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From: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Thierry Reding
	<thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot
	<gnurou-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-pci-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] dt-bindings: pci: tegra: Update for per-lane PHYs
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:55:32 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <570BD704.2060900@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160411112654.GC17743-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>

On 04/11/2016 05:26 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 02:11:42PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>> Hi Thierry,
>>
>> I have a couple more questions, probably just because I'm
>> DT-illiterate.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 06:13:13PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>> From: Thierry Reding <treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>>>
>>> Changes to the pad controller device tree binding have required that
>>> each lane be associated with a separate PHY. Update the PCI host bridge
>>> device tree binding to allow each root port to define the list of PHYs
>>> required to drive the lanes associated with it.

>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/nvidia,tegra20-pcie.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/nvidia,tegra20-pcie.txt

>>> -Required properties on Tegra124 and later:
>>> +Required properties on Tegra124 and later (deprecated):
>>>   - phys: Must contain an entry for each entry in phy-names.
>>>   - phy-names: Must include the following entries:
>>>     - pcie
>>>
>>> +These properties are deprecated in favour of per-lane PHYs define in each of
>>> +the root ports (see below).
>>> +
>>>   Power supplies for Tegra20:
>>>   - avdd-pex-supply: Power supply for analog PCIe logic. Must supply 1.05 V.
>>>   - vdd-pex-supply: Power supply for digital PCIe I/O. Must supply 1.05 V.
>>> @@ -122,6 +125,13 @@ Required properties:
>>>     - Root port 0 uses 4 lanes, root port 1 is unused.
>>>     - Both root ports use 2 lanes.
>>>
>>> +Required properties for Tegra124 and later:
>>
>> I had a little trouble disambiguating this from the "Required
>> properties on Tegra124 and later (deprecated)" line above.  It might
>> help if they said:
>>
>>    Required PCIe controller properties on Tegra124 and later (deprecated):
>>    Required PCIe Root Port properties for Tegra124 and later:
...
>> I'm not sure how to interpret the "deprecated" part.  Assume I'm
>> writing a DTS.  What am I supposed to include?
>>
>>    - "phys" and "phy-names" under the PCIe controller *and*
>>      "phys" and "phy-names" under the Root Port?
>>
>>    - "phys" and "phy-names" under the PCIe controller only if I don't
>>      supply "phys" and "phy-names" under the Root Port?
>>
>> My guess is that a board with more than one PHY for PCIe should omit
>> "phys" and "phy-names" under the PCIe controller and include them
>> under each Root Port.  And a board with only one PHY could conceivably
>> supply these properties either under the controller or the Root Port
>> or both.
>
> Whatever is marked as deprecated should not be used in new bindings at
> all. That is, new board files should move to per-lane PHYs, no matter
> how many lanes they enable.
>
> The XUSB pad controller that provides these PHYs can be driven by two
> different drivers: a pinctrl driver that exposes a single PHY for all
> PCI lanes (it uses per-lane nvidia,iddq properties to enable or disable
> each of the lanes) or a PHY driver that exposes one PHY per lane. Each
> PHY can separately be powered on.
>
> Perhaps a better approach would be to simply remove the deprecated
> properties to avoid any possible confusion. It does have the drawback
> that old device trees won't have a documentation counterpart.

I recall requests during past DT binding reviews that deprecated 
properties still be documented. That allows legacy bindings and driver 
support for them to be understood, since they're still documented.

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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] dt-bindings: pci: tegra: Update for per-lane PHYs
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:55:32 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <570BD704.2060900@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160411112654.GC17743@ulmo.ba.sec>

On 04/11/2016 05:26 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 02:11:42PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>> Hi Thierry,
>>
>> I have a couple more questions, probably just because I'm
>> DT-illiterate.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 06:13:13PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>> From: Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>
>>>
>>> Changes to the pad controller device tree binding have required that
>>> each lane be associated with a separate PHY. Update the PCI host bridge
>>> device tree binding to allow each root port to define the list of PHYs
>>> required to drive the lanes associated with it.

