[PATCH 1/2] netlink.7: Update libnl homepage URL

[PATCH 1/2] netlink.7: Update libnl homepage URL

[Jakub Wilk]

The original URL is 404.

Signed-off-by: Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
---
 man7/netlink.7 | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/man7/netlink.7 b/man7/netlink.7
index dae58173d..6e9f3265d 100644
--- a/man7/netlink.7
+++ b/man7/netlink.7
@@ -568,7 +568,7 @@ for (nh = (struct nlmsghdr *) buf; NLMSG_OK (nh, len);
 information about libnetlink
 .UE
 
-.UR http://people.suug.ch\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
+.UR http://www.infradead.org\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
 information about libnl
 .UE
 
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[PATCH 2/2] man.7, uri.7: Use "www.kernel.org" in example URLs

[Jakub Wilk]

Apparently www.kernelnotes.org is now a spam site.

Signed-off-by: Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
---
 man7/man.7 | 2 +-
 man7/uri.7 | 4 ++--
 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/man7/man.7 b/man7/man.7
index ca063c3fd..aae04bfe8 100644
--- a/man7/man.7
+++ b/man7/man.7
@@ -487,7 +487,7 @@ You can also use the new
 macro to identify links to related information.
 If you include URLs, use the full URL
 (e.g.,
-.UR http://www.kernelnotes.org
+.UR http://www.kernel.org
 .UE )
 to ensure that tools can automatically find the URLs.
 .PP
diff --git a/man7/uri.7 b/man7/uri.7
index 427f8ff83..39d876055 100644
--- a/man7/uri.7
+++ b/man7/uri.7
@@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ the resource ceases to exist or becomes unavailable.
 .PP
 URIs are the standard way to name hypertext link destinations
 for tools such as web browsers.
-The string "http://www.kernelnotes.org" is a URL (and thus it
+The string "http://www.kernel.org" is a URL (and thus it
 is also a URI).
 Many people use the term URL loosely as a synonym for URI
 (though technically URLs are a subset of URIs).
@@ -538,7 +538,7 @@ use the URI escaping mechanism, that is,
 use the %HH encoding for unsafe octets.
 .SS Writing a URI
 When written, URIs should be placed inside double quotes
-(e.g., "http://www.kernelnotes.org"),
+(e.g., "http://www.kernel.org"),
 enclosed in angle brackets (e.g., <http://lwn.net>),
 or placed on a line by themselves.
 A warning for those who use double-quotes:
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Re: [PATCH 2/2] man.7, uri.7: Use "www.kernel.org" in example URLs

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

On 02/04/2017 11:49 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> Apparently www.kernelnotes.org is now a spam site.

Charming!

Thanks for the patch, Jakub. Applied.

Cheers,

Michael


> Signed-off-by: Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
> ---
>  man7/man.7 | 2 +-
>  man7/uri.7 | 4 ++--
>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/man7/man.7 b/man7/man.7
> index ca063c3fd..aae04bfe8 100644
> --- a/man7/man.7
> +++ b/man7/man.7
> @@ -487,7 +487,7 @@ You can also use the new
>  macro to identify links to related information.
>  If you include URLs, use the full URL
>  (e.g.,
> -.UR http://www.kernelnotes.org
> +.UR http://www.kernel.org
>  .UE )
>  to ensure that tools can automatically find the URLs.
>  .PP
> diff --git a/man7/uri.7 b/man7/uri.7
> index 427f8ff83..39d876055 100644
> --- a/man7/uri.7
> +++ b/man7/uri.7
> @@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ the resource ceases to exist or becomes unavailable.
>  .PP
>  URIs are the standard way to name hypertext link destinations
>  for tools such as web browsers.
> -The string "http://www.kernelnotes.org" is a URL (and thus it
> +The string "http://www.kernel.org" is a URL (and thus it
>  is also a URI).
>  Many people use the term URL loosely as a synonym for URI
>  (though technically URLs are a subset of URIs).
> @@ -538,7 +538,7 @@ use the URI escaping mechanism, that is,
>  use the %HH encoding for unsafe octets.
>  .SS Writing a URI
>  When written, URIs should be placed inside double quotes
> -(e.g., "http://www.kernelnotes.org"),
> +(e.g., "http://www.kernel.org"),
>  enclosed in angle brackets (e.g., <http://lwn.net>),
>  or placed on a line by themselves.
>  A warning for those who use double-quotes:
> 


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Re: [PATCH 2/2] man.7, uri.7: Use "www.kernel.org" in example URLs

[walter harms]

