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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
Cc: linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>,
	Krishna Reddy <vdumpa@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Optimize partial walk flush for large scatter-gather list
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:29:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61c69d23-324a-85d7-2458-dfff8df9280b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfdabcdec99a4c6e3bf2b3c5eebe067f@codeaurora.org>

On 2021-06-10 12:54, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
> Hi Robin,
> 
> On 2021-06-10 17:03, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 2021-06-10 10:36, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>>> Hi Robin,
>>>
>>> On 2021-06-10 14:38, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-10 06:24, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>>>>> Hi Robin,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-06-10 00:14, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-06-09 15:53, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>>>>>>> Currently for iommu_unmap() of large scatter-gather list with 
>>>>>>> page size
>>>>>>> elements, the majority of time is spent in flushing of partial 
>>>>>>> walks in
>>>>>>> __arm_lpae_unmap() which is a VA based TLB invalidation (TLBIVA for
>>>>>>> arm-smmu).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example: to unmap a 32MB scatter-gather list with page size 
>>>>>>> elements
>>>>>>> (8192 entries), there are 16->2MB buffer unmaps based on the 
>>>>>>> pgsize (2MB
>>>>>>> for 4K granule) and each of 2MB will further result in 512 
>>>>>>> TLBIVAs (2MB/4K)
>>>>>>> resulting in a total of 8192 TLBIVAs (512*16) for 16->2MB causing 
>>>>>>> a huge
>>>>>>> overhead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So instead use io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all() to invalidate the 
>>>>>>> entire context
>>>>>>> if size (pgsize) is greater than the granule size (4K, 16K, 64K). 
>>>>>>> For this
>>>>>>> example of 32MB scatter-gather list unmap, this results in just 
>>>>>>> 16 ASID
>>>>>>> based TLB invalidations or tlb_flush_all() callback (TLBIASID in 
>>>>>>> case of
>>>>>>> arm-smmu) as opposed to 8192 TLBIVAs thereby increasing the 
>>>>>>> performance of
>>>>>>> unmaps drastically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Condition (size > granule size) is chosen for 
>>>>>>> io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all()
>>>>>>> because for any granule with supported pgsizes, we will have at 
>>>>>>> least 512
>>>>>>> TLB invalidations for which tlb_flush_all() is already 
>>>>>>> recommended. For
>>>>>>> example, take 4K granule with 2MB pgsize, this will result in 512 
>>>>>>> TLBIVA
>>>>>>> in partial walk flush.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Test on QTI SM8150 SoC for 10 iterations of iommu_{map_sg}/unmap:
>>>>>>> (average over 10 iterations)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before this optimization:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      size        iommu_map_sg      iommu_unmap
>>>>>>>        4K            2.067 us         1.854 us
>>>>>>>       64K            9.598 us         8.802 us
>>>>>>>        1M          148.890 us       130.718 us
>>>>>>>        2M          305.864 us        67.291 us
>>>>>>>       12M         1793.604 us       390.838 us
>>>>>>>       16M         2386.848 us       518.187 us
>>>>>>>       24M         3563.296 us       775.989 us
>>>>>>>       32M         4747.171 us      1033.364 us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After this optimization:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      size        iommu_map_sg      iommu_unmap
>>>>>>>        4K            1.723 us         1.765 us
>>>>>>>       64K            9.880 us         8.869 us
>>>>>>>        1M          155.364 us       135.223 us
>>>>>>>        2M          303.906 us         5.385 us
>>>>>>>       12M         1786.557 us        21.250 us
>>>>>>>       16M         2391.890 us        27.437 us
>>>>>>>       24M         3570.895 us        39.937 us
>>>>>>>       32M         4755.234 us        51.797 us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is further reduced once the map/unmap_pages() support gets 
>>>>>>> in which
>>>>>>> will result in just 1 tlb_flush_all() as opposed to 16 
>>>>>>> tlb_flush_all().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>   drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c | 7 +++++--
>>>>>>>   1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c 
>>>>>>> b/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c
>>>>>>> index 87def58e79b5..c3cb9add3179 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c
>>>>>>> @@ -589,8 +589,11 @@ static size_t __arm_lpae_unmap(struct 
>>>>>>> arm_lpae_io_pgtable *data,
>>>>>>>             if (!iopte_leaf(pte, lvl, iop->fmt)) {
>>>>>>>               /* Also flush any partial walks */
