FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Otavio Salvador]

Hello folks,

In last meeting it has been agreed that we'd place meetings monthly.
As the people in Asia has shown interest to participate we're planning
to do the meeting, this time, it in a time which works for everyone.

So we'll place this meeting at 07/03/2014 at 18:00 GMT.

Please, send me an @gmail account to be added to the meeting previously.

For the next one, I suggest the following agenda:

FSL Community BSP Meeting Agenda

Status
* Short testing status from maintainers/testers
* Upcoming board
* Upstream

Document
* What is FSL Community BSP
   * Motivation
   * What the FSL Community BSP is not
   * What to expect (production X basic feature)
* Release Notes: Use cases (what is missing)
* User guide: help
* FAQ: pending issues to make it public
* FAQ: process of adding new question

meta-fsl-ppc
* Release Notes
* Technical implications

Status of actions of last meeting
* Mario is going to review the user guide and FAQ to help checking
spelling and more
* Otavio, Daiane and Eric are going to help with Bugzilla entries
* Eric, are going to draft of a "Statement of Purpose"

Topics raised in last meeting
* How to get more people involved in future
* Get sub-maintainers for specific areas
   * Define the sub areas
   * How to get it promoted

People time
* Eric Nelson: UTC -7
* Trevor Worener: UTC -5 (currently UTC -4)
* Anthony Felice: UTC -5 (currently UTC -4) - prefer work days



-- 
Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
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Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Otavio Salvador]

Hello folks,

On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Otavio Salvador
<otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
> So we'll place this meeting at 07/03/2014 at 18:00 GMT.

Some people from China got in touch with me and proposed to change it
to 14:00 GMT.

This works fine for me and I'd like to know if it works fine for you guys too?

-- 
Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Otavio Salvador]

Hello folks,

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Otavio Salvador
<otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Otavio Salvador
> <otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
>> So we'll place this meeting at 07/03/2014 at 18:00 GMT.
>
> Some people from China got in touch with me and proposed to change it
> to 14:00 GMT.
>
> This works fine for me and I'd like to know if it works fine for you guys too?

I made the event at Google+[1] and sent the invite to the people who
has confirmed the intererest by e-mail and some more.

1. https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/csnjar8nnse4i0uhhs82f1a4hgc?authkey=CKb8nrvnjpyT6gE

The time we can adjust but for now I set it to 14:00 GMT. Please let
me know if you have problems with this time.

-- 
Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Otavio Salvador]

Hello folks,

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Otavio Salvador
<otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Otavio Salvador
> <otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Otavio Salvador
>> <otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
>>> So we'll place this meeting at 07/03/2014 at 18:00 GMT.
>>
>> Some people from China got in touch with me and proposed to change it
>> to 14:00 GMT.
>>
>> This works fine for me and I'd like to know if it works fine for you guys too?
>
> I made the event at Google+[1] and sent the invite to the people who
> has confirmed the intererest by e-mail and some more.
>
> 1. https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/csnjar8nnse4i0uhhs82f1a4hgc?authkey=CKb8nrvnjpyT6gE
>
> The time we can adjust but for now I set it to 14:00 GMT. Please let
> me know if you have problems with this time.

I had mistakenly made it a simple Hangout event and it is limted to 10
people so I cancelled it and made a Hangout on Air event.

The event is at:

https://plus.google.com/events/cq1dftmkakgiudjikiksirnqk1k?authkey=CJvvxP75m-OtGw

Sorry about that. We are learning how to do it ... in the next 10
meetings we'll do it perfectly ;-)

Regards,

-- 
Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Daiane.Angolini]

> Hello folks,
> 
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
> wrote:
> > So we'll place this meeting at 07/03/2014 at 18:00 GMT.
> 
> Some people from China got in touch with me and proposed to change it to
> 14:00 GMT.
> 
> This works fine for me and I'd like to know if it works fine for you guys
> too?

