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From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v16 5/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CTRL_VQ
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59E85D2A.1060407@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171013163503-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 10/13/2017 09:38 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:54:56AM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>>> But I think flushing is very fragile. You will easily run into races
>>> if one of the actors gets out of sync and keeps adding data.
>>> I think adding an ID in the free vq stream is a more robust
>>> approach.
>>>
>> Adding ID to the free vq would need the device to distinguish whether it
>> receives an ID or a free page hint,
> Not really.  It's pretty simple: a 64 bit buffer is an ID. A 4K and bigger one
> is a page.

I think we can also use the previous method, free page via in_buf, and 
id via out_buf.

Best,
Wei

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From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"mhocko@kernel.org" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mawilcox@microsoft.com" <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	"david@redhat.com" <david@redhat.com>,
	"cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com" <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	"mgorman@techsingularity.net" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"aarcange@redhat.com" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"amit.shah@redhat.com" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"liliang.opensource@gmail.co
Subject: Re: [PATCH v16 5/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CTRL_VQ
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59E85D2A.1060407@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171013163503-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 10/13/2017 09:38 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:54:56AM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>>> But I think flushing is very fragile. You will easily run into races
>>> if one of the actors gets out of sync and keeps adding data.
>>> I think adding an ID in the free vq stream is a more robust
>>> approach.
>>>
>> Adding ID to the free vq would need the device to distinguish whether it
>> receives an ID or a free page hint,
> Not really.  It's pretty simple: a 64 bit buffer is an ID. A 4K and bigger one
> is a page.

I think we can also use the previous method, free page via in_buf, and 
id via out_buf.

Best,
Wei

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From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"mhocko@kernel.org" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mawilcox@microsoft.com" <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	"david@redhat.com" <david@redhat.com>,
	"cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com" <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	"mgorman@techsingularity.net" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"aarcange@redhat.com" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"amit.shah@redhat.com" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"liliang.opensource@gmail.com" <liliang.opensource@gmail.com>,
	"yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com" <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
	"quan.xu@aliyun.com" <quan.xu@aliyun.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v16 5/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CTRL_VQ
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59E85D2A.1060407@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171013163503-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 10/13/2017 09:38 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:54:56AM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>>> But I think flushing is very fragile. You will easily run into races
>>> if one of the actors gets out of sync and keeps adding data.
>>> I think adding an ID in the free vq stream is a more robust
>>> approach.
>>>
>> Adding ID to the free vq would need the device to distinguish whether it
>> receives an ID or a free page hint,
> Not really.  It's pretty simple: a 64 bit buffer is an ID. A 4K and bigger one
> is a page.

I think we can also use the previous method, free page via in_buf, and 
id via out_buf.

Best,
Wei

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From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"mhocko@kernel.org" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mawilcox@microsoft.com" <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	"david@redhat.com" <david@redhat.com>,
	"cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com" <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	"mgorman@techsingularity.net" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"aarcange@redhat.com" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"amit.shah@redhat.com" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"liliang.opensource@gmail.com" <liliang.opensource@gmail.com>,
	"yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com" <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
	"quan.xu@aliyun.com" <quan.xu@aliyun.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v16 5/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CTRL_VQ
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59E85D2A.1060407@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171013163503-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 10/13/2017 09:38 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:54:56AM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>>> But I think flushing is very fragile. You will easily run into races
>>> if one of the actors gets out of sync and keeps adding data.
>>> I think adding an ID in the free vq stream is a more robust
>>> approach.
>>>
>> Adding ID to the free vq would need the device to distinguish whether it
>> receives an ID or a free page hint,
> Not really.  It's pretty simple: a 64 bit buffer is an ID. A 4K and bigger one
> is a page.

I think we can also use the previous method, free page via in_buf, and 
id via out_buf.

Best,
Wei

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"mhocko@kernel.org" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mawilcox@microsoft.com" <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	"david@redhat.com" <david@redhat.com>,
	"cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com" <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	"mgorman@techsingularity.net" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"aarcange@redhat.com" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"amit.shah@redhat.com" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"liliang.opensource@gmail.com" <liliang.opensource@gmail.com>,
	"yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com" <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
	"quan.xu@aliyun.com" <quan.xu@aliyun.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v16 5/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CTRL_VQ
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:07:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59E85D2A.1060407@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171013163503-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 10/13/2017 09:38 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 11:54:56AM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>>> But I think flushing is very fragile. You will easily run into races
>>> if one of the actors gets out of sync and keeps adding data.
>>> I think adding an ID in the free vq stream is a more robust
>>> approach.
>>>
>> Adding ID to the free vq would need the device to distinguish whether it
>> receives an ID or a free page hint,
> Not really.  It's pretty simple: a 64 bit buffer is an ID. A 4K and bigger one
> is a page.