>>>>>>> -            io_pgtable_tlb_flush_walk(iop, iova, size,
>>>>>>> -                          ARM_LPAE_GRANULE(data));
>>>>>>> +            if (size > ARM_LPAE_GRANULE(data))
>>>>>>> +                io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all(iop);
>>>>>>> +            else
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erm, when will the above condition ever not be true? ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah right, silly me :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Taking a step back, though, what about the impact to drivers other
>>>>>> than SMMUv2?
>>>>>
>>>>> Other drivers would be msm_iommu.c, qcom_iommu.c which does the same
>>>>> thing as arm-smmu-v2 (page based invalidations), then there is 
>>>>> ipmmu-vmsa.c
>>>>> which does tlb_flush_all() for flush walk.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In particular I'm thinking of SMMUv3.2 where the whole
>>>>>> range can be invalidated by VA in a single command anyway, so the
>>>>>> additional penalties of TLBIALL are undesirable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, so I am thinking we can have a new generic quirk 
>>>>> IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_RANGE_INV
>>>>> to choose between range based invalidations(tlb_flush_walk) and 
>>>>> tlb_flush_all().
>>>>> In this case of arm-smmu-v3.2, we can tie up 
>>>>> ARM_SMMU_FEAT_RANGE_INV with this quirk
>>>>> and have something like below, thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> if (iop->cfg.quirks & IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_RANGE_INV)
>>>>>          io_pgtable_tlb_flush_walk(iop, iova, size,
>>>>>                                    ARM_LPAE_GRANULE(data));
>>>>> else
>>>>>          io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all(iop);
>>>>
>>>> The design here has always been that io-pgtable says *what* needs
>>>> invalidating, and we left it up to the drivers to decide exactly
>>>> *how*. Even though things have evolved a bit I don't think that has
>>>> fundamentally changed - tlb_flush_walk is now only used in this one
>>>> place (technically I suppose it could be renamed tlb_flush_table but
>>>> it's not worth the churn), so drivers can implement their own
>>>> preferred table-invalidating behaviour even more easily than choosing
>>>> whether to bounce a quirk through the common code or not. Consider
>>>> what you've already seen for the Renesas IPMMU, or SMMUv1 stage 2...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. If I am not mistaken, I see 
>>> that
>>> you are suggesting to move this logic based on size and granule-size to
>>> arm-smmu-v2 driver and one more thing below..
>>
>> Simpler than that - following on from my original comment above,
>> tlb_flush_walk already knows it's invalidating at least one full level
>> of table so there's nothing it even needs to check. Adding a
>> size-based heuristic to arm_smmu_inv_range_* for leaf invalidations
>> would be a separate concern (note that changing the non-leaf behaviour
>> might allow cleaning up the "reg" indirection there too).
> 
> Right, sorry I didn't mean to mention the size check as it was obvious
> from your first reply, but rather just calling impl->tlb_inv() in
> arm_smmu_tlb_inv_walk_s1().
> 
>>
>>>> I'm instinctively a little twitchy about making this a blanket
>>>> optimisation for SMMUv2 since I still remember the palaver with our
>>>> display and MMU-500 integrations, where it had to implement the dodgy
>>>> "prefetch" register to trigger translations before scanning out a
>>>> frame since it couldn't ever afford a TLB miss, thus TLBIALL when
>>>> freeing an old buffer would be a dangerous hammer to swing. However
>>>> IIRC it also had to ensure everything was mapped as 2MB blocks to
>>>> guarantee fitting everything in the TLBs in the first place, so I
>>>> guess it would still work out OK due to never realistically unmapping
>>>> a whole table at once anyway.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are also hinting to not do this for all SMMUv2 implementations 
>>> and make
>>> it QCOM specific?
>>
>> No, I'm really just wary that the performance implication is more
>> complex than a simple unmap latency benefit, possibly even for QCOM.
>> Consider the access latency, power and memory bandwidth hit from all
>> the additional pagetable walks incurred by other ongoing traffic
>> fighting against those 16 successive TLBIASIDs. Whether it's an
>> overall win really depends on the specific workload and system
>> conditions as much as the SMMU implementation.
> 
> No, the unmap latency is not just in some test case written, the issue
> is very real and we have workloads where camera is reporting frame drops
> because of this unmap latency in the order of 100s of milliseconds.
> And hardware team recommends using ASID based invalidations for anything
> larger than 128 TLB entries. So yes, we have taken note of impacts here
> before going this way and hence feel more inclined to make this qcom
> specific if required.