In fact it´s better for me too,

Daiane

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Daiane.Angolini]

> Hello folks,
> 
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
> wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Otavio Salvador
> > <otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Otavio Salvador
> >> <otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
> >>> So we'll place this meeting at 07/03/2014 at 18:00 GMT.
> >>
> >> Some people from China got in touch with me and proposed to change it
> >> to 14:00 GMT.
> >>
> >> This works fine for me and I'd like to know if it works fine for you
> guys too?
> >
> > I made the event at Google+[1] and sent the invite to the people who
> > has confirmed the intererest by e-mail and some more.
> >
> > 1.
> > https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/csnjar8nnse4i0uhhs82f1a4hgc?authkey
> > =CKb8nrvnjpyT6gE
> >
> > The time we can adjust but for now I set it to 14:00 GMT. Please let
> > me know if you have problems with this time.
> 
> I had mistakenly made it a simple Hangout event and it is limted to 10
> people so I cancelled it and made a Hangout on Air event.
> 
> The event is at:
> 
> https://plus.google.com/events/cq1dftmkakgiudjikiksirnqk1k?authkey=CJvvxP75
> m-OtGw
> 
> Sorry about that. We are learning how to do it ... in the next 10 meetings
> we'll do it perfectly ;-)

Please, add me as writer/speaker.

You have my gmail account ;)

Daiane

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Bob Cochran]

On 06/30/2014 01:12 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> The event is at:
>
> https://plus.google.com/events/cq1dftmkakgiudjikiksirnqk1k?authkey=CJvvxP75m-OtGw
>
> Sorry about that. We are learning how to do it ... in the next 10
> meetings we'll do it perfectly;-)

Any tips for newcomers?

Just need to bring a headset?

Perhaps we're supposed to attend with a web camera enabled?

I'm not a google services user (other than search), so your tips will be 
appreciated.

Thanks,

Bob
mindchasers@gmail.com

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[zhenhua.luo]

Hello Otavio, 

Please add me(super.lzh@gmail.com) in the event. A guide of how to join will be helpful. :)


Best Regards,

Zhenhua


> -----Original Message-----
> From: meta-freescale-bounces@yoctoproject.org [mailto:meta-freescale-
> bounces@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Otavio Salvador
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:13 AM
> To: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org
> Subject: Re: [meta-freescale] FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 -
> 18:00 GMT
> 
> Hello folks,
> 
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
> wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Otavio Salvador
> > <otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Otavio Salvador
> >> <otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
> >>> So we'll place this meeting at 07/03/2014 at 18:00 GMT.
> >>
> >> Some people from China got in touch with me and proposed to change it
> >> to 14:00 GMT.
> >>
> >> This works fine for me and I'd like to know if it works fine for you
> guys too?
> >
> > I made the event at Google+[1] and sent the invite to the people who
> > has confirmed the intererest by e-mail and some more.
> >
> > 1.
> > https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/csnjar8nnse4i0uhhs82f1a4hgc?authkey
> > =CKb8nrvnjpyT6gE
> >
> > The time we can adjust but for now I set it to 14:00 GMT. Please let
> > me know if you have problems with this time.
> 
> I had mistakenly made it a simple Hangout event and it is limted to 10
> people so I cancelled it and made a Hangout on Air event.
> 
> The event is at:
> 
> https://plus.google.com/events/cq1dftmkakgiudjikiksirnqk1k?authkey=CJvvxP
> 75m-OtGw
> 
> Sorry about that. We are learning how to do it ... in the next 10
> meetings we'll do it perfectly ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
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> http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
> Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750
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Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Daiane.Angolini]

> On 06/30/2014 01:12 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> > The event is at:
> >
> > https://plus.google.com/events/cq1dftmkakgiudjikiksirnqk1k?authkey=CJv
> > vxP75m-OtGw
> >
> > Sorry about that. We are learning how to do it ... in the next 10
> > meetings we'll do it perfectly;-)
> 
> Any tips for newcomers?

