25/2015 04:06 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55:16AM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>>>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
> 
> Where is ARCH_VA_BITS defined? We only have options like
> ARM64_VA_BITS_39.
> 
> BTW, we no longer allow the 64K pages and 39-bit VA combination.

It is not, and should have been ARM64_VA_BITS.  This stanza was meant to
mimic the one for ARM64_VA_BITS.  Thank you for pointing this, and the
39-bit combination out.

>>>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 19
>>>> +
>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>>>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>> +       default 11
>>>
>>> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
>>> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
>>> all open-coded like this.
>>
>> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
>> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
>> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
>> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
>> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
> 
> For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
> arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
> ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?

The general formula I used ended up being:
_max = floor(log(TASK_SIZE)) - log(PAGE_SIZE) - 3

which in the case of arm64 ended up being VA_BITS - PAGE_SHIFT - 3.
Aside: following this would actually put COMPAT_BITS_MAX at 17 for 4k
pages, rather than 16, but I left it at 16 to mirror what was put in
arch/arm/Kconfig.


Thank You,
Dan

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
  2015-11-25  0:39   ` Andrew Morton
  (?)
@ 2015-11-26  7:07     ` Michael Ellerman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Michael Ellerman @ 2015-11-26  7:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton, Daniel Cashman
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon,
	hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman, Ralf Baechle,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Heiko Carstens, Martin Schwidefsky

On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 16:39 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:04 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:
> > Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) provides a barrier to
> > exploitation of user-space processes in the presence of security
> > vulnerabilities by making it more difficult to find desired code/data
> > which could help an attack.  This is done by adding a random offset to the
> > location of regions in the process address space, with a greater range of
> > potential offset values corresponding to better protection/a larger
> > search-space for brute force, but also to greater potential for
> > fragmentation.
> 
> mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
> special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
> it up and testing it?

I had a quick stab at powerpc. It seems to work OK, though I've only tested on
64-bit 64K pages.

I'll update this when Daniel does a version which supports a DEFAULT for both
MIN values.

cheers

>From 7c42636d5df21203977900d283c722116f06310c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:40:00 +1100
Subject: [PATCH] powerpc/mm: Use ARCH_MMCAP_RND_BITS

Signed-off-by: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
---
 arch/powerpc/Kconfig   | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c | 12 +++++++-----
 2 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/powerpc/Kconfig b/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
index db49e0d796b1..e796d6c4055c 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
@@ -27,6 +27,36 @@ config MMU
 	bool
 	default y
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	# On 64-bit up to 1G of address space (2^30)
+	default 12 if 64BIT && PPC_256K_PAGES 	# 256K (2^18), = 30 - 18 = 12
+	default 14 if 64BIT && PPC_64K_PAGES  	# 64K  (2^16), = 30 - 16 = 14
+	default 16 if 64BIT && PPC_16K_PAGES  	# 16K  (2^14), = 30 - 14 = 16
+	default 18 if 64BIT			# 4K   (2^12), = 30 - 12 = 18
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	# On 64-bit up to 32T of address space (2^45)
+	default 27 if 64BIT && PPC_256K_PAGES   # 256K (2^18), = 45 - 18 = 27
+	default 29 if 64BIT && PPC_64K_PAGES    # 64K  (2^16), = 45 - 16 = 29
+	default 31 if 64BIT && PPC_16K_PAGES    # 16K  (2^14), = 45 - 14 = 31
+	default 33 if 64BIT			# 4K   (2^12), = 45 - 12 = 33
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	# Up to 8MB of address space (2^23)
+	default 5 if PPC_256K_PAGES             # 256K (2^18), = 23 - 18 = 5
+	default 7 if PPC_64K_PAGES              # 64K  (2^16), = 23 - 16 = 7
+	default 9 if PPC_16K_PAGES              # 16K  (2^14), = 23 - 14 = 9
+	default 11				# 4K   (2^12), = 23 - 12 = 11
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	# Up to 2G of address space (2^31)
+	default 13 if PPC_256K_PAGES            # 256K (2^18), = 31 - 18 = 13
+	default 15 if PPC_64K_PAGES             # 64K  (2^16), = 31 - 16 = 15
+	default 17 if PPC_16K_PAGES             # 16K  (2^14), = 31 - 14 = 17
+	default 19				# 4K   (2^12), = 31 - 12 = 19
+
 config HAVE_SETUP_PER_CPU_AREA
 	def_bool PPC64
 