OK, that's good to know. I never suggested that CPU unmap latency wasn't 
a valid concern in itself - obviously spending millions of cycles in, 
say, an interrupt handler doing pointless busy work has some serious 
downsides - just that it might not always be the most important concern 
for everyone, so I wanted to make sure this discussion was had in the open.

TBH I *am* inclined to make this a core SMMU driver change provided 
nobody pops up with a strong counter-argument.

>> Thinking some more, I
>> wonder if the Tegra folks might have an opinion to add here, given
>> that their multiple-SMMU solution was seemingly about trying to get
>> enough TLB and pagetable walk bandwidth in the first place?
>>
> 
> Sure but I do not see how that will help with the unmap latency?

It won't. However it implies a use-case which is already sensitive to 
translation bandwidth, and thus is somewhat more likely to be sensitive 
to over-invalidation. But even then they also have more to gain from 
reducing the number of MMIO writes that have to be duplicated :)

Thanks,
Robin.

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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
Cc: linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Optimize partial walk flush for large scatter-gather list
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:29:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61c69d23-324a-85d7-2458-dfff8df9280b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfdabcdec99a4c6e3bf2b3c5eebe067f@codeaurora.org>

On 2021-06-10 12:54, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
> Hi Robin,
> 
> On 2021-06-10 17:03, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 2021-06-10 10:36, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>>> Hi Robin,
>>>
>>> On 2021-06-10 14:38, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-10 06:24, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>>>>> Hi Robin,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-06-10 00:14, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-06-09 15:53, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>>>>>>> Currently for iommu_unmap() of large scatter-gather list with 
>>>>>>> page size
>>>>>>> elements, the majority of time is spent in flushing of partial 
>>>>>>> walks in
>>>>>>> __arm_lpae_unmap() which is a VA based TLB invalidation (TLBIVA for
>>>>>>> arm-smmu).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example: to unmap a 32MB scatter-gather list with page size 
>>>>>>> elements
>>>>>>> (8192 entries), there are 16->2MB buffer unmaps based on the 
>>>>>>> pgsize (2MB
>>>>>>> for 4K granule) and each of 2MB will further result in 512 
>>>>>>> TLBIVAs (2MB/4K)
>>>>>>> resulting in a total of 8192 TLBIVAs (512*16) for 16->2MB causing 
>>>>>>> a huge
>>>>>>> overhead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So instead use io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all() to invalidate the 
>>>>>>> entire context
>>>>>>> if size (pgsize) is greater than the granule size (4K, 16K, 64K). 
>>>>>>> For this
>>>>>>> example of 32MB scatter-gather list unmap, this results in just 
>>>>>>> 16 ASID
>>>>>>> based TLB invalidations or tlb_flush_all() callback (TLBIASID in 
>>>>>>> case of
>>>>>>> arm-smmu) as opposed to 8192 TLBIVAs thereby increasing the 
>>>>>>> performance of
>>>>>>> unmaps drastically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Condition (size > granule size) is chosen for 
>>>>>>> io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all()
>>>>>>> because for any granule with supported pgsizes, we will have at 
>>>>>>> least 512
>>>>>>> TLB invalidations for which tlb_flush_all() is already 
>>>>>>> recommended. For
>>>>>>> example, take 4K granule with 2MB pgsize, this will result in 512 
>>>>>>> TLBIVA
>>>>>>> in partial walk flush.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Test on QTI SM8150 SoC for 10 iterations of iommu_{map_sg}/unmap:
>>>>>>> (average over 10 iterations)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before this optimization:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      size        iommu_map_sg      iommu_unmap
>>>>>>>        4K            2.067 us         1.854 us
>>>>>>>       64K            9.598 us         8.802 us
>>>>>>>        1M          148.890 us       130.718 us
>>>>>>>        2M          305.864 us        67.291 us
>>>>>>>       12M         1793.604 us       390.838 us
>>>>>>>       16M         2386.848 us       518.187 us
>>>>>>>       24M         3563.296 us       775.989 us
>>>>>>>       32M         4747.171 us      1033.364 us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After this optimization:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      size        iommu_map_sg      iommu_unmap
>>>>>>>        4K            1.723 us         1.765 us
>>>>>>>       64K            9.880 us         8.869 us
>>>>>>>        1M          155.364 us       135.223 us
>>>>>>>        2M          303.906 us         5.385 us
>>>>>>>       12M         1786.557 us        21.250 us
>>>>>>>       16M         2391.890 us        27.437 us
>>>>>>>       24M         3570.895 us        39.937 us
>>>>>>>       32M         4755.234 us        51.797 us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is further reduced once the map/unmap_pages() support gets 
>>>>>>> in which
>>>>>>> will result in just 1 tlb_flush_all() as opposed to 16 
>>>>>>> tlb_flush_all().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>   drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c | 7 +++++--