Am 04.02.2017 12:11, schrieb Michael Kerrisk (man-pages):
> On 02/04/2017 11:49 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>> Apparently www.kernelnotes.org is now a spam site.
> 
> Charming!
> 
> Thanks for the patch, Jakub. Applied.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
>> Signed-off-by: Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
>> ---
>>  man7/man.7 | 2 +-
>>  man7/uri.7 | 4 ++--
>>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/man7/man.7 b/man7/man.7
>> index ca063c3fd..aae04bfe8 100644
>> --- a/man7/man.7
>> +++ b/man7/man.7
>> @@ -487,7 +487,7 @@ You can also use the new
>>  macro to identify links to related information.
>>  If you include URLs, use the full URL
>>  (e.g.,
>> -.UR http://www.kernelnotes.org
>> +.UR http://www.kernel.org
>>  .UE )
>>  to ensure that tools can automatically find the URLs.
>>  .PP
>> diff --git a/man7/uri.7 b/man7/uri.7
>> index 427f8ff83..39d876055 100644
>> --- a/man7/uri.7
>> +++ b/man7/uri.7
>> @@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ the resource ceases to exist or becomes unavailable.
>>  .PP
>>  URIs are the standard way to name hypertext link destinations
>>  for tools such as web browsers.
>> -The string "http://www.kernelnotes.org" is a URL (and thus it
>> +The string "http://www.kernel.org" is a URL (and thus it
>>  is also a URI).
>>  Many people use the term URL loosely as a synonym for URI
>>  (though technically URLs are a subset of URIs).
>> @@ -538,7 +538,7 @@ use the URI escaping mechanism, that is,
>>  use the %HH encoding for unsafe octets.
>>  .SS Writing a URI
>>  When written, URIs should be placed inside double quotes
>> -(e.g., "http://www.kernelnotes.org"),
>> +(e.g., "http://www.kernel.org"),
>>  enclosed in angle brackets (e.g., <http://lwn.net>),
>>  or placed on a line by themselves.
>>  A warning for those who use double-quotes:
>>
> 


I am not sure that is it a good idea to use real domain names here.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2606 specifies names that can
be used. I assume they are future proof.
s/www.kernel.org/www.example.org/g
dito  lwn.net.

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Re: [PATCH 2/2] man.7, uri.7: Use "www.kernel.org" in example URLs

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

Hi Walter,

On 4 February 2017 at 13:46, walter harms <wharms-fPG8STNUNVg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
> Am 04.02.2017 12:11, schrieb Michael Kerrisk (man-pages):
>> On 02/04/2017 11:49 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>>> Apparently www.kernelnotes.org is now a spam site.
>>
>> Charming!
>>
>> Thanks for the patch, Jakub. Applied.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
>>> ---
>>>  man7/man.7 | 2 +-
>>>  man7/uri.7 | 4 ++--
>>>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/man7/man.7 b/man7/man.7
>>> index ca063c3fd..aae04bfe8 100644
>>> --- a/man7/man.7
>>> +++ b/man7/man.7
>>> @@ -487,7 +487,7 @@ You can also use the new
>>>  macro to identify links to related information.
>>>  If you include URLs, use the full URL
>>>  (e.g.,
>>> -.UR http://www.kernelnotes.org
>>> +.UR http://www.kernel.org
>>>  .UE )
>>>  to ensure that tools can automatically find the URLs.
>>>  .PP
>>> diff --git a/man7/uri.7 b/man7/uri.7
>>> index 427f8ff83..39d876055 100644
>>> --- a/man7/uri.7
>>> +++ b/man7/uri.7
>>> @@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ the resource ceases to exist or becomes unavailable.
>>>  .PP
>>>  URIs are the standard way to name hypertext link destinations
>>>  for tools such as web browsers.
>>> -The string "http://www.kernelnotes.org" is a URL (and thus it
>>> +The string "http://www.kernel.org" is a URL (and thus it
>>>  is also a URI).
>>>  Many people use the term URL loosely as a synonym for URI
>>>  (though technically URLs are a subset of URIs).
>>> @@ -538,7 +538,7 @@ use the URI escaping mechanism, that is,
>>>  use the %HH encoding for unsafe octets.
>>>  .SS Writing a URI
>>>  When written, URIs should be placed inside double quotes
>>> -(e.g., "http://www.kernelnotes.org"),
>>> +(e.g., "http://www.kernel.org"),
>>>  enclosed in angle brackets (e.g., <http://lwn.net>),
>>>  or placed on a line by themselves.
>>>  A warning for those who use double-quotes:
>>>
>>
>
>
> I am not sure that is it a good idea to use real domain names here.

I think it's okay, in this case. Presumably, www.kernel.org will be
with us at least as long as the man pages, and I do not mind that a
man page gives a nod to lwn.net.

