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From: Bhushan Bharat-R65777 <R65777@freescale.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: "\"“tiejun.chen”\"" <tiejun.chen@windriver.com>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Wood Scott-B07421" <B07421@freescale.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only for kernel managed pages
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:51:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6A3DF150A5B70D4F9B66A25E3F7C888D070D6FE0@039-SN2MPN1-013.039d.mgd.msft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ABD89368-97E2-4CC4-A6A1-FDD78DA074E2@suse.de>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org] On
> Behalf Of Alexander Graf
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:19 PM
> To: Bhushan Bharat-R65777
> Cc: "“tiejun.chen”"; kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org; kvm@vger.kernel.org; Wood Scott-
> B07421
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only for kernel
> managed pages
> 
> 
> On 18.07.2013, at 10:25, Bhushan Bharat-R65777 wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bhushan Bharat-R65777
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:53 PM
> >> To: '"“tiejun.chen”"'
> >> Cc: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org; kvm@vger.kernel.org; agraf@suse.de; Wood
> >> Scott-
> >> B07421
> >> Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only for
> >> kernel managed pages
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: "“tiejun.chen”" [mailto:tiejun.chen@windriver.com]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:52 PM
> >>> To: Bhushan Bharat-R65777
> >>> Cc: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org; kvm@vger.kernel.org; agraf@suse.de;
> >>> Wood
> >>> Scott-
> >>> B07421
> >>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only for
> >>> kernel managed pages
> >>>
> >>> On 07/18/2013 04:08 PM, Bhushan Bharat-R65777 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org
> >>>>> [mailto:kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of "“tiejun.chen”"
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:01 PM
> >>>>> To: Bhushan Bharat-R65777
> >>>>> Cc: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org; kvm@vger.kernel.org; agraf@suse.de;
> >>>>> Wood
> >>>>> Scott-
> >>>>> B07421
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only
> >>>>> for kernel managed pages
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 07/18/2013 03:12 PM, Bhushan Bharat-R65777 wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: "“tiejun.chen”" [mailto:tiejun.chen@windriver.com]
> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:56 AM
> >>>>>>> To: Bhushan Bharat-R65777
> >>>>>>> Cc: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org; kvm@vger.kernel.org; agraf@suse.de;
> >>>>>>> Wood
> >>>>>>> Scott- B07421; Bhushan Bharat-R65777
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only
> >>>>>>> for kernel managed pages
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 07/18/2013 02:04 PM, Bharat Bhushan wrote:
> >>>>>>>> If there is a struct page for the requested mapping then it's
> >>>>>>>> normal DDR and the mapping sets "M" bit (coherent, cacheable)
> >>>>>>>> else this is treated as I/O and we set  "I + G"  (cache
> >>>>>>>> inhibited,
> >>>>>>>> guarded)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This helps setting proper TLB mapping for direct assigned
> >>>>>>>> device
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Bharat Bhushan <bharat.bhushan@freescale.com>
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>    arch/powerpc/kvm/e500_mmu_host.c |   17 ++++++++++++-----
> >>>>>>>>    1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kvm/e500_mmu_host.c
> >>>>>>>> b/arch/powerpc/kvm/e500_mmu_host.c
> >>>>>>>> index 1c6a9d7..089c227 100644
> >>>>>>>> --- a/arch/powerpc/kvm/e500_mmu_host.c
> >>>>>>>> +++ b/arch/powerpc/kvm/e500_mmu_host.c
> >>>>>>>> @@ -64,13 +64,20 @@ static inline u32
> >>>>>>>> e500_shadow_mas3_attrib(u32 mas3, int
> >>>>>>> usermode)
> >>>>>>>>    	return mas3;
> >>>>>>>>    }
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -static inline u32 e500_shadow_mas2_attrib(u32 mas2, int
> >>>>>>>> usermode)
> >>>>>>>> +static inline u32 e500_shadow_mas2_attrib(u32 mas2, pfn_t pfn)
> >>>>>>>>    {
> >>>>>>>> +	u32 mas2_attr;
> >>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>> +	mas2_attr = mas2 & MAS2_ATTRIB_MASK;
> >>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>> +	if (!pfn_valid(pfn)) {
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why not directly use kvm_is_mmio_pfn()?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What I understand from this function (someone can correct me) is
> >>>>>> that it
> >>>>> returns "false" when the page is managed by kernel and is not
> >>>>> marked as RESERVED (for some reason). For us it does not matter
> >>>>> whether the page is reserved or not, if it is kernel visible page
> >>>>> then it
> >> is DDR.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think you are setting I|G by addressing all mmio pages, right?
> >>>>> If so,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      KVM: direct mmio pfn check
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      Userspace may specify memory slots that are backed by mmio
> >>>>> pages rather than
> >>>>>      normal RAM.  In some cases it is not enough to identify these
> >>>>> mmio
> >>> pages
> >>>>>      by pfn_valid().  This patch adds checking the PageReserved as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you know what are those "some cases" and how checking
> >>>> PageReserved helps in
> >>> those cases?
> >>>
> >>> No, myself didn't see these actual cases in qemu,too. But this
> >>> should be chronically persistent as I understand ;-)
> >>
> >> Then I will wait till someone educate me :)
> >
> > The reason is , kvm_is_mmio_pfn() function looks pretty heavy and I do not
> want to call this for all tlbwe operation unless it is necessary.
> 
> It certainly does more than we need and potentially slows down the fast path
> (RAM mapping). The only thing it does on top of "if (pfn_valid())" is to check
> for pages that are declared reserved on the host. This happens in 2 cases:
> 
>   1) Non cache coherent DMA
>   2) Memory hot remove
> 
> The non coherent DMA case would be interesting, as with the mechanism as it is
> in place in Linux today, we could potentially break normal guest operation if we
> don't take it into account. However, it's Kconfig guarded by:
> 
>         depends on 4xx || 8xx || E200 || PPC_MPC512x || GAMECUBE_COMMON
>         default n if PPC_47x
>         default y
> 
> so we never hit it with any core we care about ;).
> 
> Memory hot remove does not exist on e500 FWIW, so we don't have to worry about
> that one either.
> 
> Which means I think it's fine to slim this whole thing down to only check for
> pfn_valid(), as the code does in this patch. It would however be very useful to
> have a comment there that explains why it's safe to do so.