>>>>>>>   1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c 
>>>>>>> b/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c
>>>>>>> index 87def58e79b5..c3cb9add3179 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c
>>>>>>> @@ -589,8 +589,11 @@ static size_t __arm_lpae_unmap(struct 
>>>>>>> arm_lpae_io_pgtable *data,
>>>>>>>             if (!iopte_leaf(pte, lvl, iop->fmt)) {
>>>>>>>               /* Also flush any partial walks */
>>>>>>> -            io_pgtable_tlb_flush_walk(iop, iova, size,
>>>>>>> -                          ARM_LPAE_GRANULE(data));
>>>>>>> +            if (size > ARM_LPAE_GRANULE(data))
>>>>>>> +                io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all(iop);
>>>>>>> +            else
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erm, when will the above condition ever not be true? ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah right, silly me :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Taking a step back, though, what about the impact to drivers other
>>>>>> than SMMUv2?
>>>>>
>>>>> Other drivers would be msm_iommu.c, qcom_iommu.c which does the same
>>>>> thing as arm-smmu-v2 (page based invalidations), then there is 
>>>>> ipmmu-vmsa.c
>>>>> which does tlb_flush_all() for flush walk.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In particular I'm thinking of SMMUv3.2 where the whole
>>>>>> range can be invalidated by VA in a single command anyway, so the
>>>>>> additional penalties of TLBIALL are undesirable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, so I am thinking we can have a new generic quirk 
>>>>> IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_RANGE_INV
>>>>> to choose between range based invalidations(tlb_flush_walk) and 
>>>>> tlb_flush_all().
>>>>> In this case of arm-smmu-v3.2, we can tie up 
>>>>> ARM_SMMU_FEAT_RANGE_INV with this quirk
>>>>> and have something like below, thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> if (iop->cfg.quirks & IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_RANGE_INV)
>>>>>          io_pgtable_tlb_flush_walk(iop, iova, size,
>>>>>                                    ARM_LPAE_GRANULE(data));
>>>>> else
>>>>>          io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all(iop);
>>>>
>>>> The design here has always been that io-pgtable says *what* needs
>>>> invalidating, and we left it up to the drivers to decide exactly
>>>> *how*. Even though things have evolved a bit I don't think that has
>>>> fundamentally changed - tlb_flush_walk is now only used in this one
>>>> place (technically I suppose it could be renamed tlb_flush_table but
>>>> it's not worth the churn), so drivers can implement their own
>>>> preferred table-invalidating behaviour even more easily than choosing
>>>> whether to bounce a quirk through the common code or not. Consider
>>>> what you've already seen for the Renesas IPMMU, or SMMUv1 stage 2...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. If I am not mistaken, I see 
>>> that
>>> you are suggesting to move this logic based on size and granule-size to
>>> arm-smmu-v2 driver and one more thing below..
>>
>> Simpler than that - following on from my original comment above,
>> tlb_flush_walk already knows it's invalidating at least one full level
>> of table so there's nothing it even needs to check. Adding a
>> size-based heuristic to arm_smmu_inv_range_* for leaf invalidations
>> would be a separate concern (note that changing the non-leaf behaviour
>> might allow cleaning up the "reg" indirection there too).
> 
> Right, sorry I didn't mean to mention the size check as it was obvious
> from your first reply, but rather just calling impl->tlb_inv() in
> arm_smmu_tlb_inv_walk_s1().
> 
>>
>>>> I'm instinctively a little twitchy about making this a blanket
>>>> optimisation for SMMUv2 since I still remember the palaver with our
>>>> display and MMU-500 integrations, where it had to implement the dodgy
>>>> "prefetch" register to trigger translations before scanning out a
>>>> frame since it couldn't ever afford a TLB miss, thus TLBIALL when
>>>> freeing an old buffer would be a dangerous hammer to swing. However
>>>> IIRC it also had to ensure everything was mapped as 2MB blocks to
>>>> guarantee fitting everything in the TLBs in the first place, so I
>>>> guess it would still work out OK due to never realistically unmapping
>>>> a whole table at once anyway.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are also hinting to not do this for all SMMUv2 implementations 
>>> and make
>>> it QCOM specific?
>>
>> No, I'm really just wary that the performance implication is more
>> complex than a simple unmap latency benefit, possibly even for QCOM.
>> Consider the access latency, power and memory bandwidth hit from all
>> the additional pagetable walks incurred by other ongoing traffic
>> fighting against those 16 successive TLBIASIDs. Whether it's an
>> overall win really depends on the specific workload and system
>> conditions as much as the SMMU implementation.
> 
> No, the unmap latency is not just in some test case written, the issue
> is very real and we have workloads where camera is reporting frame drops
> because of this unmap latency in the order of 100s of milliseconds.
> And hardware team recommends using ASID based invalidations for anything
> larger than 128 TLB entries. So yes, we have taken note of impacts here
> before going this way and hence feel more inclined to make this qcom
> specific if required.