Cheers,

Michael


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Re: [PATCH 2/2] man.7, uri.7: Use "www.kernel.org" in example URLs

[walter harms]

Am 06.02.2017 08:08, schrieb Michael Kerrisk (man-pages):
> Hi Walter,
> 
> On 4 February 2017 at 13:46, walter harms <wharms-fPG8STNUNVg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 04.02.2017 12:11, schrieb Michael Kerrisk (man-pages):
>>> On 02/04/2017 11:49 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>>>> Apparently www.kernelnotes.org is now a spam site.
>>>
>>> Charming!
>>>
>>> Thanks for the patch, Jakub. Applied.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
>>>> ---
>>>>  man7/man.7 | 2 +-
>>>>  man7/uri.7 | 4 ++--
>>>>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/man7/man.7 b/man7/man.7
>>>> index ca063c3fd..aae04bfe8 100644
>>>> --- a/man7/man.7
>>>> +++ b/man7/man.7
>>>> @@ -487,7 +487,7 @@ You can also use the new
>>>>  macro to identify links to related information.
>>>>  If you include URLs, use the full URL
>>>>  (e.g.,
>>>> -.UR http://www.kernelnotes.org
>>>> +.UR http://www.kernel.org
>>>>  .UE )
>>>>  to ensure that tools can automatically find the URLs.
>>>>  .PP
>>>> diff --git a/man7/uri.7 b/man7/uri.7
>>>> index 427f8ff83..39d876055 100644
>>>> --- a/man7/uri.7
>>>> +++ b/man7/uri.7
>>>> @@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ the resource ceases to exist or becomes unavailable.
>>>>  .PP
>>>>  URIs are the standard way to name hypertext link destinations
>>>>  for tools such as web browsers.
>>>> -The string "http://www.kernelnotes.org" is a URL (and thus it
>>>> +The string "http://www.kernel.org" is a URL (and thus it
>>>>  is also a URI).
>>>>  Many people use the term URL loosely as a synonym for URI
>>>>  (though technically URLs are a subset of URIs).
>>>> @@ -538,7 +538,7 @@ use the URI escaping mechanism, that is,
>>>>  use the %HH encoding for unsafe octets.
>>>>  .SS Writing a URI
>>>>  When written, URIs should be placed inside double quotes
>>>> -(e.g., "http://www.kernelnotes.org"),
>>>> +(e.g., "http://www.kernel.org"),
>>>>  enclosed in angle brackets (e.g., <http://lwn.net>),
>>>>  or placed on a line by themselves.
>>>>  A warning for those who use double-quotes:
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I am not sure that is it a good idea to use real domain names here.
> 
> I think it's okay, in this case. Presumably, www.kernel.org will be
> with us at least as long as the man pages, and I do not mind that a
> man page gives a nod to lwn.net.
> 
I think it gives a bad example and it is not needed. Given  www.kernel.org
will be very stable but since the man page is about URI we could use any.

just my 2 cents, do as you like ...

re,
 wh

> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
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Re: [PATCH 1/2] netlink.7: Update libnl homepage URL

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

On 02/04/2017 11:49 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> The original URL is 404.

Thanks, Jakub! Applied.

Cheers,

Michael


> Signed-off-by: Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
> ---
>  man7/netlink.7 | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/man7/netlink.7 b/man7/netlink.7
> index dae58173d..6e9f3265d 100644
> --- a/man7/netlink.7
> +++ b/man7/netlink.7
> @@ -568,7 +568,7 @@ for (nh = (struct nlmsghdr *) buf; NLMSG_OK (nh, len);
>  information about libnetlink
>  .UE
>  
> -.UR http://people.suug.ch\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
> +.UR http://www.infradead.org\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>  information about libnl
>  .UE
>  
> 


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Re: [PATCH 1/2] netlink.7: Update libnl homepage URL

[walter harms]

Am 04.02.2017 12:10, schrieb Michael Kerrisk (man-pages):
> On 02/04/2017 11:49 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>> The original URL is 404.
> 
> Thanks, Jakub! Applied.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
>> Signed-off-by: Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
>> ---
>>  man7/netlink.7 | 2 +-
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/man7/netlink.7 b/man7/netlink.7
>> index dae58173d..6e9f3265d 100644
>> --- a/man7/netlink.7
>> +++ b/man7/netlink.7
>> @@ -568,7 +568,7 @@ for (nh = (struct nlmsghdr *) buf; NLMSG_OK (nh, len);
>>  information about libnetlink
>>  .UE
>>  
>> -.UR http://people.suug.ch\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>> +.UR http://www.infradead.org\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>>  information about libnl
>>  .UE
>>  
>>
> 
> 

does not work for me. (can not connect)
google finds https://www.infradead.org/~tgr/libnl/
‎             ^^^^^^
does not work for me either perhaps a temporally problem.

re,
 wh

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Re: [PATCH 1/2] netlink.7: Update libnl homepage URL