@@ -160,6 +190,8 @@ config PPC
 	select EDAC_ATOMIC_SCRUB
 	select ARCH_HAS_DMA_SET_COHERENT_MASK
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
 
 config GENERIC_CSUM
 	def_bool CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c b/arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c
index 0f0502e12f6c..269f7bcd2702 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c
@@ -55,13 +55,15 @@ static inline int mmap_is_legacy(void)
 
 unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
-	unsigned long rnd;
+	unsigned long shift, rnd;
 
-	/* 8MB for 32bit, 1GB for 64bit */
+	shift = mmap_rnd_bits;
+#ifdef CONFIG_COMPAT
 	if (is_32bit_task())
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<(23-PAGE_SHIFT));
-	else
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<(30-PAGE_SHIFT));
+		shift = mmap_rnd_compat_bits;
+#endif
+
+	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << shift);
 
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
-- 
2.5.0



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* Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-26  7:07     ` Michael Ellerman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Michael Ellerman @ 2015-11-26  7:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton, Daniel Cashman
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo, linux-arm-kernel, corbet,
	dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk, jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov,
	n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx, rientjes, linux-mm,
	linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk, catalin.marinas, will.deacon,
	hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman, Ralf Baechle,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Heiko Carstens, Martin Schwidefsky

On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 16:39 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:04 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:
> > Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) provides a barrier to
> > exploitation of user-space processes in the presence of security
> > vulnerabilities by making it more difficult to find desired code/data
> > which could help an attack.  This is done by adding a random offset to the
> > location of regions in the process address space, with a greater range of
> > potential offset values corresponding to better protection/a larger
> > search-space for brute force, but also to greater potential for
> > fragmentation.
> 
> mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
> special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
> it up and testing it?

I had a quick stab at powerpc. It seems to work OK, though I've only tested on
64-bit 64K pages.

I'll update this when Daniel does a version which supports a DEFAULT for both
MIN values.

cheers

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-26  7:07     ` Michael Ellerman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Michael Ellerman @ 2015-11-26  7:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 16:39 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 15:20:04 -0800 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:
> > Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) provides a barrier to
> > exploitation of user-space processes in the presence of security
> > vulnerabilities by making it more difficult to find desired code/data
> > which could help an attack.  This is done by adding a random offset to the
> > location of regions in the process address space, with a greater range of
> > potential offset values corresponding to better protection/a larger
> > search-space for brute force, but also to greater potential for
> > fragmentation.
> 
> mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
> special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
> it up and testing it?

I had a quick stab at powerpc. It seems to work OK, though I've only tested on
64-bit 64K pages.

I'll update this when Daniel does a version which supports a DEFAULT for both
MIN values.

cheers

>From 7c42636d5df21203977900d283c722116f06310c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:40:00 +1100
Subject: [PATCH] powerpc/mm: Use ARCH_MMCAP_RND_BITS

Signed-off-by: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
---
 arch/powerpc/Kconfig   | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c | 12 +++++++-----
 2 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/powerpc/Kconfig b/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
index db49e0d796b1..e796d6c4055c 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
@@ -27,6 +27,36 @@ config MMU
 	bool
 	default y
 
