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From: Yakir Yang <ykk@rock-chips.com>
To: "Emil Velikov" <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>,
	"Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
Cc: David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Mark Yao <mark.yao@rock-chips.com>,
	Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ML dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-rockchip <linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>,
	LAKML <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Add Rockchip RGA support
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:17:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FA6438.7060508@rock-chips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACvgo52vL5_HQfgfnxRMzSJXYw-sWT3QozZaWswQXHr9-bwBSA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Emil & Heiko,


On 03/29/2016 05:35 AM, Emil Velikov wrote:
> On 28 March 2016 at 19:44, Heiko Stübner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
>> Am Montag, 28. März 2016, 13:21:02 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 22 March 2016 at 00:42, Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi Yakir,
>>>>
>>>> Am Montag, 21. März 2016, 20:17:46 schrieb Yakir Yang:
>>>>> On 03/21/2016 07:29 PM, Heiko Stübner wrote:
>>>>>> Am Montag, 21. März 2016, 17:28:38 schrieb Yakir Yang:
>>>>>>> This patch set would add the RGA direct rendering based 2d graphics
>>>>>>> acceleration module.
>>>>>> very cool to see that.
>>>>> ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch set is based on git repository below:
>>>>>>> git://people.freedesktop.org/~airlied/linux drm-next
>>>>>>> commit id: 568d7c764ae01f3706085ac8f0d8a8ac7e826bd7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the RGA driver is based on Exynos G2D driver, it only manages the
>>>>>>> command lists received from user, so user should make the command list
>>>>>>> to data and registers needed by operation to use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have prepared an userspace demo application for testing:
>>>>>>>     https://github.com/yakir-Yang/libdrm-rockchip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a rockchip libdrm library, and I have write a simple test case
>>>>>>> "rockchip_rga_test" that would test the below RGA features:
>>>>>>> - solid
>>>>>>> - copy
>>>>>>> - rotation
>>>>>>> - flip
>>>>>>> - window clip
>>>>>>> - dithering
>>>>>> Did you submit your libdrm changes as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Userspace-interfaces need to be stable so the other side must also get
>>>>>> accepted - even before the kernel change if I remember correctly.
>>>>> Got it, and I just saw exynos_fimg2d already landed at mainline libdrm.
>>>>> But I don't find the way to submit patches to libdrm, would you like
>>>>> share some helps here ;)
>>>> Looking at the libdrm sources on cgit.freedesktop.org, I did not find any
>>>> specific manual on submitting patches.
>>>>
>>>> But looking at the dri-list archive, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org is
>>>> the
>>>> right list and looking at the libdrm history it looks like Emil Velikov
>>>> <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> seems to be doing maintenance-stuff in libdrm.
>>>> And as a 3rd recipient, please also include the linux-rockchip list.
>>>>
>>>> @Emil, please shout if I read that wrong :-)
>>> You got it spot on Heiko. There are a few notes though...
>>>
>>> As one reuses the existing hardware/IP block, it would be better to
>>> avoid copy/pasting code around.
>>> Namely:
>>>   - (if possible) factor out the exynos g2d kernel functionality to a
>>> separate kernel module and wire up the rockhip (via dt ?) to use it
>>>   - factor out the g2d specifics out of exynos_drm.h (into
>>> exynos_g2d_drm.h perhaps ?) and make sure exynos_drm.h includes the
>>> new header
>> I think the IP blocks themself are quite different between Rockchip's RGA and
>> Samsung's g2d and I guess the similarities are more along the lines on how
>> that gets integrated into the respective drm driver and userspace.
>>

Yes, the hardware IP blocks is quite different. I just reference two things
from Exynos g2d code:
1. UAPI side: let userspace pass the detail mode tranform register setting
     to kernel directly, so we don't need to pass the rendering 
parameters to
     kernel, just simplify the ioctl parameters.

2. Kernel side: reference the cmdlist manager method. Two simply task: one
     for collecting the userspace register setting, another start 
rendering process.

> In this case, the exynos_g2d_drm.h seems like a good idea. As I'm
> obviously biased, it's better to check how others feel on the topic.

