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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk>
Cc: Terry Hu <kejia.hu@codethink.co.uk>,
	Device Tree list <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	jorgesanjuan <jorge.sanjuan@codethink.co.uk>,
	Thomas Preston <thomas.preston@codethink.co.uk>,
	linux-tegra <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Beth White <beth.white@codethink.co.uk>
Subject: Re: RFC: tegra2/tegra3 automotive part changes
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:25:26 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <676bc8b6-e3de-8e4b-668a-713edcf663b7@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2e51c020-bca4-1e50-f0ad-cd2ece224cf8@codethink.co.uk>

On 07/20/2018 04:25 AM, Ben Dooks wrote:
> On 13/07/18 17:53, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 07/13/2018 03:41 AM, Ben Dooks wrote:
>>> On 12/07/18 16:56, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> On 07/12/2018 07:36 AM, Ben Dooks wrote:
>>>>> Hello, we are looking at up-streaming some of the work we have
>>>>> done on the tegra2 and tegra3 automotive devices. The automotive
>>>>> grade devices are close the commercial parts so we would like to
>>>>> discuss the core changes before submitting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The changes are mostly with things like the clock setup and a
>>>>> few peripheral quirks (IIRC these are mostly MMC).
>>>>>
>>>>> We are proposing to change the device-tree properties for the root
>>>>> node and any other affected devices from "nvidia,tegraXX" to a new
>>>>> "nvidia,tegraXXa". We would welcome discussion on whether to update
>>>>> all the devices at the start
>>>>>
>>>>> An example of tegra30a.dtsi:
>>>>>
>>>>> #include "tegra30.dtsi"
>>>>>
>>>>> / {
>>>>>          compatible = "nvidia,tegra30a";
>>>>>
>>>>>          clock@60006000 {
>>>>>                  compatible = "nvidia,tegra30a-car";
>>>>>          };
>>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> This doesn't sound right. Auto and commercial parts are identical 
>>>> AFAIK; it's just qualification differences. Hence at most you'd add 
>>>> an extra compatible value and not remove the old one. Better might 
>>>> be to detect this at run-time from the fuses. I think we already do 
>>>> some of that already; search for speedo related code in 
>>>> arch/arm/mach-tegra/.
>>>
>>> The nvidia pdk for the automotive didn't set the clocks up in the
>>> same way and we where told that there are certain clock restrictions
>>> for the automotive parts that the commercial ones do not have. Some of
>>> this came from internal discussions with nvidia and NDA'd datasheets
>>> so I don't know how much actual data I can share.
>>
>> I believe this just changes the *selection* of values to use (clock 
>> rates, clock sources), not *how* to program them (set of registers and 
>> fields, programming algorithm), which is what the DT compatible is 
>> mainly about. In other words, it's mainly a performance/configuration 
>> decision not different HW.
>>
>>> To get the 4.4 kernel to be similar enough to work with the tegra30a
>>> we had to do some changes to the clock initialisation. For things
>>> like the clock I am not sure if leaving a tegra30-car in there would
>>> be a good idea, it may boot but probably won't be stable.
>>>
>>> For the fuses, is the fuse driver up early enough to allow the clock
>>> driver could use this? otherwise I think the device-tree change would
>>> be the only way. I'm not sure if I have the information to hand on
>>> how to differentiate the tegra30 and tegra20.
>>>
>>> PS, we'll want to do the same for the tegra20.
>>
>> As Job mentioned, the fuse driver should/could be available early 
>> enough without issue. It may have to (and probably already does) 
>> hard-code the physical address of the fuses rather than being 
>> configured from DT for this. I think if you read the chip "SKU" value 
>> from fuses, that should indicate which sets of restrictions on 
>> clocks/... are required, and there are many more SKUs than just 
>> "regular" and "automotive", although all the different SKUs may be 
>> bucketed into fewer sets of restriction/configuration data.
>>
>> Briefly looking at drivers/soc/tegra/fuse/speedo-tegra20.c, some (a 
>> very little) of this may already be there
> 
> Ok, the logs I have from one of the automotive systems has:
> 
> [] Tegra Revision: A03 SKU: 176 CPU Process: 3 SoC Process: 0
> 
> So would a test for:
>      sku_info->revision == TEGRA_REVISION_A03 &&
>      sku_info->sku_id == 176
> 
> be ok, or does that need some sort of mask?

I don't know all the automotive SKU numbers, but that seems like it 
might be a good start. I'm not sure if SKU numbers are subordinate to 
chip revisions (probably not) or global and apply to all chip revisions 
(I guess so).

Let's create a helper function, something like 
tegra_is_automotive_chip(), to centralize the check so it's easy to add 
more SKUs/revisions in the future.