I think we can also use the previous method, free page via in_buf, and 
id via out_buf.

Best,
Wei

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-19  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-30  4:05 [PATCH v16 0/5] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [PATCH v16 1/5] lib/xbitmap: Introduce xbitmap Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` Wei Wang
2017-10-09 11:30   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-09 11:30     ` [Qemu-devel] " Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-09 11:30     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-30  4:05 ` Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [PATCH v16 2/5] radix tree test suite: add tests for xbitmap Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [PATCH v16 3/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_SG Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` Wei Wang
2017-10-02  4:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02  4:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02  4:30     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02  4:30     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02 12:39     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 12:39     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 12:39       ` [Qemu-devel] " Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 12:39       ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 12:39       ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 13:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02 13:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02 13:44         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02 13:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02 13:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-09 15:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-09 15:20     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-09 15:20     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-09 15:20     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10  7:28     ` Wei Wang
2017-10-10  7:28     ` Wei Wang
2017-10-10  7:28       ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-10-10  7:28       ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-10-10  7:28       ` Wei Wang
2017-10-10 11:08       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-10 11:08         ` [Qemu-devel] " Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-10 11:08         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-10 12:32         ` Wei Wang
2017-10-10 12:32           ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-10-10 12:32           ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-10-10 12:32           ` Wei Wang
2017-10-10 13:09           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-10 13:09             ` [Qemu-devel] " Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-10 13:09             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-11  1:51             ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11  1:51             ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11  1:51               ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-10-11  1:51               ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-10-11  1:51               ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11  2:26               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-11  2:26                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-11  3:16                 ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11  3:16                   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-10-11  3:16                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-10-11  3:16                   ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11  3:16                 ` Wei Wang
2017-10-10 12:32         ` Wei Wang
2017-10-09 15:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [PATCH v16 4/5] mm: support reporting free page blocks Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` Wei Wang
2017-10-03 14:50   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-03 14:50     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michal Hocko
2017-10-03 14:50     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-03 14:50   ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [PATCH v16 5/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CTRL_VQ Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05   ` Wei Wang
2017-10-01  3:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-01  3:18     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-01  3:18     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-01  3:18     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02 16:38     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 16:38     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 16:38       ` [virtio-dev] " Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 16:38       ` [Qemu-devel] " Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 16:38       ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 16:38       ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-10 15:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10 15:15         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10 15:15         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10 15:15         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10 15:15         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-11  6:03         ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11  6:03         ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11  6:03           ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-10-11  6:03           ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-10-11  6:03           ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11  6:03           ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11 13:49           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-11 13:49           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-11 13:49             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-11 13:49             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-11 13:49             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-11 13:49             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-12  3:54             ` Wei Wang
2017-10-12  3:54               ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-10-12  3:54               ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-10-12  3:54               ` Wei Wang
2017-10-12  3:54               ` Wei Wang
2017-10-13 13:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-13 13:38                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-13 13:38                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-13 13:38                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-13 13:38                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-19  8:07                 ` Wei Wang
2017-10-19  8:07                 ` Wei Wang [this message]
2017-10-19  8:07                   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-10-19  8:07                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-10-19  8:07                   ` Wei Wang
2017-10-19  8:07                   ` Wei Wang
2017-10-13 13:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-12  3:54             ` Wei Wang
2017-10-10 15:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-01  3:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-30  4:05 ` Wei Wang
2017-10-01 13:16 ` [PATCH v16 0/5] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Damian Tometzki
2017-10-01 13:16 ` Damian Tometzki
2017-10-01 13:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Damian Tometzki
2017-10-01 13:16   ` Damian Tometzki
2017-10-01 13:16   ` Damian Tometzki
2017-10-01 13:25 ` Damian Tometzki
2017-10-01 13:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Damian Tometzki
2017-10-01 13:25   ` Damian Tometzki
2017-10-01 13:25   ` Damian Tometzki
2017-10-09  9:39   ` Wei Wang
2017-10-09  9:39     ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-10-09  9:39     ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-10-09  9:39     ` Wei Wang
2017-10-09  9:39   ` Wei Wang
2017-10-01 13:25 ` Damian Tometzki

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