Do you mean that just create an exynos_g2d_drm.h, so both exynos_drm.h
and rockchip_drm.h could include them ? It's good to reuse code, but in this
case I thought it's better to keep both exist.

I have try to do that, split the common 'exynos_g2d_drm.h'. But I 
thought it may
caused some name confusion. For example, the drm rockchip code need call the
EXYNOS_G2D_SET_CMDLIST ioctl to send command list. This may like drm 
rockchip
is calling the Exynos G2D hardware, but actually it just the name conflict.

Actually the head file is much simple, just contained 60 lines.

So, is it okay not to split the head file, just keep the data structure 
define both
rockchip_drm.h and exynos_drm.h

>>>   - if neither of these are possible, then please ensure that the new
>>> header uses correct types (see the docs [1]), use MIT/X11 license (if
>>> possible) and link where upstream userspace is happy with the
>>> interface (ideally more than a simple test app like libdrm)
>>> These might sound like an overkill, although getting UAPI right and
>>> maintaining it forever forces us to do so.
>> As for a real-world usecase, maybe the armsoc xserver might be somewhat easy
>> to use. While the core changes I did are in the core project already, I'm
>> still keeping the actual Rockchip support separate [0] due to the not-yet-
>> resolved create_gem ioctl.
>>
>> Anyway, the armsoc xserver has some exa implementation hooks were I guess it
>> might be relatively easy to hook up soc-specific things.
>>
> Ouch the armsoc ddx... Last time I've checked it felt like a place
> where everyone is doing his own thing, with no actual reviews and/or
> maintainer. Iirc most/all of it's functionality was achievable with
> modesetting ddx (with or without glamor) ? I take it that things have
> changed and/or I misunderstood something ?

Yeah, previously I plan to add RGA support to Rockchip armsoc DDX, but
seems Mark start to work on modetestting, so I may need to switch to
follow him.

Anyway, for now I just use libdrm to package the RGA interfaces.

- Yakir

> Note: The above is not meant as bashing although it hell sure looks like one.
>
> Cheers
> Emil
>
>> [0] https://github.com/mmind/xf86-video-armsoc/tree/devel/rockchip
>>
>
>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Yakir Yang <ykk@rock-chips.com>
To: "Emil Velikov" <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>,
	"Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
Cc: devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ML dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-rockchip <linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	LAKML <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Add Rockchip RGA support
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:17:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FA6438.7060508@rock-chips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACvgo52vL5_HQfgfnxRMzSJXYw-sWT3QozZaWswQXHr9-bwBSA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Emil & Heiko,


On 03/29/2016 05:35 AM, Emil Velikov wrote:
> On 28 March 2016 at 19:44, Heiko Stübner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
>> Am Montag, 28. März 2016, 13:21:02 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 22 March 2016 at 00:42, Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi Yakir,
>>>>
>>>> Am Montag, 21. März 2016, 20:17:46 schrieb Yakir Yang:
>>>>> On 03/21/2016 07:29 PM, Heiko Stübner wrote:
>>>>>> Am Montag, 21. März 2016, 17:28:38 schrieb Yakir Yang:
>>>>>>> This patch set would add the RGA direct rendering based 2d graphics
>>>>>>> acceleration module.
>>>>>> very cool to see that.
>>>>> ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch set is based on git repository below:
>>>>>>> git://people.freedesktop.org/~airlied/linux drm-next
>>>>>>> commit id: 568d7c764ae01f3706085ac8f0d8a8ac7e826bd7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the RGA driver is based on Exynos G2D driver, it only manages the
>>>>>>> command lists received from user, so user should make the command list
>>>>>>> to data and registers needed by operation to use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have prepared an userspace demo application for testing:
>>>>>>>     https://github.com/yakir-Yang/libdrm-rockchip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a rockchip libdrm library, and I have write a simple test case
>>>>>>> "rockchip_rga_test" that would test the below RGA features:
>>>>>>> - solid
>>>>>>> - copy
>>>>>>> - rotation
>>>>>>> - flip
>>>>>>> - window clip
>>>>>>> - dithering
>>>>>> Did you submit your libdrm changes as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Userspace-interfaces need to be stable so the other side must also get
>>>>>> accepted - even before the kernel change if I remember correctly.
>>>>> Got it, and I just saw exynos_fimg2d already landed at mainline libdrm.
>>>>> But I don't find the way to submit patches to libdrm, would you like
>>>>> share some helps here ;)
>>>> Looking at the libdrm sources on cgit.freedesktop.org, I did not find any
>>>> specific manual on submitting patches.
>>>>
>>>> But looking at the dri-list archive, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org is
>>>> the
>>>> right list and looking at the libdrm history it looks like Emil Velikov
>>>> <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> seems to be doing maintenance-stuff in libdrm.
>>>> And as a 3rd recipient, please also include the linux-rockchip list.
>>>>
>>>> @Emil, please shout if I read that wrong :-)
>>> You got it spot on Heiko. There are a few notes though...
>>>
>>> As one reuses the existing hardware/IP block, it would be better to
>>> avoid copy/pasting code around.
>>> Namely:
>>>   - (if possible) factor out the exynos g2d kernel functionality to a
>>> separate kernel module and wire up the rockhip (via dt ?) to use it
>>>   - factor out the g2d specifics out of exynos_drm.h (into
>>> exynos_g2d_drm.h perhaps ?) and make sure exynos_drm.h includes the
>>> new header
>> I think the IP blocks themself are quite different between Rockchip's RGA and
>> Samsung's g2d and I guess the similarities are more along the lines on how
>> that gets integrated into the respective drm driver and userspace.
>>