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MIN
+	# On 64-bit up to 1G of address space (2^30)
+	default 12 if 64BIT && PPC_256K_PAGES 	# 256K (2^18), = 30 - 18 = 12
+	default 14 if 64BIT && PPC_64K_PAGES  	# 64K  (2^16), = 30 - 16 = 14
+	default 16 if 64BIT && PPC_16K_PAGES  	# 16K  (2^14), = 30 - 14 = 16
+	default 18 if 64BIT			# 4K   (2^12), = 30 - 12 = 18
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
+	# On 64-bit up to 32T of address space (2^45)
+	default 27 if 64BIT && PPC_256K_PAGES   # 256K (2^18), = 45 - 18 = 27
+	default 29 if 64BIT && PPC_64K_PAGES    # 64K  (2^16), = 45 - 16 = 29
+	default 31 if 64BIT && PPC_16K_PAGES    # 16K  (2^14), = 45 - 14 = 31
+	default 33 if 64BIT			# 4K   (2^12), = 45 - 12 = 33
+	default ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
+	# Up to 8MB of address space (2^23)
+	default 5 if PPC_256K_PAGES             # 256K (2^18), = 23 - 18 = 5
+	default 7 if PPC_64K_PAGES              # 64K  (2^16), = 23 - 16 = 7
+	default 9 if PPC_16K_PAGES              # 16K  (2^14), = 23 - 14 = 9
+	default 11				# 4K   (2^12), = 23 - 12 = 11
+
+config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MAX
+	# Up to 2G of address space (2^31)
+	default 13 if PPC_256K_PAGES            # 256K (2^18), = 31 - 18 = 13
+	default 15 if PPC_64K_PAGES             # 64K  (2^16), = 31 - 16 = 15
+	default 17 if PPC_16K_PAGES             # 16K  (2^14), = 31 - 14 = 17
+	default 19				# 4K   (2^12), = 31 - 12 = 19
+
 config HAVE_SETUP_PER_CPU_AREA
 	def_bool PPC64
 
@@ -160,6 +190,8 @@ config PPC
 	select EDAC_ATOMIC_SCRUB
 	select ARCH_HAS_DMA_SET_COHERENT_MASK
 	select HAVE_ARCH_SECCOMP_FILTER
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS
+	select HAVE_ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS if COMPAT
 
 config GENERIC_CSUM
 	def_bool CPU_LITTLE_ENDIAN
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c b/arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c
index 0f0502e12f6c..269f7bcd2702 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c
+++ b/arch/powerpc/mm/mmap.c
@@ -55,13 +55,15 @@ static inline int mmap_is_legacy(void)
 
 unsigned long arch_mmap_rnd(void)
 {
-	unsigned long rnd;
+	unsigned long shift, rnd;
 
-	/* 8MB for 32bit, 1GB for 64bit */
+	shift = mmap_rnd_bits;
+#ifdef CONFIG_COMPAT
 	if (is_32bit_task())
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<(23-PAGE_SHIFT));
-	else
-		rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1<<(30-PAGE_SHIFT));
+		shift = mmap_rnd_compat_bits;
+#endif
+
+	rnd = (unsigned long)get_random_int() % (1 << shift);
 
 	return rnd << PAGE_SHIFT;
 }
-- 
2.5.0

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* Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
  2015-11-25 19:07     ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-26 15:11       ` Martin Schwidefsky
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Martin Schwidefsky @ 2015-11-26 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo,
	linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk,
	jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx,
	rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk,
	catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman,
	Ralf Baechle, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Heiko Carstens

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:07:09 -0800
Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:

> On 11/24/2015 04:39 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
> > special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
> > it up and testing it?
> 
> I had not yet looked at those at all, as I had no way to do even a
> rudimentary "does it boot" test and opted to post v3 first.  Upon first
> glance, it should just be a matter of wiring it up:
> 
> Mips is divided into 12/16 bits for 32/64 bit (assume baseline 4k page)
> w/COMPAT kconfig,  powerpc is 11/18 w/COMPAT, s390 is 11/11 w/COMPAT.
> s390 is a bit strange as COMPAT is for a 31-bit address space, although
> is_32bit_task() is used to determine which mask to use, and the mask
> itself for 64-bit only introduces 11 bits of entropy, but while still
> affecting larger chunks of the address space (mask is 0x3ff80, resulting
> in an effective 0x7ff shift of PAGE_SIZE + 7 bits).

s390 uses a mmap randomization of 11 bits but applies it to different
bits dependent if the task is a compat task or not. From the machine
perspective we would like to always use the randomization bits for
normal, non-compat tasks. But as the 2GB address space for compat tasks
is really limited the randomization is applied in bits 2^12..2^22 for
compat tasks vs 2^19..2^29 for normal tasks at the cost of performance.
This has to do with the cache aliasing on z13.