OK, that's good to know. I never suggested that CPU unmap latency wasn't 
a valid concern in itself - obviously spending millions of cycles in, 
say, an interrupt handler doing pointless busy work has some serious 
downsides - just that it might not always be the most important concern 
for everyone, so I wanted to make sure this discussion was had in the open.

TBH I *am* inclined to make this a core SMMU driver change provided 
nobody pops up with a strong counter-argument.

>> Thinking some more, I
>> wonder if the Tegra folks might have an opinion to add here, given
>> that their multiple-SMMU solution was seemingly about trying to get
>> enough TLB and pagetable walk bandwidth in the first place?
>>
> 
> Sure but I do not see how that will help with the unmap latency?

It won't. However it implies a use-case which is already sensitive to 
translation bandwidth, and thus is somewhat more likely to be sensitive 
to over-invalidation. But even then they also have more to gain from 
reducing the number of MMIO writes that have to be duplicated :)

Thanks,
Robin.
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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
Cc: linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Optimize partial walk flush for large scatter-gather list
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:29:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61c69d23-324a-85d7-2458-dfff8df9280b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfdabcdec99a4c6e3bf2b3c5eebe067f@codeaurora.org>

On 2021-06-10 12:54, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
> Hi Robin,
> 
> On 2021-06-10 17:03, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 2021-06-10 10:36, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>>> Hi Robin,
>>>
>>> On 2021-06-10 14:38, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>>> On 2021-06-10 06:24, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>>>>> Hi Robin,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-06-10 00:14, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-06-09 15:53, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
>>>>>>> Currently for iommu_unmap() of large scatter-gather list with 
>>>>>>> page size
>>>>>>> elements, the majority of time is spent in flushing of partial 
>>>>>>> walks in
>>>>>>> __arm_lpae_unmap() which is a VA based TLB invalidation (TLBIVA for
>>>>>>> arm-smmu).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example: to unmap a 32MB scatter-gather list with page size 
>>>>>>> elements
>>>>>>> (8192 entries), there are 16->2MB buffer unmaps based on the 
>>>>>>> pgsize (2MB
>>>>>>> for 4K granule) and each of 2MB will further result in 512 
>>>>>>> TLBIVAs (2MB/4K)
>>>>>>> resulting in a total of 8192 TLBIVAs (512*16) for 16->2MB causing 
>>>>>>> a huge
>>>>>>> overhead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So instead use io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all() to invalidate the 
>>>>>>> entire context
>>>>>>> if size (pgsize) is greater than the granule size (4K, 16K, 64K). 
>>>>>>> For this
>>>>>>> example of 32MB scatter-gather list unmap, this results in just 
>>>>>>> 16 ASID
>>>>>>> based TLB invalidations or tlb_flush_all() callback (TLBIASID in 
>>>>>>> case of
>>>>>>> arm-smmu) as opposed to 8192 TLBIVAs thereby increasing the 
>>>>>>> performance of
>>>>>>> unmaps drastically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Condition (size > granule size) is chosen for 
>>>>>>> io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all()
>>>>>>> because for any granule with supported pgsizes, we will have at 
>>>>>>> least 512
>>>>>>> TLB invalidations for which tlb_flush_all() is already 
