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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Tushar Sugandhi <tusharsu@linux.microsoft.com>,
	noodles@fb.com, bauermann@kolabnow.com,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Cc: code@tyhicks.com, nramas@linux.microsoft.com,
	paul@paul-moore.com, Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] ima: implement function to allocate buffer at kexec load
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:11:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66ca5d5504291161d887d141bc43ce2a4c14ff8c.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31eb2a9c-7410-b655-43d2-3b2966d2d3da@linux.microsoft.com>

On Tue, 2023-07-11 at 10:59 -0700, Tushar Sugandhi wrote:
> Adding Eric to cc.
> 
> On 7/7/23 06:00, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > Hi Tushar,
> >
> > On Mon, 2023-07-03 at 14:57 -0700, Tushar Sugandhi wrote:
> >> IMA does not provide a mechanism to allocate memory for IMA log storage
> >> during kexec operation.
> > The IMA measurement list is currently being carried across kexec, so
> > obviously a buffer is being allocated for it.  IMA not allocating
> > memory for the measurment list is not the problem statement.  Please
> > concisely provide the problem statement, explaining why IMA needs to
> > allocate the buffer.
> >
> I meant IMA does not provide separate functions to allocate buffer and
> populate measurements.  Both operations are wrapped in an atomic
> ima_dump_measurement_list().

Ok.

> As I mentioned in the comment in the cover letter, if there is no such
> technical limitation to allocate the buffer and copy the measurements at
> kexec ‘execute’ – I will make the necessary code changes and update the
> above line in the patch description accordingly.

The "normal" way of making this type of change would be to split the
existing ima_dump_measurement_list() function.  Copying the measurement
list would still be named ima_dump_measurement_list().  The other could
be named ima_alloc_kexec_buf().  Both functions initially would be
called.

Eric, besides updating the buffer at kexec execute, is there anything
else that needs to be done (e.g. updating digests)?

> >> The function should handle the scenario where
> >> the kexec load is called multiple times.
> > Currently the buffer is being freed with the kexec 'unload'.  With this
> > patch IMA is allocating a buffer for the measurement list, which needs
> > to be freed independently of the kexec 'unload'.

> If we end up allocating the buffer at kexec ‘execute’ (which results in
> soft boot to next Kernel) – is it technically possible that
> kexec ‘unload’ being called after calling kexec ‘execute’?

> If not, should I still free the buffer at kexec ‘unload’ in this
> scenario?

The question is how to access the buffer once kexec_add_buffer() is
called.

Mimi


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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Tushar Sugandhi <tusharsu@linux.microsoft.com>,
	noodles@fb.com, bauermann@kolabnow.com,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Cc: code@tyhicks.com, nramas@linux.microsoft.com,
	paul@paul-moore.com, Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] ima: implement function to allocate buffer at kexec load
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:11:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66ca5d5504291161d887d141bc43ce2a4c14ff8c.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31eb2a9c-7410-b655-43d2-3b2966d2d3da@linux.microsoft.com>

On Tue, 2023-07-11 at 10:59 -0700, Tushar Sugandhi wrote:
> Adding Eric to cc.
> 
> On 7/7/23 06:00, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > Hi Tushar,
> >
> > On Mon, 2023-07-03 at 14:57 -0700, Tushar Sugandhi wrote:
> >> IMA does not provide a mechanism to allocate memory for IMA log storage
> >> during kexec operation.
> > The IMA measurement list is currently being carried across kexec, so
> > obviously a buffer is being allocated for it.  IMA not allocating
> > memory for the measurment list is not the problem statement.  Please
> > concisely provide the problem statement, explaining why IMA needs to
> > allocate the buffer.
> >
> I meant IMA does not provide separate functions to allocate buffer and
> populate measurements.  Both operations are wrapped in an atomic
> ima_dump_measurement_list().

Ok.

> As I mentioned in the comment in the cover letter, if there is no such
> technical limitation to allocate the buffer and copy the measurements at
> kexec ‘execute’ – I will make the necessary code changes and update the
> above line in the patch description accordingly.

The "normal" way of making this type of change would be to split the
existing ima_dump_measurement_list() function.  Copying the measurement
list would still be named ima_dump_measurement_list().  The other could
be named ima_alloc_kexec_buf().  Both functions initially would be
called.

Eric, besides updating the buffer at kexec execute, is there anything
else that needs to be done (e.g. updating digests)?

> >> The function should handle the scenario where
> >> the kexec load is called multiple times.
> > Currently the buffer is being freed with the kexec 'unload'.  With this
> > patch IMA is allocating a buffer for the measurement list, which needs
> > to be freed independently of the kexec 'unload'.

> If we end up allocating the buffer at kexec ‘execute’ (which results in
> soft boot to next Kernel) – is it technically possible that
> kexec ‘unload’ being called after calling kexec ‘execute’?

> If not, should I still free the buffer at kexec ‘unload’ in this
> scenario?

The question is how to access the buffer once kexec_add_buffer() is
called.

Mimi


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-11 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-03 21:56 [PATCH 00/10] ima: measure events between kexec load and execute Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:56 ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 01/10] ima: implement function to allocate buffer at kexec load Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-07 13:00   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-07 13:00     ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-11 17:59     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 17:59       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 21:11       ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2023-07-11 21:11         ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-12 19:49         ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-12 19:49           ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 02/10] ima: implement function to populate buffer at kexec execute Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-07 13:00   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-07 13:00     ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-11 18:05     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 18:05       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 03/10] ima: allocate buffer at kexec load to hold ima measurements Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-07 13:01   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-07 13:01     ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-11 18:31     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 18:31       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 20:16   ` Stefan Berger
2023-07-11 20:16     ` Stefan Berger
2023-07-12 19:39     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-12 19:39       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 04/10] ima: implement functions to suspend and resume measurements Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 05/10] kexec: implement functions to map and unmap segment to kimage Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-07 12:28   ` Stefan Berger
2023-07-07 12:28     ` Stefan Berger
2023-07-11 18:41     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 18:41       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 19:19       ` Stefan Berger
2023-07-11 19:19         ` Stefan Berger
2023-07-12 19:51         ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-12 19:51           ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 06/10] ima: update buffer at kexec execute with ima measurements Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-07 15:01   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-07 15:01     ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-07 19:49     ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-07 19:49       ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-11 19:08       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 19:08         ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-12 15:45         ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-12 15:45           ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-11 19:05     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 19:05       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 07/10] ima: remove function ima_dump_measurement_list Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-07 13:55   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-07 13:55     ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-11 19:11     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 19:11       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 08/10] ima: implement and register a reboot notifier function to update kexec buffer Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 09/10] ima: suspend measurements while the kexec buffer is being copied Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57 ` [PATCH 10/10] kexec: update kexec_file_load syscall to call ima_kexec_post_load Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-03 21:57   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-07  8:20   ` RuiRui Yang
2023-07-07  8:20     ` RuiRui Yang
2023-07-11 19:14     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 19:14       ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-12  1:28       ` RuiRui Yang
2023-07-12  1:28         ` RuiRui Yang
2023-07-12 19:30         ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-12 19:30           ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-07  8:18 ` [PATCH 00/10] ima: measure events between kexec load and execute Dave Young
2023-07-07  8:18   ` Dave Young
2023-07-11 17:52   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 17:52     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-07 15:55 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-07 15:55   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-07-11 17:51   ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-07-11 17:51     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-09-22 18:59     ` Tushar Sugandhi
2023-09-22 18:59       ` Tushar Sugandhi

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