Yes, the hardware IP blocks is quite different. I just reference two things
from Exynos g2d code:
1. UAPI side: let userspace pass the detail mode tranform register setting
     to kernel directly, so we don't need to pass the rendering 
parameters to
     kernel, just simplify the ioctl parameters.

2. Kernel side: reference the cmdlist manager method. Two simply task: one
     for collecting the userspace register setting, another start 
rendering process.

> In this case, the exynos_g2d_drm.h seems like a good idea. As I'm
> obviously biased, it's better to check how others feel on the topic.

Do you mean that just create an exynos_g2d_drm.h, so both exynos_drm.h
and rockchip_drm.h could include them ? It's good to reuse code, but in this
case I thought it's better to keep both exist.

I have try to do that, split the common 'exynos_g2d_drm.h'. But I 
thought it may
caused some name confusion. For example, the drm rockchip code need call the
EXYNOS_G2D_SET_CMDLIST ioctl to send command list. This may like drm 
rockchip
is calling the Exynos G2D hardware, but actually it just the name conflict.

Actually the head file is much simple, just contained 60 lines.

So, is it okay not to split the head file, just keep the data structure 
define both
rockchip_drm.h and exynos_drm.h

>>>   - if neither of these are possible, then please ensure that the new
>>> header uses correct types (see the docs [1]), use MIT/X11 license (if
>>> possible) and link where upstream userspace is happy with the
>>> interface (ideally more than a simple test app like libdrm)
>>> These might sound like an overkill, although getting UAPI right and
>>> maintaining it forever forces us to do so.
>> As for a real-world usecase, maybe the armsoc xserver might be somewhat easy
>> to use. While the core changes I did are in the core project already, I'm
>> still keeping the actual Rockchip support separate [0] due to the not-yet-
>> resolved create_gem ioctl.
>>
>> Anyway, the armsoc xserver has some exa implementation hooks were I guess it
>> might be relatively easy to hook up soc-specific things.
>>
> Ouch the armsoc ddx... Last time I've checked it felt like a place
> where everyone is doing his own thing, with no actual reviews and/or
> maintainer. Iirc most/all of it's functionality was achievable with
> modesetting ddx (with or without glamor) ? I take it that things have
> changed and/or I misunderstood something ?

Yeah, previously I plan to add RGA support to Rockchip armsoc DDX, but
seems Mark start to work on modetestting, so I may need to switch to
follow him.

Anyway, for now I just use libdrm to package the RGA interfaces.