>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/nvidia,tegra20-pcie.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/pci/nvidia,tegra20-pcie.txt

>>> -Required properties on Tegra124 and later:
>>> +Required properties on Tegra124 and later (deprecated):
>>>   - phys: Must contain an entry for each entry in phy-names.
>>>   - phy-names: Must include the following entries:
>>>     - pcie
>>>
>>> +These properties are deprecated in favour of per-lane PHYs define in each of
>>> +the root ports (see below).
>>> +
>>>   Power supplies for Tegra20:
>>>   - avdd-pex-supply: Power supply for analog PCIe logic. Must supply 1.05 V.
>>>   - vdd-pex-supply: Power supply for digital PCIe I/O. Must supply 1.05 V.
>>> @@ -122,6 +125,13 @@ Required properties:
>>>     - Root port 0 uses 4 lanes, root port 1 is unused.
>>>     - Both root ports use 2 lanes.
>>>
>>> +Required properties for Tegra124 and later:
>>
>> I had a little trouble disambiguating this from the "Required
>> properties on Tegra124 and later (deprecated)" line above.  It might
>> help if they said:
>>
>>    Required PCIe controller properties on Tegra124 and later (deprecated):
>>    Required PCIe Root Port properties for Tegra124 and later:
...
>> I'm not sure how to interpret the "deprecated" part.  Assume I'm
>> writing a DTS.  What am I supposed to include?
>>
>>    - "phys" and "phy-names" under the PCIe controller *and*
>>      "phys" and "phy-names" under the Root Port?
>>
>>    - "phys" and "phy-names" under the PCIe controller only if I don't
>>      supply "phys" and "phy-names" under the Root Port?
>>
>> My guess is that a board with more than one PHY for PCIe should omit
>> "phys" and "phy-names" under the PCIe controller and include them
>> under each Root Port.  And a board with only one PHY could conceivably
>> supply these properties either under the controller or the Root Port
>> or both.
>
> Whatever is marked as deprecated should not be used in new bindings at
> all. That is, new board files should move to per-lane PHYs, no matter
> how many lanes they enable.
>
> The XUSB pad controller that provides these PHYs can be driven by two
> different drivers: a pinctrl driver that exposes a single PHY for all
> PCI lanes (it uses per-lane nvidia,iddq properties to enable or disable
> each of the lanes) or a PHY driver that exposes one PHY per lane. Each
> PHY can separately be powered on.
>
> Perhaps a better approach would be to simply remove the deprecated
> properties to avoid any possible confusion. It does have the drawback
> that old device trees won't have a documentation counterpart.

I recall requests during past DT binding reviews that deprecated 
properties still be documented. That allows legacy bindings and driver 
support for them to be understood, since they're still documented.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-11 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-08 16:13 [PATCH v4 1/2] dt-bindings: pci: tegra: Update for per-lane PHYs Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1460131994-24493-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08 16:13   ` [PATCH v4 2/2] PCI: tegra: Support " Thierry Reding
2016-04-08 16:13     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1460131994-24493-2-git-send-email-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08 18:05       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-04-08 18:05         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-04-11 11:11         ` Thierry Reding
2016-04-11 17:41     ` Stephen Warren
2016-04-08 16:48   ` [PATCH v4 1/2] dt-bindings: pci: tegra: Update for " Bjorn Helgaas
2016-04-08 16:48     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-04-11 10:23     ` Thierry Reding
2016-04-11 10:23       ` Thierry Reding
2016-04-08 19:11   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-04-08 19:11     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-04-11 11:26     ` Thierry Reding
2016-04-11 11:26       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]       ` <20160411112654.GC17743-EkSeR96xj6Pcmrwk2tT4+A@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-11 16:55         ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2016-04-11 16:55           ` Stephen Warren
2016-04-11 17:38   ` Stephen Warren
2016-04-11 17:38     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <570BE129.40907-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 16:23       ` Thierry Reding
2016-04-13 16:23         ` Thierry Reding

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