>>>>>>> recommended. For
>>>>>>> example, take 4K granule with 2MB pgsize, this will result in 512 
>>>>>>> TLBIVA
>>>>>>> in partial walk flush.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Test on QTI SM8150 SoC for 10 iterations of iommu_{map_sg}/unmap:
>>>>>>> (average over 10 iterations)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before this optimization:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      size        iommu_map_sg      iommu_unmap
>>>>>>>        4K            2.067 us         1.854 us
>>>>>>>       64K            9.598 us         8.802 us
>>>>>>>        1M          148.890 us       130.718 us
>>>>>>>        2M          305.864 us        67.291 us
>>>>>>>       12M         1793.604 us       390.838 us
>>>>>>>       16M         2386.848 us       518.187 us
>>>>>>>       24M         3563.296 us       775.989 us
>>>>>>>       32M         4747.171 us      1033.364 us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After this optimization:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      size        iommu_map_sg      iommu_unmap
>>>>>>>        4K            1.723 us         1.765 us
>>>>>>>       64K            9.880 us         8.869 us
>>>>>>>        1M          155.364 us       135.223 us
>>>>>>>        2M          303.906 us         5.385 us
>>>>>>>       12M         1786.557 us        21.250 us
>>>>>>>       16M         2391.890 us        27.437 us
>>>>>>>       24M         3570.895 us        39.937 us
>>>>>>>       32M         4755.234 us        51.797 us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is further reduced once the map/unmap_pages() support gets 
>>>>>>> in which
>>>>>>> will result in just 1 tlb_flush_all() as opposed to 16 
>>>>>>> tlb_flush_all().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@codeaurora.org>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>   drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c | 7 +++++--
>>>>>>>   1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c 
>>>>>>> b/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c
>>>>>>> index 87def58e79b5..c3cb9add3179 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c
>>>>>>> @@ -589,8 +589,11 @@ static size_t __arm_lpae_unmap(struct 
>>>>>>> arm_lpae_io_pgtable *data,
>>>>>>>             if (!iopte_leaf(pte, lvl, iop->fmt)) {
>>>>>>>               /* Also flush any partial walks */
>>>>>>> -            io_pgtable_tlb_flush_walk(iop, iova, size,
>>>>>>> -                          ARM_LPAE_GRANULE(data));
>>>>>>> +            if (size > ARM_LPAE_GRANULE(data))
>>>>>>> +                io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all(iop);
>>>>>>> +            else
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erm, when will the above condition ever not be true? ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah right, silly me :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Taking a step back, though, what about the impact to drivers other
>>>>>> than SMMUv2?
>>>>>
>>>>> Other drivers would be msm_iommu.c, qcom_iommu.c which does the same
>>>>> thing as arm-smmu-v2 (page based invalidations), then there is 
>>>>> ipmmu-vmsa.c
>>>>> which does tlb_flush_all() for flush walk.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In particular I'm thinking of SMMUv3.2 where the whole
>>>>>> range can be invalidated by VA in a single command anyway, so the
>>>>>> additional penalties of TLBIALL are undesirable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, so I am thinking we can have a new generic quirk 
>>>>> IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_RANGE_INV
>>>>> to choose between range based invalidations(tlb_flush_walk) and 