- Yakir

> Note: The above is not meant as bashing although it hell sure looks like one.
>
> Cheers
> Emil
>
>> [0] https://github.com/mmind/xf86-video-armsoc/tree/devel/rockchip
>>
>
>


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From: ykk@rock-chips.com (Yakir Yang)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Add Rockchip RGA support
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:17:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FA6438.7060508@rock-chips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACvgo52vL5_HQfgfnxRMzSJXYw-sWT3QozZaWswQXHr9-bwBSA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Emil & Heiko,


On 03/29/2016 05:35 AM, Emil Velikov wrote:
> On 28 March 2016 at 19:44, Heiko St?bner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
>> Am Montag, 28. M?rz 2016, 13:21:02 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 22 March 2016 at 00:42, Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi Yakir,
>>>>
>>>> Am Montag, 21. M?rz 2016, 20:17:46 schrieb Yakir Yang:
>>>>> On 03/21/2016 07:29 PM, Heiko St?bner wrote:
>>>>>> Am Montag, 21. M?rz 2016, 17:28:38 schrieb Yakir Yang:
>>>>>>> This patch set would add the RGA direct rendering based 2d graphics
>>>>>>> acceleration module.
>>>>>> very cool to see that.
>>>>> ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch set is based on git repository below:
>>>>>>> git://people.freedesktop.org/~airlied/linux drm-next
>>>>>>> commit id: 568d7c764ae01f3706085ac8f0d8a8ac7e826bd7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the RGA driver is based on Exynos G2D driver, it only manages the
>>>>>>> command lists received from user, so user should make the command list
>>>>>>> to data and registers needed by operation to use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have prepared an userspace demo application for testing:
>>>>>>>     https://github.com/yakir-Yang/libdrm-rockchip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a rockchip libdrm library, and I have write a simple test case
>>>>>>> "rockchip_rga_test" that would test the below RGA features:
>>>>>>> - solid
>>>>>>> - copy
>>>>>>> - rotation
>>>>>>> - flip
>>>>>>> - window clip
>>>>>>> - dithering
>>>>>> Did you submit your libdrm changes as well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Userspace-interfaces need to be stable so the other side must also get
>>>>>> accepted - even before the kernel change if I remember correctly.
>>>>> Got it, and I just saw exynos_fimg2d already landed at mainline libdrm.
>>>>> But I don't find the way to submit patches to libdrm, would you like
>>>>> share some helps here ;)
>>>> Looking at the libdrm sources on cgit.freedesktop.org, I did not find any
>>>> specific manual on submitting patches.
>>>>
>>>> But looking at the dri-list archive, dri-devel at lists.freedesktop.org is
>>>> the
>>>> right list and looking at the libdrm history it looks like Emil Velikov
>>>> <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> seems to be doing maintenance-stuff in libdrm.
>>>> And as a 3rd recipient, please also include the linux-rockchip list.
>>>>
>>>> @Emil, please shout if I read that wrong :-)
>>> You got it spot on Heiko. There are a few notes though...
>>>
>>> As one reuses the existing hardware/IP block, it would be better to
>>> avoid copy/pasting code around.
>>> Namely:
>>>   - (if possible) factor out the exynos g2d kernel functionality to a
>>> separate kernel module and wire up the rockhip (via dt ?) to use it
>>>   - factor out the g2d specifics out of exynos_drm.h (into
>>> exynos_g2d_drm.h perhaps ?) and make sure exynos_drm.h includes the
>>> new header
>> I think the IP blocks themself are quite different between Rockchip's RGA and
>> Samsung's g2d and I guess the similarities are more along the lines on how
>> that gets integrated into the respective drm driver and userspace.
>>

Yes, the hardware IP blocks is quite different. I just reference two things
from Exynos g2d code:
1. UAPI side: let userspace pass the detail mode tranform register setting
     to kernel directly, so we don't need to pass the rendering 
parameters to
     kernel, just simplify the ioctl parameters.

2. Kernel side: reference the cmdlist manager method. Two simply task: one
     for collecting the userspace register setting, another start 
rendering process.

> In this case, the exynos_g2d_drm.h seems like a good idea. As I'm
> obviously biased, it's better to check how others feel on the topic.

Do you mean that just create an exynos_g2d_drm.h, so both exynos_drm.h
and rockchip_drm.h could include them ? It's good to reuse code, but in this
case I thought it's better to keep both exist.