> I've not tried updating speedo-tegra30.c as I didn't really understand
> what all the values where (and we didn't use cpufreq-scaling)
> 


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From: swarren@wwwdotorg.org (Stephen Warren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: RFC: tegra2/tegra3 automotive part changes
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:25:26 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <676bc8b6-e3de-8e4b-668a-713edcf663b7@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2e51c020-bca4-1e50-f0ad-cd2ece224cf8@codethink.co.uk>

On 07/20/2018 04:25 AM, Ben Dooks wrote:
> On 13/07/18 17:53, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 07/13/2018 03:41 AM, Ben Dooks wrote:
>>> On 12/07/18 16:56, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> On 07/12/2018 07:36 AM, Ben Dooks wrote:
>>>>> Hello, we are looking at up-streaming some of the work we have
>>>>> done on the tegra2 and tegra3 automotive devices. The automotive
>>>>> grade devices are close the commercial parts so we would like to
>>>>> discuss the core changes before submitting.
>>>>>
>>>>> The changes are mostly with things like the clock setup and a
>>>>> few peripheral quirks (IIRC these are mostly MMC).
>>>>>
>>>>> We are proposing to change the device-tree properties for the root
>>>>> node and any other affected devices from "nvidia,tegraXX" to a new
>>>>> "nvidia,tegraXXa". We would welcome discussion on whether to update
>>>>> all the devices at the start
>>>>>
>>>>> An example of tegra30a.dtsi:
>>>>>
>>>>> #include "tegra30.dtsi"
>>>>>
>>>>> / {
>>>>> ???????? compatible = "nvidia,tegra30a";
>>>>>
>>>>> ???????? clock at 60006000 {
>>>>> ???????????????? compatible = "nvidia,tegra30a-car";
>>>>> ???????? };
>>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> This doesn't sound right. Auto and commercial parts are identical 
>>>> AFAIK; it's just qualification differences. Hence at most you'd add 
>>>> an extra compatible value and not remove the old one. Better might 
>>>> be to detect this at run-time from the fuses. I think we already do 
>>>> some of that already; search for speedo related code in 
>>>> arch/arm/mach-tegra/.
>>>
>>> The nvidia pdk for the automotive didn't set the clocks up in the
>>> same way and we where told that there are certain clock restrictions
>>> for the automotive parts that the commercial ones do not have. Some of
>>> this came from internal discussions with nvidia and NDA'd datasheets
>>> so I don't know how much actual data I can share.
>>
>> I believe this just changes the *selection* of values to use (clock 
>> rates, clock sources), not *how* to program them (set of registers and 
>> fields, programming algorithm), which is what the DT compatible is 
>> mainly about. In other words, it's mainly a performance/configuration 
>> decision not different HW.
>>
>>> To get the 4.4 kernel to be similar enough to work with the tegra30a
>>> we had to do some changes to the clock initialisation. For things
>>> like the clock I am not sure if leaving a tegra30-car in there would
>>> be a good idea, it may boot but probably won't be stable.
>>>
>>> For the fuses, is the fuse driver up early enough to allow the clock
>>> driver could use this? otherwise I think the device-tree change would
>>> be the only way. I'm not sure if I have the information to hand on
>>> how to differentiate the tegra30 and tegra20.
>>>
>>> PS, we'll want to do the same for the tegra20.
>>
>> As Job mentioned, the fuse driver should/could be available early 
>> enough without issue. It may have to (and probably already does) 
>> hard-code the physical address of the fuses rather than being 
>> configured from DT for this. I think if you read the chip "SKU" value 
>> from fuses, that should indicate which sets of restrictions on 
>> clocks/... are required, and there are many more SKUs than just 
>> "regular" and "automotive", although all the different SKUs may be 
>> bucketed into fewer sets of restriction/configuration data.
>>
>> Briefly looking at drivers/soc/tegra/fuse/speedo-tegra20.c, some (a 
>> very little) of this may already be there
> 
> Ok, the logs I have from one of the automotive systems has:
> 
> [] Tegra Revision: A03 SKU: 176 CPU Process: 3 SoC Process: 0
> 
> So would a test for:
>  ????sku_info->revision == TEGRA_REVISION_A03 &&
>  ????sku_info->sku_id == 176
> 
> be ok, or does that need some sort of mask?

I don't know all the automotive SKU numbers, but that seems like it 
might be a good start. I'm not sure if SKU numbers are subordinate to 
chip revisions (probably not) or global and apply to all chip revisions 
(I guess so).

Let's create a helper function, something like 
tegra_is_automotive_chip(), to centralize the check so it's easy to add 
more SKUs/revisions in the future.

> I've not tried updating speedo-tegra30.c as I didn't really understand
> what all the values where (and we didn't use cpufreq-scaling)
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-24 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-12 13:36 RFC: tegra2/tegra3 automotive part changes Ben Dooks
2018-07-12 13:36 ` Ben Dooks
2018-07-12 13:50 ` Mikko Perttunen
2018-07-12 13:50   ` Mikko Perttunen
2018-07-12 15:07   ` Ben Dooks
2018-07-12 15:07     ` Ben Dooks
2018-07-12 15:56 ` Stephen Warren
2018-07-12 15:56   ` Stephen Warren
2018-07-13  9:41   ` Ben Dooks
2018-07-13  9:41     ` Ben Dooks
2018-07-13  9:58     ` Jon Hunter
2018-07-13  9:58       ` Jon Hunter
2018-07-13 12:51       ` Ben Dooks
2018-07-13 12:51         ` Ben Dooks
2018-07-13 16:53     ` Stephen Warren
2018-07-13 16:53       ` Stephen Warren
2018-07-20 10:25       ` Ben Dooks
2018-07-20 10:25         ` Ben Dooks
2018-07-24 19:25         ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2018-07-24 19:25           ` Stephen Warren

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