There is 2 options:

1) read only - you will be able to see it ongoing just like any other youtube video. So, only audio is needed
2) read/write - you need to send your gmail account to Otavio, he includes/invites you to be part of the meeting (and appear in the movie/audio)

> 
> Just need to bring a headset?

Yes, for the rw option

> 
> Perhaps we're supposed to attend with a web camera enabled?

It´s up to you! In my case I don´t have a webcan here and you will be looking at my static smiling face from my profile pic


Daiane

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Otavio Salvador]

Hello Bob,

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Bob Cochran <yocto@mindchasers.com> wrote:
> On 06/30/2014 01:12 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>>
>> The event is at:
>>
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/events/cq1dftmkakgiudjikiksirnqk1k?authkey=CJvvxP75m-OtGw
>>
>> Sorry about that. We are learning how to do it ... in the next 10
>> meetings we'll do it perfectly;-)
>
>
> Any tips for newcomers?
>
> Just need to bring a headset?

Basically yes.

You can watch in the Youtube channel or join the call to participate.
To join it, once it begins I will send the invite to all people but
the call is limited to 10 people. The channel is unlimited so everyone
can watch it.

> Perhaps we're supposed to attend with a web camera enabled?

Not necessary but welcome if you want to.

> I'm not a google services user (other than search), so your tips will be
> appreciated.

No problem, it is quite confusing indeed :D

-- 
Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Otavio Salvador]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:59 AM, zhenhua.luo@freescale.com
<zhenhua.luo@freescale.com> wrote:
> Please add me(super.lzh@gmail.com) in the event. A guide of how to join will be helpful. :)

I think you're added now, please check Daiane and my answers to Bob
and see if you have any further questions.

:-)

-- 
Otavio Salvador                             O.S. Systems
http://www.ossystems.com.br        http://code.ossystems.com.br
Mobile: +55 (53) 9981-7854            Mobile: +1 (347) 903-9750

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Bob Cochran]

On 06/27/2014 09:55 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> meta-fsl-ppc
> * Release Notes
> * Technical implications



Hello FSL BSL Community.

This is the first of 2 emails that I am forwarding from earlier 
discussions regarding meta-fsl-ppc.

I have periodically used the meta-freescale board to raise issues that I 
see about the disconnect between FSL's use of the Yocto Project repo, 
their public GIT, and the SDK releases and a general lack of 
transparency regarding their BSP / SDK development and bug resolution 
process.

I hope these issues can be followed and worked in upcoming BSP meetings.

Bob


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Re:[mcswdev] [yocto] Yocto branches policy for concurrent 
SDK releases
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 05:39:07 +0000
From: zhenhua.luo@freescale.com <zhenhua.luo@freescale.com>
To: Bob Cochran <yocto@mindchasers.com>
CC: yocto@yoctoproject.org <yocto@yoctoproject.org>

Hi Bob,

Sorry for the late response.

 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Bob Cochran [mailto:yocto@mindchasers.com]
 > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 4:25 AM
 >
 > Any plans to create a repo for meta-fsl-networking on git.yoctoproject
 > for Power / QorIQ developers?
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] meta-fsl-networking layer manages the packages 
maintained internally, so the layer can't be upstreamed.

 > It would be good for yocto users, such as myself, to be able to build
 > something incremental between the SDK releases using updated / patched
 > recipes pulled from the yocto repos, which should include meta-fsl-
 > networking.
 >
 > Say I wanted to propose a patch to a recipe like fsl-image-full, which is
 > in meta-fsl-networking, how would I go about it?
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] For such case, we will consider to move the demo 
image recipes into meta-fsl-ppc layer.

 > Last February (2013), you proposed an FSL Yocto layers reorg that merged
 > layerscape/ARM with Power for QorIQ.  I imagine you're getting close to
 > having something internally.  Can you please share the vision with us
 > along with whether it will be public on the yocto project (as opposed to
 > kept under wraps with incremental SDK releases)?
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] Currently we are working on it, and will publish 
the staffs publicly when it is ready.