By the way we will replace is_32bit_task with() is_compat_task(), I have
a patch from Heiko pending for that.

-- 
blue skies,
   Martin.

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.


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* Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-26 15:11       ` Martin Schwidefsky
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Martin Schwidefsky @ 2015-11-26 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, linux, keescook, mingo,
	linux-arm-kernel, corbet, dzickus, ebiederm, xypron.glpk,
	jpoimboe, kirill.shutemov, n-horiguchi, aarcange, mgorman, tglx,
	rientjes, linux-mm, linux-doc, salyzyn, jeffv, nnk,
	catalin.marinas, will.deacon, hpa, x86, hecmargi, bp, dcashman,
	Ralf Baechle, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Heiko Carstens

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:07:09 -0800
Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:

> On 11/24/2015 04:39 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
> > special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
> > it up and testing it?
> 
> I had not yet looked at those at all, as I had no way to do even a
> rudimentary "does it boot" test and opted to post v3 first.  Upon first
> glance, it should just be a matter of wiring it up:
> 
> Mips is divided into 12/16 bits for 32/64 bit (assume baseline 4k page)
> w/COMPAT kconfig,  powerpc is 11/18 w/COMPAT, s390 is 11/11 w/COMPAT.
> s390 is a bit strange as COMPAT is for a 31-bit address space, although
> is_32bit_task() is used to determine which mask to use, and the mask
> itself for 64-bit only introduces 11 bits of entropy, but while still
> affecting larger chunks of the address space (mask is 0x3ff80, resulting
> in an effective 0x7ff shift of PAGE_SIZE + 7 bits).

s390 uses a mmap randomization of 11 bits but applies it to different
bits dependent if the task is a compat task or not. From the machine
perspective we would like to always use the randomization bits for
normal, non-compat tasks. But as the 2GB address space for compat tasks
is really limited the randomization is applied in bits 2^12..2^22 for
compat tasks vs 2^19..2^29 for normal tasks at the cost of performance.
This has to do with the cache aliasing on z13.

By the way we will replace is_32bit_task with() is_compat_task(), I have
a patch from Heiko pending for that.

-- 
blue skies,
   Martin.

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.

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* [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address.
@ 2015-11-26 15:11       ` Martin Schwidefsky
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Martin Schwidefsky @ 2015-11-26 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:07:09 -0800
Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com> wrote:

> On 11/24/2015 04:39 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > mips, powerpc and s390 also implement arch_mmap_rnd().  Are there any
> > special considerations here, or it just a matter of maintainers wiring
> > it up and testing it?
> 
> I had not yet looked at those at all, as I had no way to do even a
> rudimentary "does it boot" test and opted to post v3 first.  Upon first
> glance, it should just be a matter of wiring it up:
> 
> Mips is divided into 12/16 bits for 32/64 bit (assume baseline 4k page)
> w/COMPAT kconfig,  powerpc is 11/18 w/COMPAT, s390 is 11/11 w/COMPAT.
> s390 is a bit strange as COMPAT is for a 31-bit address space, although
> is_32bit_task() is used to determine which mask to use, and the mask
> itself for 64-bit only introduces 11 bits of entropy, but while still
> affecting larger chunks of the address space (mask is 0x3ff80, resulting
> in an effective 0x7ff shift of PAGE_SIZE + 7 bits).

s390 uses a mmap randomization of 11 bits but applies it to different
bits dependent if the task is a compat task or not. From the machine
perspective we would like to always use the randomization bits for
normal, non-compat tasks. But as the 2GB address space for compat tasks
is really limited the randomization is applied in bits 2^12..2^22 for
compat tasks vs 2^19..2^29 for normal tasks at the cost of performance.
This has to do with the cache aliasing on z13.

By the way we will replace is_32bit_task with() is_compat_task(), I have
a patch from Heiko pending for that.

-- 
blue skies,
   Martin.

