* using all channels of RME Babyface Pro in class compliant mode
@ 2015-12-10 6:30 Be
2015-12-10 8:21 ` Be
2015-12-10 8:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Be @ 2015-12-10 6:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alsa-devel
Hello, I just got an RME Babyface Pro USB sound card. It can operate
either as a USB audio class compliant device (with mixing controlled by
the device's physical controls) or make use of a proprietary driver on
Windows and Mac OS X. The proprietary driver allows for control of the
mixing capabilities of the device and using onboard DSP EQ. It would be
great if someone wrote a Linux driver to make use of these. I'd be happy
to send debugging info or whatever about the device and test kernel
patches. I could set up a Windows VM to intercept USB communication.
In the meantime, I am trying to use its class compliant mode to use with
Mixxx for DJing. However, I cannot figure out how to use channels 3-4
for my headphones. The device has 4 analog channels out and in plus 8
digital out and in (via ADAT). Its manual says, regarding class
compliant mode, "in Mac OS X, either the first two or all channels will
work, depending on the choice in the Audio MIDI Setup." I believe the
two channel operation exists so when the Babyface Pro is plugged into an
iPad, the iPad sends stereo output from iTunes and other programs to the
Babyface Pro's main output. However, I do not know how to select between
this 2 channel mode and the 12 channel mode with Linux. PulseAudio only
shows it as a stereo device. Mixxx, which uses the PortAudio library,
displays all 12 channels as available but doesn't work when any channels
other than 1-2 are selected. Here is debugging output of Mixxx:
Debug [Main]: SoundManager::setupDevices()
Debug [Main]: SoundDevicePortAudio::open() "2, Babyface Pro (70785713):
USB Audio (hw:1,0)"
Debug [Main]: framesPerBuffer: 256
Debug [Main]: Requested sample rate: 44100 Hz, latency: 5.80499 ms
Debug [Main]: Output channels: 4 | Input channels: 0
Debug [Main]: Opening stream with id 2
Expression 'alsa_snd_pcm_hw_params_set_channels( pcm, hwParams,
self->numHostChannels )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
line: 2051
Expression 'PaAlsaStreamComponent_InitialConfigure( &self->playback,
outParams, self->primeBuffers, hwParamsPlayback, &realSr )' failed in
'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 2717
Expression 'PaAlsaStream_Configure( stream, inputParameters,
outputParameters, sampleRate, framesPerBuffer, &inputLatency,
&outputLatency, &hostBufferSizeMode )' failed in
'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 2838
Warning [Main]: Error opening stream: Invalid number of channels
aplay -l output:
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC272 Analog [ALC272 Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Pro70785713 [Babyface Pro (70785713)], device 0: USB Audio [USB
Audio]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
aplay -L output:
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
pulse
PulseAudio Sound Server
default
Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server)
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
Front speakers
surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
HDMI Audio Output
sysdefault:CARD=Pro70785713
Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
Front speakers
surround21:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
/proc/asound/card1/stream0 when playing to channels 1-2 with PulseAudio:
RME Babyface Pro (70785713) at usb-0000:00:1d.0-1.2, high speed : USB Audio
Playback:
Status: Running
Interface = 1
Altset = 1
Packet Size = 47
Momentary freq = 44118 Hz (0x5.83c9)
Feedback Format = 16.16
Interface 1
Altset 1
Format: S24_3LE
Channels: 2
Endpoint: 3 OUT (ASYNC)
Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
Data packet interval: 125 us
Interface 1
Altset 2
Format: S24_3LE
Channels: 12
Endpoint: 3 OUT (ASYNC)
Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
Data packet interval: 125 us
Capture:
Status: Stop
Interface 2
Altset 1
Format: S24_3LE
Channels: 12
Endpoint: 4 IN (ASYNC)
Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
Data packet interval: 125 us
Interface 2
Altset 2
Format: S24_3LE
Channels: 2
Endpoint: 4 IN (ASYNC)
Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
Data packet interval: 125 us
So I guess the question is how to get PortAudio to use the "Altset 2"
option. Could this be accomplished with some asoundrc sorcery? Does
something need to change in snd-usb-audio? Is the issue with PortAudio
and PulseAudio? How can I test channels 3-4 with aplay or another program?
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* Re: using all channels of RME Babyface Pro in class compliant mode
2015-12-10 6:30 using all channels of RME Babyface Pro in class compliant mode Be
@ 2015-12-10 8:21 ` Be
2015-12-10 8:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Be @ 2015-12-10 8:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alsa-devel
I tested it with JACK and channels 3-4 work, but with a catch. JACK
works with hw:Pro70785713,0 but not hw:Pro70785713. So the issue either
with Mixxx or PortAudio not listing hw:Pro70785713,0 as an option with
the ALSA backend.
As a quick hack, can someone suggest an ~/.asoundrc to work around this?
I have tried various versions of the snippet below with no luck.
pcm.BabyfacePro {
type hw
card 1
device 0
}
On 12/10/2015 12:30 AM, Be wrote:
> Hello, I just got an RME Babyface Pro USB sound card. It can operate
> either as a USB audio class compliant device (with mixing controlled by
> the device's physical controls) or make use of a proprietary driver on
> Windows and Mac OS X. The proprietary driver allows for control of the
> mixing capabilities of the device and using onboard DSP EQ. It would be
> great if someone wrote a Linux driver to make use of these. I'd be happy
> to send debugging info or whatever about the device and test kernel
> patches. I could set up a Windows VM to intercept USB communication.