Big thanks for the details :-)

Will add a comment.

-Bharat

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-18  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-18  6:04 [PATCH 1/2] kvm: powerpc: Do not ignore "E" attribute in mas2 Bharat Bhushan
2013-07-18  6:16 ` Bharat Bhushan
2013-07-18  6:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] kvm: powerpc: set cache coherency only for kernel managed pages Bharat Bhushan
2013-07-18  6:16   ` Bharat Bhushan
2013-07-18  6:26   ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  6:26     ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  7:12     ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  7:12       ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  7:31       ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  7:31         ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:08         ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:08           ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:21           ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:21             ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:22             ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:22               ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:25             ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:25               ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-18  8:55               ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:55                 ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  9:44                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18  9:44                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18  9:56                   ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  9:56                     ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:00                     ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:00                       ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:14                       ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:14                         ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 16:11                       ` Scott Wood
2013-07-18 16:11                         ` Scott Wood
2013-07-18  9:48               ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18  9:48                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18  9:51                 ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777 [this message]
2013-07-18 10:08                 ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:08                   ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:12                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:12                     ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:19                     ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:19                       ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18 10:27                       ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-18 10:27                         ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  2:26                         ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-24  2:26                           ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-24  8:25                           ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  8:25                             ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  9:11                             ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-24  9:11                               ` Bhushan Bharat-R65777
2013-07-24  9:21                               ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  9:21                                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  9:35                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24  9:35                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24  9:39                                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24  9:39                                     ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 20:32                                     ` Scott Wood
2013-07-24 20:32                                       ` Scott Wood
2013-07-24 20:32                                       ` Scott Wood
2013-07-25  8:50                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25  8:50                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25  8:50                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 16:07                                         ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-25 16:07                                           ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-25 16:07                                           ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-25 16:14                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 16:14                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 16:14                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-26 22:27                                         ` Scott Wood
2013-07-26 22:27                                           ` Scott Wood
2013-07-26 22:27                                           ` Scott Wood
2013-07-24 10:01                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:01                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:09                               ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 10:09                                 ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 10:19                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:19                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:25                                   ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 10:25                                     ` Alexander Graf
2013-07-24 10:30                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 10:30                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25  1:04                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-07-25  1:04                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-07-18  8:27   ` "“tiejun.chen”"
2013-07-18  8:27     ` "“tiejun.chen”"

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