>>>>> tlb_flush_all().
>>>>> In this case of arm-smmu-v3.2, we can tie up 
>>>>> ARM_SMMU_FEAT_RANGE_INV with this quirk
>>>>> and have something like below, thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> if (iop->cfg.quirks & IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_RANGE_INV)
>>>>>          io_pgtable_tlb_flush_walk(iop, iova, size,
>>>>>                                    ARM_LPAE_GRANULE(data));
>>>>> else
>>>>>          io_pgtable_tlb_flush_all(iop);
>>>>
>>>> The design here has always been that io-pgtable says *what* needs
>>>> invalidating, and we left it up to the drivers to decide exactly
>>>> *how*. Even though things have evolved a bit I don't think that has
>>>> fundamentally changed - tlb_flush_walk is now only used in this one
>>>> place (technically I suppose it could be renamed tlb_flush_table but
>>>> it's not worth the churn), so drivers can implement their own
>>>> preferred table-invalidating behaviour even more easily than choosing
>>>> whether to bounce a quirk through the common code or not. Consider
>>>> what you've already seen for the Renesas IPMMU, or SMMUv1 stage 2...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. If I am not mistaken, I see 
>>> that
>>> you are suggesting to move this logic based on size and granule-size to
>>> arm-smmu-v2 driver and one more thing below..
>>
>> Simpler than that - following on from my original comment above,
>> tlb_flush_walk already knows it's invalidating at least one full level
>> of table so there's nothing it even needs to check. Adding a
>> size-based heuristic to arm_smmu_inv_range_* for leaf invalidations
>> would be a separate concern (note that changing the non-leaf behaviour
>> might allow cleaning up the "reg" indirection there too).
> 
> Right, sorry I didn't mean to mention the size check as it was obvious
> from your first reply, but rather just calling impl->tlb_inv() in
> arm_smmu_tlb_inv_walk_s1().
> 
>>
>>>> I'm instinctively a little twitchy about making this a blanket
>>>> optimisation for SMMUv2 since I still remember the palaver with our
>>>> display and MMU-500 integrations, where it had to implement the dodgy
>>>> "prefetch" register to trigger translations before scanning out a
>>>> frame since it couldn't ever afford a TLB miss, thus TLBIALL when
>>>> freeing an old buffer would be a dangerous hammer to swing. However
>>>> IIRC it also had to ensure everything was mapped as 2MB blocks to
>>>> guarantee fitting everything in the TLBs in the first place, so I
>>>> guess it would still work out OK due to never realistically unmapping
>>>> a whole table at once anyway.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are also hinting to not do this for all SMMUv2 implementations 
>>> and make
>>> it QCOM specific?
>>
>> No, I'm really just wary that the performance implication is more
>> complex than a simple unmap latency benefit, possibly even for QCOM.
>> Consider the access latency, power and memory bandwidth hit from all
>> the additional pagetable walks incurred by other ongoing traffic
>> fighting against those 16 successive TLBIASIDs. Whether it's an
>> overall win really depends on the specific workload and system
>> conditions as much as the SMMU implementation.
> 
> No, the unmap latency is not just in some test case written, the issue
> is very real and we have workloads where camera is reporting frame drops
> because of this unmap latency in the order of 100s of milliseconds.
> And hardware team recommends using ASID based invalidations for anything
> larger than 128 TLB entries. So yes, we have taken note of impacts here
> before going this way and hence feel more inclined to make this qcom
> specific if required.