>
> In the meantime, I am trying to use its class compliant mode to use with
> Mixxx for DJing. However, I cannot figure out how to use channels 3-4
> for my headphones. The device has 4 analog channels out and in plus 8
> digital out and in (via ADAT). Its manual says, regarding class
> compliant mode, "in Mac OS X, either the first two or all channels will
> work, depending on the choice in the Audio MIDI Setup." I believe the
> two channel operation exists so when the Babyface Pro is plugged into an
> iPad, the iPad sends stereo output from iTunes and other programs to the
> Babyface Pro's main output. However, I do not know how to select between
> this 2 channel mode and the 12 channel mode with Linux. PulseAudio only
> shows it as a stereo device. Mixxx, which uses the PortAudio library,
> displays all 12 channels as available but doesn't work when any channels
> other than 1-2 are selected. Here is debugging output of Mixxx:
>
> Debug [Main]: SoundManager::setupDevices()
> Debug [Main]: SoundDevicePortAudio::open() "2, Babyface Pro (70785713):
> USB Audio (hw:1,0)"
> Debug [Main]: framesPerBuffer: 256
> Debug [Main]: Requested sample rate: 44100 Hz, latency: 5.80499 ms
> Debug [Main]: Output channels: 4 | Input channels: 0
> Debug [Main]: Opening stream with id 2
> Expression 'alsa_snd_pcm_hw_params_set_channels( pcm, hwParams,
> self->numHostChannels )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
> line: 2051
> Expression 'PaAlsaStreamComponent_InitialConfigure( &self->playback,
> outParams, self->primeBuffers, hwParamsPlayback, &realSr )' failed in
> 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 2717
> Expression 'PaAlsaStream_Configure( stream, inputParameters,
> outputParameters, sampleRate, framesPerBuffer, &inputLatency,
> &outputLatency, &hostBufferSizeMode )' failed in
> 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 2838
> Warning [Main]: Error opening stream: Invalid number of channels
>
> aplay -l output:
> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC272 Analog [ALC272 Analog]
> Subdevices: 1/1
> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
> Subdevices: 1/1
> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 1: Pro70785713 [Babyface Pro (70785713)], device 0: USB Audio [USB
> Audio]
> Subdevices: 1/1
> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>
> aplay -L output:
> null
> Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
> pulse
> PulseAudio Sound Server
> default
> Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server)
> sysdefault:CARD=PCH
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
> Default Audio Device
> front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
> Front speakers
> surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
> 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
> surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
> 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
> surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
> 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
> 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
> surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
> 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, ALC272 Analog
> 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
> hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
> HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
> HDMI Audio Output
> sysdefault:CARD=Pro70785713
> Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
> Default Audio Device
> front:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
> Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
> Front speakers
> surround21:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
> Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
> 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
> surround40:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
> Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
> 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
> surround41:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
> Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
> 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround50:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
> Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
> 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
> surround51:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
> Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
> 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround71:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
> Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
> 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
> iec958:CARD=Pro70785713,DEV=0
> Babyface Pro (70785713), USB Audio
> IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
>
> /proc/asound/card1/stream0 when playing to channels 1-2 with PulseAudio:
> RME Babyface Pro (70785713) at usb-0000:00:1d.0-1.2, high speed : USB Audio
>
> Playback:
> Status: Running
> Interface = 1
> Altset = 1
> Packet Size = 47
> Momentary freq = 44118 Hz (0x5.83c9)
> Feedback Format = 16.16
> Interface 1
> Altset 1
> Format: S24_3LE
> Channels: 2
> Endpoint: 3 OUT (ASYNC)
> Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
> Data packet interval: 125 us
> Interface 1
> Altset 2
> Format: S24_3LE
> Channels: 12
> Endpoint: 3 OUT (ASYNC)
> Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
> Data packet interval: 125 us
>
> Capture:
> Status: Stop
> Interface 2
> Altset 1
> Format: S24_3LE
> Channels: 12
> Endpoint: 4 IN (ASYNC)
> Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
> Data packet interval: 125 us
> Interface 2
> Altset 2
> Format: S24_3LE
> Channels: 2
> Endpoint: 4 IN (ASYNC)
> Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
> Data packet interval: 125 us
>
> So I guess the question is how to get PortAudio to use the "Altset 2"
> option. Could this be accomplished with some asoundrc sorcery? Does
> something need to change in snd-usb-audio? Is the issue with PortAudio
> and PulseAudio? How can I test channels 3-4 with aplay or another program?
> _______________________________________________
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* Re: using all channels of RME Babyface Pro in class compliant mode
2015-12-10 6:30 using all channels of RME Babyface Pro in class compliant mode Be
2015-12-10 8:21 ` Be
@ 2015-12-10 8:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2015-12-10 8:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Be, alsa-devel
Be wrote:
> /proc/asound/card1/stream0
> Playback:
> Channels: 2
> Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
> Channels: 12
> Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
> Capture:
> Channels: 12
> Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
> Channels: 2
> Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000
This device supports either two or twelve channels.
Tell your program to use twelve, not four, channels.
Regards,
Clemens
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