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-25 20:39               ` Daniel Cashman
  (?)
@ 2015-11-27  8:36                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Andrey Ryabinin @ 2015-11-27  8:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, dcashman, open list:DOCUMENTATION,
	linux-mm, H. Peter Anvin, mingo, aarcange, Russell King,
	Jonathan Corbet, xypron.glpk, x86, hecmargi, Mel Gorman,
	David Rientjes, Borislav Petkov, nnk, dzickus, Kees Cook,
	jpoimboe, Thomas Gleixner, Naoya Horiguchi, linux-arm-kernel,
	LKML, salyzyn, Eric W. Biederman, jeffv, Andrew Morton,
	Kirill A. Shutemov

2015-11-25 23:39 GMT+03:00 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com>:
> On 11/25/2015 04:06 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55:16AM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>>>>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>
>> Where is ARCH_VA_BITS defined? We only have options like
>> ARM64_VA_BITS_39.
>>
>> BTW, we no longer allow the 64K pages and 39-bit VA combination.
>
> It is not, and should have been ARM64_VA_BITS.  This stanza was meant to
> mimic the one for ARM64_VA_BITS.  Thank you for pointing this, and the
> 39-bit combination out.
>
>>>>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>>> +       default 19
>>>>> +
>>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>>>>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>>> +       default 11
>>>>
>>>> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
>>>> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
>>>> all open-coded like this.
>>>
>>> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
>>> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
>>> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
>>> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
>>> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
>>
>> For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
>> arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
>> ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?
>
> The general formula I used ended up being:
> _max = floor(log(TASK_SIZE)) - log(PAGE_SIZE) - 3
>

For kasan, we calculate KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in Makefile, because we need to use
that value in Makefiles.

For ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN/MAX I don't see a reason why it has
to be in Kconfig.
Can't we just use your formula to #define ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_*
in some arch header?

> which in the case of arm64 ended up being VA_BITS - PAGE_SHIFT - 3.
> Aside: following this would actually put COMPAT_BITS_MAX at 17 for 4k
> pages, rather than 16, but I left it at 16 to mirror what was put in
> arch/arm/Kconfig.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Dan
>

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-27  8:36                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Andrey Ryabinin @ 2015-11-27  8:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Cashman
  Cc: Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, dcashman, open list:DOCUMENTATION,
	linux-mm, H. Peter Anvin, mingo, aarcange, Russell King,
	Jonathan Corbet, xypron.glpk, x86, hecmargi, Mel Gorman,
	David Rientjes, Borislav Petkov, nnk, dzickus, Kees Cook,
	jpoimboe, Thomas Gleixner, Naoya Horiguchi, linux-arm-kernel,
	LKML, salyzyn, Eric W. Biederman, jeffv, Andrew Morton,
	Kirill A. Shutemov

2015-11-25 23:39 GMT+03:00 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com>:
> On 11/25/2015 04:06 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55:16AM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>>>>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>
>> Where is ARCH_VA_BITS defined? We only have options like
>> ARM64_VA_BITS_39.
>>
>> BTW, we no longer allow the 64K pages and 39-bit VA combination.
>
> It is not, and should have been ARM64_VA_BITS.  This stanza was meant to
> mimic the one for ARM64_VA_BITS.  Thank you for pointing this, and the
> 39-bit combination out.
>
>>>>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>>> +       default 19
>>>>> +
>>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>>>>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>>> +       default 11
>>>>
>>>> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
>>>> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
>>>> all open-coded like this.
>>>
>>> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
>>> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
>>> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
>>> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
>>> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
>>
>> For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
>> arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
>> ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?
>
> The general formula I used ended up being:
> _max = floor(log(TASK_SIZE)) - log(PAGE_SIZE) - 3
>

For kasan, we calculate KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in Makefile, because we need to use
that value in Makefiles.

For ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN/MAX I don't see a reason why it has
to be in Kconfig.
Can't we just use your formula to #define ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_*
in some arch header?

