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From: zhong jiang <zhongjiang@huawei.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	syzbot <syzbot+cbb52e396df3e565ab02@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: KASAN: use-after-free Read in get_mem_cgroup_from_mm
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:23:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5C8F3965.2050202@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190316194222.GA29767@redhat.com>

On 2019/3/17 3:42, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 05:38:54PM +0800, zhong jiang wrote:
>> On 2019/3/16 5:39, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 03:10:08PM +0800, zhong jiang wrote:
>>>> I can reproduce the issue in arm64 qemu machine.  The issue will leave after applying the
>>>> patch.
>>>>
>>>> Tested-by: zhong jiang <zhongjiang@huawei.com>
>>> Thanks a lot for the quick testing!
>>>
>>>> Meanwhile,  I just has a little doubt whether it is necessary to use RCU to free the task struct or not.
>>>> I think that mm->owner alway be NULL after failing to create to process. Because we call mm_clear_owner.
>>> I wish it was enough, but the problem is that the other CPU may be in
>>> the middle of get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() while this runs, and it would
>>> dereference mm->owner while it is been freed without the call_rcu
>>> affter we clear mm->owner. What prevents this race is the
>> As you had said, It would dereference mm->owner after we clear mm->owner.
>>
>> But after we clear mm->owner,  mm->owner should be NULL.  Is it right?
>>
>> And mem_cgroup_from_task will check the parameter. 
>> you mean that it is possible after checking the parameter to  clear the owner .
>> and the NULL pointer will trigger. :-(
> Dereference mm->owner didn't mean reading the value of the mm->owner
> pointer, it really means to dereference the value of the pointer. It's
> like below:
>
> get_mem_cgroup_from_mm()		failing fork()
> ----					---
> task = mm->owner
> 					mm->owner = NULL;
> 					free(mm->owner)
> *task /* use after free */
>
> We didn't set mm->owner to NULL before, so the window for the race was
> larger, but setting mm->owner to NULL only hides the problem and it
> can still happen (albeit with a smaller window).
>
> If get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() can see at any time mm->owner not NULL,
> then the free of the task struct must be delayed until after
> rcu_read_unlock has returned in get_mem_cgroup_from_mm(). This is
> the standard RCU model, the freeing must be delayed until after the
> next quiescent point.

Thank you for your explaination patiently.  The patch should go to upstream too.  I think you
should send a formal patch to the mainline.  Maybe other people suffer from
the issue.  :-)

Thanks,
zhong jiang
> BTW, both mm_update_next_owner() and mm_clear_owner() should have used
> WRITE_ONCE when they write to mm->owner, I can update that too but
> it's just to not to make assumptions that gcc does the right thing
> (and we still rely on gcc to do the right thing in other places) so
> that is just an orthogonal cleanup.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrea
>
> .
>



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: zhong jiang <zhongjiang@huawei.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	syzbot <syzbot+cbb52e396df3e565ab02@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: KASAN: use-after-free Read in get_mem_cgroup_from_mm
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:23:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5C8F3965.2050202@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190316194222.GA29767@redhat.com>

On 2019/3/17 3:42, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 05:38:54PM +0800, zhong jiang wrote:
>> On 2019/3/16 5:39, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 03:10:08PM +0800, zhong jiang wrote:
>>>> I can reproduce the issue in arm64 qemu machine.  The issue will leave after applying the
>>>> patch.
>>>>
>>>> Tested-by: zhong jiang <zhongjiang@huawei.com>
>>> Thanks a lot for the quick testing!
>>>
>>>> Meanwhile,  I just has a little doubt whether it is necessary to use RCU to free the task struct or not.
>>>> I think that mm->owner alway be NULL after failing to create to process. Because we call mm_clear_owner.
>>> I wish it was enough, but the problem is that the other CPU may be in
>>> the middle of get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() while this runs, and it would
>>> dereference mm->owner while it is been freed without the call_rcu
>>> affter we clear mm->owner. What prevents this race is the
>> As you had said, It would dereference mm->owner after we clear mm->owner.
>>
>> But after we clear mm->owner,  mm->owner should be NULL.  Is it right?
>>
>> And mem_cgroup_from_task will check the parameter. 
>> you mean that it is possible after checking the parameter to  clear the owner .
>> and the NULL pointer will trigger. :-(
> Dereference mm->owner didn't mean reading the value of the mm->owner
> pointer, it really means to dereference the value of the pointer. It's
> like below:
>
> get_mem_cgroup_from_mm()		failing fork()
> ----					---
> task = mm->owner
> 					mm->owner = NULL;
> 					free(mm->owner)
> *task /* use after free */
>
> We didn't set mm->owner to NULL before, so the window for the race was
> larger, but setting mm->owner to NULL only hides the problem and it
> can still happen (albeit with a smaller window).
>
> If get_mem_cgroup_from_mm() can see at any time mm->owner not NULL,
> then the free of the task struct must be delayed until after
> rcu_read_unlock has returned in get_mem_cgroup_from_mm(). This is
> the standard RCU model, the freeing must be delayed until after the
> next quiescent point.

Thank you for your explaination patiently.  The patch should go to upstream too.  I think you
should send a formal patch to the mainline.  Maybe other people suffer from
the issue.  :-)

Thanks,
zhong jiang
> BTW, both mm_update_next_owner() and mm_clear_owner() should have used
> WRITE_ONCE when they write to mm->owner, I can update that too but
> it's just to not to make assumptions that gcc does the right thing
> (and we still rely on gcc to do the right thing in other places) so
> that is just an orthogonal cleanup.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrea
>
> .
>



  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-18  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-07  1:52 KASAN: use-after-free Read in get_mem_cgroup_from_mm syzbot
2018-12-04 15:43 ` syzbot
2019-03-03 16:19   ` zhong jiang
2019-03-03 16:19     ` zhong jiang
2019-03-04  7:40     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-03-04  7:40       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-03-04 14:00       ` zhong jiang
2019-03-04 14:00         ` zhong jiang
2019-03-04 14:11         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-03-04 14:11           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-03-04 15:32           ` zhong jiang
2019-03-04 15:32             ` zhong jiang
2019-03-05  6:26             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-03-05  6:26               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-03-05  6:42               ` zhong jiang
2019-03-05  6:42                 ` zhong jiang
2019-03-06  2:05                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-06  5:53                   ` zhong jiang
2019-03-06  5:53                     ` zhong jiang
2019-03-06  6:26                     ` Mike Rapoport
2019-03-06  7:41                       ` zhong jiang
2019-03-06  7:41                         ` zhong jiang
2019-03-06  8:12                         ` Peter Xu
2019-03-06 13:07                           ` zhong jiang
2019-03-06 13:07                             ` zhong jiang
2019-03-06 18:29                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-07  7:58                               ` zhong jiang
2019-03-07  7:58                                 ` zhong jiang
2019-03-06  8:20                         ` Mike Rapoport
2019-03-08  7:10                   ` zhong jiang
2019-03-08  7:10                     ` zhong jiang
2019-03-15 21:39                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-16  9:38                       ` zhong jiang
2019-03-16  9:38                         ` zhong jiang
2019-03-16 19:42                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-18  6:23                           ` zhong jiang [this message]
2019-03-18  6:23                             ` zhong jiang
2019-03-04 21:51     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-03-05  3:09       ` zhong jiang
2019-03-05  3:09         ` zhong jiang
2019-03-22  9:36 ` syzbot
2019-03-22  9:36   ` syzbot

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