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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Daniel Baluta <daniel.baluta@gmail.com>,
	andriy.shevchenko@intel.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com, vkoul@kernel.org,
	broonie@kernel.org, sound-open-firmware@alsa-project.org,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Sound-open-firmware] [PATCH v4 02/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Sound Open Firmware KControl support
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 08:35:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a16955e-7095-4dfb-b4ac-9dcd8d4fc995@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hzhqyaf9c.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

On 2/14/19 3:30 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 23:07:22 +0100,
> Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>
>> +int snd_sof_bytes_ext_put(struct snd_kcontrol *kcontrol,
>> +			  const unsigned int __user *binary_data,
>> +			  unsigned int size)
>> +{
>> +	struct soc_bytes_ext *be =
>> +		(struct soc_bytes_ext *)kcontrol->private_value;
>> +	struct snd_sof_control *scontrol = be->dobj.private;
>> +	struct snd_sof_dev *sdev = scontrol->sdev;
>> +	struct sof_ipc_ctrl_data *cdata = scontrol->control_data;
>> +	struct snd_ctl_tlv header;
>> +	const struct snd_ctl_tlv __user *tlvd =
>> +		(const struct snd_ctl_tlv __user *)binary_data;
> ....
> 
> Do we keep supporting TLV-typed ext access in SOF?
> This seems to be disliked nowadays (since it's a sort of abuse of TLV
> API), and we agreed for dropping / reducing it.

I started working on a replacement of the TLV w/ the hw-dep and showed 
it could be introduced fairly easily in the topology with minor changes 
to the kernel interfaces.

https://github.com/plbossart/sound/commits/proto/hwdep
https://github.com/plbossart/alsa-lib/tree/proto/hwdep

However the big open is linking this hw-dep element in DAPM, so that 
it's handled in the same way as existing controls - specifically that 
the state is restored on resume. That part looked really invasive and 
complicated. I was even tempted to consider flipping the approach and 
define a new control that would expose a hw-dep interface to reuse a lot 
of the DAPM integration.

In short, we know the TLV is not the path forward, and as soon as we 
have a replacement we'll switch. For now we have no alternative.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-14 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-13 22:07 [PATCH v4 00/14] ASoC: Sound Open Firmware (SOF) core Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Sound Open Firmware driver core Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14  9:25   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 14:53     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-19 15:38       ` Mark Brown
2019-02-20 14:35         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-20 16:26           ` Mark Brown
2019-02-20 21:32             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 18:47               ` Mark Brown
2019-02-22  0:08                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Sound Open Firmware KControl support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14  9:30   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 14:35     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2019-02-14 15:21       ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Takashi Iwai
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] ASoC: SOF: Add driver debug support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] ASoC: SOF: Add support for IPC IO between DSP and Host Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 11:52   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 14:56     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-20 17:31       ` Mark Brown
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] ASoC: SOF: Add PCM operations support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 11:20   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 15:07     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 20:42       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-18 15:51   ` Daniel Baluta
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] ASoC: SOF: Add support for loading topologies Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] ASoC: SOF: Add DSP firmware logger support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 13:19   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 15:13     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-20 17:44   ` Mark Brown
2019-02-20 20:18     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 12:29       ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-02-21 14:57         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 15:04         ` Mark Brown
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] ASoC: SOF: Add DSP HW abstraction operations Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 13:21   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 15:22     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 13:45   ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-02-14 15:21     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] ASoC: SOF: Add firmware loader support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] ASoC: SOF: Add userspace ABI support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] ASoC: SOF: Add PM support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Nocodec machine driver support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] ASoC: SOF: Add xtensa support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-13 22:07 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] ASoC: SOF: Add utils Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-14 13:33   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-14 13:37     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-02-18 20:03 ` [v4,00/14] ASoC: Sound Open Firmware (SOF) core Xiang Xiao
2019-02-19  9:49   ` [alsa-devel] " Srinivas Kandagatla
2019-02-19  9:49     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2019-02-19 15:09     ` [alsa-devel] " xiang xiao
2019-02-19 15:09       ` xiang xiao
2019-02-19 15:55       ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-19 15:55         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21  4:39         ` [alsa-devel] " Vinod Koul
2019-02-21  4:39           ` Vinod Koul
2019-02-21 10:42           ` [alsa-devel] " Arnaud Pouliquen
2019-02-21 10:42             ` Arnaud Pouliquen
2019-02-21 11:28             ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2019-02-21 11:28               ` Mark Brown
2019-02-21 23:49               ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 23:49                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 15:27           ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-21 15:27             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-22  8:32             ` [alsa-devel] " xiang xiao
2019-02-22  8:32               ` xiang xiao
2019-02-22 11:15               ` [alsa-devel] " Keyon Jie
2019-02-22 11:15                 ` Keyon Jie
2019-02-22 18:21                 ` [alsa-devel] " xiang xiao
2019-02-22 18:21                   ` xiang xiao
2019-02-25  3:05                   ` [Sound-open-firmware] [alsa-devel] [v4, 00/14] " Keyon Jie
2019-02-25  3:05                     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Keyon Jie
2019-02-22 14:48               ` [Sound-open-firmware] [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-22 14:48                 ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-22 18:41                 ` [Sound-open-firmware] [alsa-devel] " xiang xiao
2019-02-22 18:41                   ` [Sound-open-firmware] " xiang xiao
2019-02-22 21:52                   ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-22 21:52                     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-02-23 16:42                     ` [alsa-devel] " xiang xiao
2019-02-23 16:42                       ` xiang xiao
2019-02-25 10:16                 ` [Sound-open-firmware] [alsa-devel] " Srinivas Kandagatla
2019-02-25 10:16                   ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Srinivas Kandagatla

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