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From: Jon Hunter <jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
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	Thierry Reding
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 16/16] ARM64: tegra: select PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:40:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56714DA3.80707@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFpZoZZapqanFyUzT_jZ6DLBnGXOXEyDHosWpphAjzhy7A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>


On 16/12/15 09:47, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On 16 December 2015 at 10:40, Jon Hunter <jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Hi Ulf,
>>
>> On 15/12/15 19:54, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>> On 4 December 2015 at 15:57, Jon Hunter <jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> Enable PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS for tegra 64-bit devices. To ensure that devices
>>>> dependent upon a particular power-domain are only probed when that power
>>>> domain has been powered up, requires that PM is made mandatory for tegra
>>>> 64-bit devices and so select this option for tegra as well.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>> ---
>>>>  arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms | 2 ++
>>>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms b/arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms
>>>> index 9806324fa215..e0b5bd0aff0f 100644
>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms
>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms
>>>> @@ -93,6 +93,8 @@ config ARCH_TEGRA
>>>>         select GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS
>>>>         select HAVE_CLK
>>>>         select PINCTRL
>>>> +       select PM
>>>> +       select PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS
>>>
>>> If you still want to allow ARCH_TEGRA to run without PM, you should
>>> probably change to:
>>>
>>> select PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS if PM
>>
>> Per the changelog this is deliberate. If we allow !PM, then there is a
>> potential that you could probe a device when the power domain is not
>> powered on. I understand that some SoCs turn on all the power-domains
>> when !PM but this will not work for tegra because we don't register the
>> power domain until later in the boot and so we are relying upon probe
>> deferral to defer the probe of devices that use power-domains.
> 
> So what you are saying is that adding the PM domain support, will fix
> some devices to become successfully probed as they were broken before?

Not exactly. There is a legacy tegra_powergate_sequence_power_up() that
has been used to date to get around this. However, by migrating to GENPD
we really need to make PM mandatory, otherwise you could attempt to
probe a device in a power domain that is not powered. In other words,
you are probing blindly. I know some SoCs do this, but that does not
seem very robust.

Cheers
Jon
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From: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>, Vince Hsu <vinceh@nvidia.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 16/16] ARM64: tegra: select PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:40:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56714DA3.80707@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFpZoZZapqanFyUzT_jZ6DLBnGXOXEyDHosWpphAjzhy7A@mail.gmail.com>


On 16/12/15 09:47, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On 16 December 2015 at 10:40, Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com> wrote:
>> Hi Ulf,
>>
>> On 15/12/15 19:54, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>> On 4 December 2015 at 15:57, Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>>> Enable PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS for tegra 64-bit devices. To ensure that devices
>>>> dependent upon a particular power-domain are only probed when that power
>>>> domain has been powered up, requires that PM is made mandatory for tegra
>>>> 64-bit devices and so select this option for tegra as well.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms | 2 ++
>>>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms b/arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms
>>>> index 9806324fa215..e0b5bd0aff0f 100644
>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms
>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig.platforms
>>>> @@ -93,6 +93,8 @@ config ARCH_TEGRA
>>>>         select GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS
>>>>         select HAVE_CLK
>>>>         select PINCTRL
>>>> +       select PM
>>>> +       select PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS
>>>
>>> If you still want to allow ARCH_TEGRA to run without PM, you should
>>> probably change to:
>>>
>>> select PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS if PM
>>
>> Per the changelog this is deliberate. If we allow !PM, then there is a
>> potential that you could probe a device when the power domain is not
>> powered on. I understand that some SoCs turn on all the power-domains
>> when !PM but this will not work for tegra because we don't register the
>> power domain until later in the boot and so we are relying upon probe
>> deferral to defer the probe of devices that use power-domains.
> 
> So what you are saying is that adding the PM domain support, will fix
> some devices to become successfully probed as they were broken before?

Not exactly. There is a legacy tegra_powergate_sequence_power_up() that
has been used to date to get around this. However, by migrating to GENPD
we really need to make PM mandatory, otherwise you could attempt to
probe a device in a power domain that is not powered. In other words,
you are probing blindly. I know some SoCs do this, but that does not
seem very robust.