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

On 4 February 2017 at 13:52, walter harms <wharms-fPG8STNUNVg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
> Am 04.02.2017 12:10, schrieb Michael Kerrisk (man-pages):
>> On 02/04/2017 11:49 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>>> The original URL is 404.
>>
>> Thanks, Jakub! Applied.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
>>> ---
>>>  man7/netlink.7 | 2 +-
>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/man7/netlink.7 b/man7/netlink.7
>>> index dae58173d..6e9f3265d 100644
>>> --- a/man7/netlink.7
>>> +++ b/man7/netlink.7
>>> @@ -568,7 +568,7 @@ for (nh = (struct nlmsghdr *) buf; NLMSG_OK (nh, len);
>>>  information about libnetlink
>>>  .UE
>>>
>>> -.UR http://people.suug.ch\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>>> +.UR http://www.infradead.org\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>>>  information about libnl
>>>  .UE
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> does not work for me. (can not connect)
> google finds https://www.infradead.org/~tgr/libnl/
> ‎             ^^^^^^
> does not work for me either perhaps a temporally problem.

Thanks for noting that, Walter. I'm guessing that this might be
temporary, since Google turns up that URL on a search, and
git.infradead.org is alive. Jakub, did you test the URL at the time
you wrote the patch?

Cheers,

Michael



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Re: [PATCH 1/2] netlink.7: Update libnl homepage URL

[Jakub Wilk]

* Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>, 2017-02-06, 08:28:
>>>>-.UR http://people.suug.ch\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>>>>+.UR http://www.infradead.org\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>>>> information about libnl
>>>> .UE
>>
>>does not work for me. (can not connect)

Yeah, the server appears to be down. :/
I'll ask on the libnl mailing list what's going on.

>>google finds https://www.infradead.org/~tgr/libnl/
>>             ^^^^^^
>>does not work for me either perhaps a temporally problem.

The URL I used is in the latest libnl source, so one can presume it's official. 
I know that Google can be overzealous about HTTP->HTTPS upgrades, so I decided 
to be conservative and use the HTTP one.

>Jakub, did you test the URL at the time you wrote the patch?

I did a few days before that. According to my browser cache the site was still 
up on 2017-01-31.

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Re: [PATCH 1/2] netlink.7: Update libnl homepage URL

[Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)]

On 6 February 2017 at 11:21, Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> * Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>, 2017-02-06, 08:28:
>>>>>
>>>>> -.UR http://people.suug.ch\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>>>>> +.UR http://www.infradead.org\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>>>>> information about libnl
>>>>> .UE
>>>
>>>
>>> does not work for me. (can not connect)
>
>
> Yeah, the server appears to be down. :/
> I'll ask on the libnl mailing list what's going on.
>
>>> google finds https://www.infradead.org/~tgr/libnl/
>>>             ^^^^^^
>>> does not work for me either perhaps a temporally problem.
>
>
> The URL I used is in the latest libnl source, so one can presume it's
> official. I know that Google can be overzealous about HTTP->HTTPS upgrades,
> so I decided to be conservative and use the HTTP one.
>
>> Jakub, did you test the URL at the time you wrote the patch?
>
>
> I did a few days before that. According to my browser cache the site was
> still up on 2017-01-31.

And the URL seems to be alive once more now.

Cheers,

Michael



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Re: [PATCH 1/2] netlink.7: Update libnl homepage URL

[walter harms]

confirmed ..

last time seems to be an unfortunate coincidence

@jukub:
also confirmed ..
it works for me with http and https, so http is fine.

re,
 wh

Am 08.02.2017 09:48, schrieb Michael Kerrisk (man-pages):
> On 6 February 2017 at 11:21, Jakub Wilk <jwilk-tXgOlIzOKNReoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> * Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>, 2017-02-06, 08:28:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -.UR http://people.suug.ch\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>>>>>> +.UR http://www.infradead.org\:/~tgr\:/libnl/
>>>>>> information about libnl
>>>>>> .UE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> does not work for me. (can not connect)
>>
>>
>> Yeah, the server appears to be down. :/
>> I'll ask on the libnl mailing list what's going on.
>>
>>>> google finds https://www.infradead.org/~tgr/libnl/
>>>>             ^^^^^^
>>>> does not work for me either perhaps a temporally problem.
>>
>>
>> The URL I used is in the latest libnl source, so one can presume it's
>> official. I know that Google can be overzealous about HTTP->HTTPS upgrades,
>> so I decided to be conservative and use the HTTP one.
>>
>>> Jakub, did you test the URL at the time you wrote the patch?
>>
>>
>> I did a few days before that. According to my browser cache the site was
>> still up on 2017-01-31.
> 
> And the URL seems to be alive once more now.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
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