Best Regards,

Zhenhua

Re: FSL Community BSP Meeting - 07/03/2014 - 18:00 GMT

[Bob Cochran]

On 06/27/2014 09:55 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> meta-fsl-ppc
> * Release Notes
> * Technical implications


This is a 2nd forwarded email that documents some of the issues I 
previously raised regarding meta-fsl-ppc.  I hope these issues can be 
included for discussion in our FSL Community BSP meetings.

Thank you,

Bob


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [meta-freescale] Freescale U-Boot User's Guide
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 10:03:48 +0000
From: zhenhua.luo@freescale.com <zhenhua.luo@freescale.com>
To: Bob Cochran <yocto@mindchasers.com>
CC: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org <meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org>, 
Richard Schmitt <richard.schmitt@freescale.com>, 
White.Weng@freescale.com <White.Weng@freescale.com>

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your suggestion. Please see my inline reply.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Cochran [mailto:yocto@mindchasers.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:49 PM
>
> On 05/29/2014 11:50 PM, zhenhua.luo@freescale.com wrote:
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > For QorIQ PPC SDK, following is the mirror info.
> > SDK
> > ISOs:http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=SD
> > KLINUX SDK public
> > source/patch:http://git.freescale.com/git/cgit.cgi/ppc/sdk/
> > Yocto:http://git.freescale.com/git/cgit.cgi/ppc/sdk/
> > orhttp://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-fsl-ppc/
> > SDK documentations:http://www.freescale.com/infocenter  -> Software and
> Tools Information Center -> QorIQ SDK Documentation
> > 			or source ISO
>
>
> Thank you for the reply Zhenhua.
>
> Here's my fundamental problem (as I see it):
>
> Let's say we're getting ready to release a product using the FSL SDK 1.5
> for QorIQ.  I assume there are many customers to the 1.5 SDK and bugs are
> being found & reported on a regular basis.  Some of these bugs will not
> be seen here during development but eventually impact our product in the
> field.
>
> Freescale has a private service request (SR) system for supporting SDK
> bug requests and also offers paid premium SDK support.
>
>
> How can I use the systems in place (e.g., FSL public git and
> Yoctoproject.org) to learn which SDK bugs have been reported and patched
> and then grab the appropriate patches to create an incremental build?
> It's not sufficient to only have a system in place to help resolve the
> bugs we find ourselves.
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] To support above requirement, the bug related info 
needs to be included in the commit message for better patch finding, we 
will consider the enhancement in future. In current SDK. The resolved 
critical bugs can be got from SDK documentation(SDK Overview -> Known 
Issues).

> As far as I know, the yocto repos never contain enough data to build the
> FSL SDK (some of the data on the SDK is kept private), and the FSL
> public git seems to be significantly behind (at least meta-fsl-ppc).
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] Currently the recipes update for meta-fsl-ppc in 
public git(git.freescale.com and git.yoctoproject.org) are done when the 
QorIQ SDK is formally released(two major releases per year). We are 
working on the process of more frequent release for QorIQ SDK, and more 
and more packages will be published in public git.

> It seems to me that Freescale should have a customer visible bug
> reporting system in place for their SDK and maintain a complete,
> up-to-date SDK branch with patches in response to the bugs reported &
> closed out.
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] Good suggestion.

> If IP protection is the reason to not do it, then deploy it on an
> extranet that is password protected.
>
> Lastly, is there a mail list for the FSL public git?
[Luo Zhenhua-B19537] There is no dedicated mail list for FSL public git. 
Currently meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org is used by community for 
discussion of FSL SDK. FSL community 
website(https://community.freescale.com/) can also be leveraged to raise 
issue and question.


Best Regards,

Zhenhua


> Thank you,
>
> Bob
>
>
> >
> > We are working on the integration of meta-fsl-ppc layer into FSL Yocto
> community BSP(http://freescale.github.io/), hopefully it can be done in
> 1.7 release.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Zhenhua