Cheers
Jon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-16 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-04 14:57 [PATCH V4 00/16] Add generic PM domain support for Tegra Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 01/16] reset: add of_reset_control_get_by_index() Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 02/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Add missing structure members to kernel-doc Jon Hunter
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-3-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25 13:20     ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-25 13:20       ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 03/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Fix sparse warning for tegra_pmc_init_tsense_reset Jon Hunter
2016-01-25 13:21   ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 04/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Remove debugfs entry on probe failure Jon Hunter
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-5-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25 13:25     ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-25 13:25       ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 05/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Avoid extra remapping of PMC registers Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 13:45   ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 16:35     ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 16:35       ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 17:24       ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 19:02         ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 19:02           ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 06/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Wait for powergate state to change Jon Hunter
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-7-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-14 14:01     ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 14:01       ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:06       ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-15  9:06         ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 07/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Remove non-existing power partitions for T210 Jon Hunter
2016-01-25 13:27   ` Thierry Reding
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 08/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Fix checking of valid partitions Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 14:11   ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:08     ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-15  9:08       ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 09/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Ensure partitions can be toggled on/off by PMC Jon Hunter
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-10-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-14 14:14     ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 14:14       ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:32       ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-15  9:32         ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 10/16] PM / Domains: Add function to remove a pm-domain Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 11/16] Documentation: DT: bindings: Update NVIDIA PMC for Tegra210 Jon Hunter
2015-12-06  0:31   ` Rob Herring
2015-12-07  9:54     ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-07  9:54       ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 12/16] Documentation: DT: bindings: Add power domain info for NVIDIA PMC Jon Hunter
     [not found]   ` <1449241037-22193-13-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-06  0:37     ` Rob Herring
2015-12-06  0:37       ` Rob Herring
2015-12-07  9:56       ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-07  9:56         ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 14:41     ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 14:41       ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:43       ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-15  9:43         ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-08 19:07   ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]     ` <7h4mfslpyd.fsf-1D3HCaltpLuhEniVeURVKkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 12:23       ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-09 12:23         ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]         ` <56681D53.9090600-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 12:33           ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-09 12:33             ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]             ` <56681F9A.6080200-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15  0:42               ` Kevin Hilman
2015-12-15  0:42                 ` Kevin Hilman
2015-12-15  0:34           ` Kevin Hilman
2015-12-15  0:34             ` Kevin Hilman
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 13/16] soc: tegra: pmc: Add generic PM domain support Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 14:39   ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-15  9:42     ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-15  9:42       ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]       ` <5698BF00.6090102-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 10:01         ` Lucas Stach
2016-01-15 10:01           ` Lucas Stach
2015-12-04 14:57 ` [PATCH V4 14/16] clk: tegra210: Add the APB2APE audio clock Jon Hunter
     [not found] ` <1449241037-22193-1-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-04 14:57   ` [PATCH V4 15/16] ARM64: tegra: Add audio PM domain device node for Tegra210 Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57     ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57   ` [PATCH V4 16/16] ARM64: tegra: select PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS Jon Hunter
2015-12-04 14:57     ` Jon Hunter
     [not found]     ` <1449241037-22193-17-git-send-email-jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 19:54       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-12-15 19:54         ` Ulf Hansson
     [not found]         ` <CAPDyKFrcuK4iCo7Tg1Q_XjB7Y-+=s-ax1vzK4UEu9FfPnuProw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-16  9:40           ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-16  9:40             ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-16  9:47             ` Ulf Hansson
     [not found]               ` <CAPDyKFpZoZZapqanFyUzT_jZ6DLBnGXOXEyDHosWpphAjzhy7A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-16 11:40                 ` Jon Hunter [this message]
2015-12-16 11:40                   ` Jon Hunter
2015-12-16 12:51                   ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-13 17:03       ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-13 17:03         ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-13 17:03         ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-13 20:43         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-13 20:43           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14  8:57           ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-14  8:57             ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-14  8:57             ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-14  9:21             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14  9:21               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14  9:21               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14 10:29               ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 10:29                 ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 10:29                 ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-14 11:11                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14 11:11                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-14 11:11                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-26 17:30                   ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-26 17:30                     ` Thierry Reding
2016-01-26 17:30                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20160126173001.GA11062-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 21:52                       ` Kevin Hilman
2016-01-26 21:52                         ` Kevin Hilman
2016-01-26 21:52                         ` Kevin Hilman
2016-01-14 17:16               ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 17:16                 ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-14 17:16                 ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-26 17:01                 ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-26 17:01                   ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-26 17:01                   ` Jon Hunter
2016-01-27  9:43                   ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-27  9:43                     ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-27  9:43                     ` Ulf Hansson

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