From: Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com> To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>, Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>, Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>, Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] KVM: arm64: switch HCRX_EL2 between host and guest Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 18:42:00 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <62d945d6-acde-0d26-1014-48b44cf85be8@arm.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <86o7pty3dm.wl-maz@kernel.org> On 16/02/2023 16:35, Marc Zyngier wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 16:00:05 +0000, > Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com> wrote: >> >> Switch the HCRX_EL2 register between host and guest configurations, in >> order to enable different features in the host and guest. >> >> Note that the guest flags are only set if all CPUs have HCRX_EL2. >> Asymmetric systems where only some CPUs have HCRX_EL2 are not supported >> and will result in guests running with the host flags set (and a "SANITY >> CHECK" warning printed for the host). >> >> After this change, SMPME is no longer set for guests, which should have >> no effect as SME is currently disabled for guests. > > Why not preserve the behaviour by propagating the flag into the guest > setup? I thought it made more sense to disable SMPME given that SME is not supported in guests yet (and that the existing behavior was just a side effect of not having support for switching HCRX), but I'd misunderstood what SMPME is for, and following Mark's explanation I'll actually preserve the behavior for guests, but now disable SMPME for the host instead (as SME priority mapping has no benefit in the host and is not intended to be used there). > >> >> Signed-off-by: Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com> >> --- >> >> I wasn't sure what to do about asymmetric systems. It seems a bit >> fragile, maybe someone has a better idea? > > I would simply prevent these CPUs from booting if they come after a > primary CPU that has the feature. I considered that but the concern I heard was that since virtualization is an optional feature then people may still want to use the system without it. > These hypothetical asymmetric setups > put a huge complexity on the kernel, and I'm worried that we're just > giving implementers too much freedom. > > If someone comes up with that sort of stuff, they can write the > patches themselves... I'll make it panic on a mismatch for now and it can be revisited in the future if such a system actually appears (which does seem very unlikely). > Or do you know of any braindead setup involving > an asymmetric FEAT_HCX implementation? Nope don't know of one, it was just hypothetical. Thanks, Kristina
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From: Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com> To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>, Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>, Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>, Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] KVM: arm64: switch HCRX_EL2 between host and guest Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 18:42:00 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <62d945d6-acde-0d26-1014-48b44cf85be8@arm.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <86o7pty3dm.wl-maz@kernel.org> On 16/02/2023 16:35, Marc Zyngier wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 16:00:05 +0000, > Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com> wrote: >> >> Switch the HCRX_EL2 register between host and guest configurations, in >> order to enable different features in the host and guest. >> >> Note that the guest flags are only set if all CPUs have HCRX_EL2. >> Asymmetric systems where only some CPUs have HCRX_EL2 are not supported >> and will result in guests running with the host flags set (and a "SANITY >> CHECK" warning printed for the host). >> >> After this change, SMPME is no longer set for guests, which should have >> no effect as SME is currently disabled for guests. > > Why not preserve the behaviour by propagating the flag into the guest > setup? I thought it made more sense to disable SMPME given that SME is not supported in guests yet (and that the existing behavior was just a side effect of not having support for switching HCRX), but I'd misunderstood what SMPME is for, and following Mark's explanation I'll actually preserve the behavior for guests, but now disable SMPME for the host instead (as SME priority mapping has no benefit in the host and is not intended to be used there). > >> >> Signed-off-by: Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com> >> --- >> >> I wasn't sure what to do about asymmetric systems. It seems a bit >> fragile, maybe someone has a better idea? > > I would simply prevent these CPUs from booting if they come after a > primary CPU that has the feature. I considered that but the concern I heard was that since virtualization is an optional feature then people may still want to use the system without it. > These hypothetical asymmetric setups > put a huge complexity on the kernel, and I'm worried that we're just > giving implementers too much freedom. > > If someone comes up with that sort of stuff, they can write the > patches themselves... I'll make it panic on a mismatch for now and it can be revisited in the future if such a system actually appears (which does seem very unlikely). > Or do you know of any braindead setup involving > an asymmetric FEAT_HCX implementation? Nope don't know of one, it was just hypothetical. Thanks, Kristina _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-22 18:56 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2023-02-16 16:00 [PATCH 00/10] arm64: support Armv8.8 memcpy instructions in userspace Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] KVM: arm64: initialize HCRX_EL2 Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-03-17 14:25 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-17 14:25 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 02/10] arm64: cpufeature: detect FEAT_HCX Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-03-17 14:25 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-17 14:25 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 03/10] KVM: arm64: switch HCRX_EL2 between host and guest Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:20 ` Mark Brown 2023-02-16 16:20 ` Mark Brown 2023-02-22 18:36 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-22 18:36 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:35 ` Marc Zyngier 2023-02-16 16:35 ` Marc Zyngier 2023-02-22 18:42 ` Kristina Martsenko [this message] 2023-02-22 18:42 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 04/10] arm64: mops: document boot requirements for MOPS Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-03-17 15:07 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-17 15:07 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-24 1:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-03-24 1:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-04-04 10:50 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-04-04 10:50 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-04-11 16:57 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-04-11 16:57 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 05/10] arm64: mops: don't disable host MOPS instructions from EL2 Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-03-17 15:07 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-17 15:07 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 06/10] KVM: arm64: hide MOPS from guests Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-03-17 15:09 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-17 15:09 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 07/10] arm64: mops: handle MOPS exceptions Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-03-17 15:45 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-17 15:45 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 08/10] arm64: mops: handle single stepping after MOPS exception Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-03-17 16:02 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-17 16:02 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 09/10] arm64: mops: detect and enable FEAT_MOPS Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:22 ` Mark Brown 2023-02-16 16:22 ` Mark Brown 2023-03-17 16:03 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-17 16:03 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-02-16 16:00 ` [PATCH 10/10] arm64: mops: allow disabling MOPS from the kernel command line Kristina Martsenko 2023-02-16 16:00 ` Kristina Martsenko 2023-03-17 16:04 ` Catalin Marinas 2023-03-17 16:04 ` Catalin Marinas
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