> which in the case of arm64 ended up being VA_BITS - PAGE_SHIFT - 3.
> Aside: following this would actually put COMPAT_BITS_MAX at 17 for 4k
> pages, rather than 16, but I left it at 16 to mirror what was put in
> arch/arm/Kconfig.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Dan
>

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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-27  8:36                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Andrey Ryabinin @ 2015-11-27  8:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

2015-11-25 23:39 GMT+03:00 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com>:
> On 11/25/2015 04:06 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:55:16AM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2015 07:04 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:20:07PM -0800, Daniel Cashman wrote:
>>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX
>>>>> +       default 20 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>
>> Where is ARCH_VA_BITS defined? We only have options like
>> ARM64_VA_BITS_39.
>>
>> BTW, we no longer allow the 64K pages and 39-bit VA combination.
>
> It is not, and should have been ARM64_VA_BITS.  This stanza was meant to
> mimic the one for ARM64_VA_BITS.  Thank you for pointing this, and the
> 39-bit combination out.
>
>>>>> +       default 24 if ARCH_VA_BITS=39
>>>>> +       default 23 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>>> +       default 27 if ARCH_VA_BITS=42
>>>>> +       default 29 if ARM64_64K_PAGES && ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>>> +       default 33 if ARCH_VA_BITS=48
>>>>> +       default 15 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>>> +       default 19
>>>>> +
>>>>> +config ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN
>>>>> +       default 7 if ARM64_64K_PAGES
>>>>> +       default 11
>>>>
>>>> FYI: we now support 16k pages too, so this might need updating. It would
>>>> be much nicer if this was somehow computed rather than have the results
>>>> all open-coded like this.
>>>
>>> Yes, I ideally wanted this to be calculated based on the different page
>>> options and VA_BITS (which itself has a similar stanza), but I don't
>>> know how to do that/if it is currently supported in Kconfig. This would
>>> be even more desirable with the addition of 16K_PAGES, as with this
>>> setup we have a combinatorial problem.
>>
>> For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
>> arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
>> ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?
>
> The general formula I used ended up being:
> _max = floor(log(TASK_SIZE)) - log(PAGE_SIZE) - 3
>

For kasan, we calculate KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in Makefile, because we need to use
that value in Makefiles.

For ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN/MAX I don't see a reason why it has
to be in Kconfig.
Can't we just use your formula to #define ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_*
in some arch header?

> which in the case of arm64 ended up being VA_BITS - PAGE_SHIFT - 3.
> Aside: following this would actually put COMPAT_BITS_MAX at 17 for 4k
> pages, rather than 16, but I left it at 16 to mirror what was put in
> arch/arm/Kconfig.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Dan
>

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
  2015-11-27  8:36                 ` Andrey Ryabinin
  (?)
@ 2015-11-27  9:32                   ` Catalin Marinas
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Catalin Marinas @ 2015-11-27  9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrey Ryabinin
  Cc: Daniel Cashman, open list:DOCUMENTATION, Will Deacon, linux-mm,
	H. Peter Anvin, mingo, aarcange, Russell King,
	Kirill A. Shutemov, Jonathan Corbet, xypron.glpk, x86, hecmargi,
	Mel Gorman, David Rientjes, Borislav Petkov, nnk, dzickus,
	Kees Cook, jpoimboe, Thomas Gleixner, Andrew Morton,
	linux-arm-kernel, LKML, salyzyn, Eric W. Biederman, jeffv,
	Naoya Horiguchi, dcashman

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 11:36:30AM +0300, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> 2015-11-25 23:39 GMT+03:00 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com>:
> > On 11/25/2015 04:06 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> >> For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
> >> arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
> >> ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?
> >
> > The general formula I used ended up being:
> > _max = floor(log(TASK_SIZE)) - log(PAGE_SIZE) - 3
> 
> For kasan, we calculate KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in Makefile, because we need to use
> that value in Makefiles.
> 
> For ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN/MAX I don't see a reason why it has
> to be in Kconfig.
> Can't we just use your formula to #define ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_*
> in some arch header?

Because there is another option, ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS depending on EXPERT
which uses the MIN/MAX range defined per architecture. Since it's an
expert feature, we could as well ignore the MIN/MAX in Kconfig and just
add BUILD_BUG_ON checks to the code. This way we could simply define
them in C files.

Alternatively, add arithmetics support to kbuild ;).