OK, that's good to know. I never suggested that CPU unmap latency wasn't 
a valid concern in itself - obviously spending millions of cycles in, 
say, an interrupt handler doing pointless busy work has some serious 
downsides - just that it might not always be the most important concern 
for everyone, so I wanted to make sure this discussion was had in the open.

TBH I *am* inclined to make this a core SMMU driver change provided 
nobody pops up with a strong counter-argument.

>> Thinking some more, I
>> wonder if the Tegra folks might have an opinion to add here, given
>> that their multiple-SMMU solution was seemingly about trying to get
>> enough TLB and pagetable walk bandwidth in the first place?
>>
> 
> Sure but I do not see how that will help with the unmap latency?

It won't. However it implies a use-case which is already sensitive to 
translation bandwidth, and thus is somewhat more likely to be sensitive 
to over-invalidation. But even then they also have more to gain from 
reducing the number of MMIO writes that have to be duplicated :)

Thanks,
Robin.

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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-09 14:53 [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Optimize partial walk flush for large scatter-gather list Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-09 14:53 ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-09 18:44 ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-09 18:44   ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-09 18:44   ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-10  5:24   ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-10  5:24     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-10  9:08     ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-10  9:08       ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-10  9:08       ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-10  9:36       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-10  9:36         ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-10 11:33         ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-10 11:33           ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-10 11:33           ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-10 11:54           ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-10 11:54             ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-10 15:29             ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2021-06-10 15:29               ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-10 15:29               ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-10 15:51               ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-10 15:51                 ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-11  0:37               ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-11  0:37                 ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-11  0:37                 ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-11  0:54                 ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-11  0:54                   ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-11 16:49                   ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-11 16:49                     ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-11 16:49                     ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-12  2:46                     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-12  2:46                       ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-14 17:48                       ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-14 17:48                         ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-14 17:48                         ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-15 11:51                         ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-15 11:51                           ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-15 13:53                           ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-15 13:53                             ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-15 13:53                             ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-16  6:58                             ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-16  6:58                               ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-16  9:03                               ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-16  9:03                                 ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-17 21:18                                 ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-17 21:18                                   ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-17 21:18                                   ` Krishna Reddy
2021-06-18  2:47                                   ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-18  2:47                                     ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-18  4:04                           ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-18  4:04                             ` Sai Prakash Ranjan
2021-06-10 12:03           ` Thierry Reding
2021-06-10 12:03             ` Thierry Reding
2021-06-10 12:03             ` Thierry Reding

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