I have try to do that, split the common 'exynos_g2d_drm.h'. But I 
thought it may
caused some name confusion. For example, the drm rockchip code need call the
EXYNOS_G2D_SET_CMDLIST ioctl to send command list. This may like drm 
rockchip
is calling the Exynos G2D hardware, but actually it just the name conflict.

Actually the head file is much simple, just contained 60 lines.

So, is it okay not to split the head file, just keep the data structure 
define both
rockchip_drm.h and exynos_drm.h

>>>   - if neither of these are possible, then please ensure that the new
>>> header uses correct types (see the docs [1]), use MIT/X11 license (if
>>> possible) and link where upstream userspace is happy with the
>>> interface (ideally more than a simple test app like libdrm)
>>> These might sound like an overkill, although getting UAPI right and
>>> maintaining it forever forces us to do so.
>> As for a real-world usecase, maybe the armsoc xserver might be somewhat easy
>> to use. While the core changes I did are in the core project already, I'm
>> still keeping the actual Rockchip support separate [0] due to the not-yet-
>> resolved create_gem ioctl.
>>
>> Anyway, the armsoc xserver has some exa implementation hooks were I guess it
>> might be relatively easy to hook up soc-specific things.
>>
> Ouch the armsoc ddx... Last time I've checked it felt like a place
> where everyone is doing his own thing, with no actual reviews and/or
> maintainer. Iirc most/all of it's functionality was achievable with
> modesetting ddx (with or without glamor) ? I take it that things have
> changed and/or I misunderstood something ?

Yeah, previously I plan to add RGA support to Rockchip armsoc DDX, but
seems Mark start to work on modetestting, so I may need to switch to
follow him.

Anyway, for now I just use libdrm to package the RGA interfaces.

- Yakir

> Note: The above is not meant as bashing although it hell sure looks like one.
>
> Cheers
> Emil
>
>> [0] https://github.com/mmind/xf86-video-armsoc/tree/devel/rockchip
>>
>
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-29 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-21  9:28 [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Add Rockchip RGA support Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:28 ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:28 ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:38 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] drm: rockchip: add a common subdrv interfaces Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:38   ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:38   ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] drm: rockchip: add RGA driver support Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:40   ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:40   ` Yakir Yang
     [not found]   ` <20160323142021.GA19977@rob-hp-laptop>
2016-03-29 11:50     ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-30 18:34   ` Rob Clark
2016-03-30 18:34     ` Rob Clark
2016-03-30 18:34     ` Rob Clark
2016-03-21  9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] ARM: dts: rockchip: add RGA device node for RK3288 Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:42   ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:42   ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] ARM: dst: rockchip: enable RGA support on veyron devices Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:42   ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21  9:42   ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21 11:29 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Add Rockchip RGA support Heiko Stübner
2016-03-21 11:29   ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-21 11:29   ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-21 12:17   ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21 12:17     ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-21 12:17     ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-22  0:42     ` Heiko Stuebner
2016-03-22  0:42       ` Heiko Stuebner
2016-03-22  0:42       ` Heiko Stuebner
2016-03-22  2:14       ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-22  2:14         ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-22  2:14         ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-28 12:21       ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-28 12:21         ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-28 12:21         ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-28 18:44         ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-28 18:44           ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-28 18:44           ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-28 21:35           ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-28 21:35             ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-28 21:35             ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-28 21:46             ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-28 21:46               ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-28 21:46               ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-28 22:07               ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-28 22:07                 ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-28 22:07                 ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-28 22:13                 ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-28 22:13                   ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-29 13:13                   ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-29 13:13                     ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-29 13:13                     ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-30 20:03                     ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-30 20:03                       ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-30 20:03                       ` Emil Velikov
2016-04-05  1:13                       ` Mark yao
2016-04-05  1:13                         ` Mark yao
2016-04-05  1:13                         ` Mark yao
2016-03-29 11:17             ` Yakir Yang [this message]
2016-03-29 11:17               ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-29 11:17               ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-29 11:47               ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-29 11:47                 ` Heiko Stübner
2016-03-29 11:40         ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-29 11:40           ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-29 11:40           ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-29 13:27           ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-29 13:27             ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-29 13:27             ` Emil Velikov
2016-03-22 10:24     ` Andreas Färber
2016-03-22 10:24       ` Andreas Färber
2016-03-29 11:45       ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-29 11:45         ` Yakir Yang
2016-03-29 11:45         ` Yakir Yang

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