-- 
Catalin

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 72+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-27  9:32                   ` Catalin Marinas
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Catalin Marinas @ 2015-11-27  9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrey Ryabinin
  Cc: Daniel Cashman, open list:DOCUMENTATION, Will Deacon, linux-mm,
	H. Peter Anvin, mingo, aarcange, Russell King,
	Kirill A. Shutemov, Jonathan Corbet, xypron.glpk, x86, hecmargi,
	Mel Gorman, David Rientjes, Borislav Petkov, nnk, dzickus,
	Kees Cook, jpoimboe, Thomas Gleixner, Andrew Morton,
	linux-arm-kernel, LKML, salyzyn, Eric W. Biederman, jeffv,
	Naoya Horiguchi, dcashman

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 11:36:30AM +0300, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> 2015-11-25 23:39 GMT+03:00 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com>:
> > On 11/25/2015 04:06 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> >> For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
> >> arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
> >> ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?
> >
> > The general formula I used ended up being:
> > _max = floor(log(TASK_SIZE)) - log(PAGE_SIZE) - 3
> 
> For kasan, we calculate KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in Makefile, because we need to use
> that value in Makefiles.
> 
> For ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN/MAX I don't see a reason why it has
> to be in Kconfig.
> Can't we just use your formula to #define ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_*
> in some arch header?

Because there is another option, ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS depending on EXPERT
which uses the MIN/MAX range defined per architecture. Since it's an
expert feature, we could as well ignore the MIN/MAX in Kconfig and just
add BUILD_BUG_ON checks to the code. This way we could simply define
them in C files.

Alternatively, add arithmetics support to kbuild ;).

-- 
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* [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mm: support ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS.
@ 2015-11-27  9:32                   ` Catalin Marinas
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 72+ messages in thread
From: Catalin Marinas @ 2015-11-27  9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 11:36:30AM +0300, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> 2015-11-25 23:39 GMT+03:00 Daniel Cashman <dcashman@android.com>:
> > On 11/25/2015 04:06 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> >> For KASan, we ended up calculating KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in
> >> arch/arm64/Makefile. What would the formula be for the above
> >> ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS_MAX?
> >
> > The general formula I used ended up being:
> > _max = floor(log(TASK_SIZE)) - log(PAGE_SIZE) - 3
> 
> For kasan, we calculate KASAN_SHADOW_OFFSET in Makefile, because we need to use
> that value in Makefiles.
> 
> For ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_MIN/MAX I don't see a reason why it has
> to be in Kconfig.
> Can't we just use your formula to #define ARCH_MMAP_RND_COMPAT_BITS_*
> in some arch header?

Because there is another option, ARCH_MMAP_RND_BITS depending on EXPERT
which uses the MIN/MAX range defined per architecture. Since it's an
expert feature, we could as well ignore the MIN/MAX in Kconfig and just
add BUILD_BUG_ON checks to the code. This way we could simply define
them in C files.

Alternatively, add arithmetics support to kbuild ;).

-- 
Catalin

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2015-11-25  0:47     ` Kees Cook
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2015-11-25  0:47       ` Kees Cook
2015-11-25 19:16       ` Daniel Cashman
2015-11-25 19:16         ` Daniel Cashman
2015-11-25 19:16         ` Daniel Cashman
2015-11-25  4:40   ` Michael Ellerman
2015-11-25  4:40     ` Michael Ellerman
2015-11-25  4:40     ` Michael Ellerman
2015-11-25 19:36     ` Daniel Cashman
2015-11-25 19:36       ` Daniel Cashman
2015-11-25 19:36       ` Daniel Cashman
2015-11-25  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Allow customizable random offset to mmap_base address Andrew Morton
2015-11-25  0:39   ` Andrew Morton
2015-11-25  0:39   ` Andrew Morton
2015-11-25 19:07   ` Daniel Cashman
2015-11-25 19:07     ` Daniel Cashman
2015-11-25 19:07     ` Daniel Cashman
2015-11-26 15:11     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2015-11-26 15:11       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2015-11-26 15:11       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2015-11-26  7:07   ` Michael Ellerman
2015-11-26  7:07     ` Michael Ellerman
2015-11-26  7:07     ` Michael Ellerman

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