Re: Security Working Group meeting - Wednesday August 17

Re: Security Working Group meeting - Wednesday August 17

[Nick Rivers]

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On 8/17/2022 09:57, Brad Bishop wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-08-17 at 11:13 -0500, Joseph Reynolds wrote:
>> On 8/17/22 12:11 AM, Andrew Jeffery wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022, at 12:37, Joseph Reynolds wrote:
>>>> This is a reminder of the OpenBMC Security Working Group meeting
>>>> scheduled for this Wednesday August 17 at 10:00am PDT.
>>> Given the discussion from last meeting, is this on Discord?
>>
>> No.  The meeting access for Aug 17 is the same as before:
>> https://ibm.webex.com/meet/joseph.reynolds1
>>
>> I wanted to give a couple of weeks notice (A) for attendees to firm up
>> any objections to moving
>
> Injecting my opinions in case they are helpful...but probably not 🤣
>
> I likely sound cliché but someone will always be unhappy with every
> decision, including this one. As the WG host, have -you- been convinced
> that improved collalboration between the security working group and the
> developer community is worthwhile, and that moving to Discord will
> improve that? If so - go for it!
>
> People were (and still are) opposed to moving from IRC to Discord, but
> we now have 500 people on our server and levels of collaboration in the
> developer community never before seen in OpenBMC...
>
Thus not really supporting diverse and inclusive workplace thinking.And
encouraging fit "The Organization's Model" with little room for those who
do not fit "The Organization's Model".I agree that utopia is not achievable.

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Re: Security Working Group meeting - Wednesday August 17

[Brad Bishop]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:40:33AM -0700, Nick Rivers wrote:
>> Injecting my opinions in case they are helpful...but probably not 🤣
>>
>> I likely sound cliché but someone will always be unhappy with every
>> decision, including this one. As the WG host, have -you- been convinced
>> that improved collalboration between the security working group and the
>> developer community is worthwhile, and that moving to Discord will
>> improve that? If so - go for it!
>>
>> People were (and still are) opposed to moving from IRC to Discord, but
>> we now have 500 people on our server and levels of collaboration in the
>> developer community never before seen in OpenBMC...
>>
>Thus not really supporting diverse and inclusive workplace thinking.And
>encouraging fit "The Organization's Model" with little room for those who
>do not fit "The Organization's Model".

OK, I can understand why that might not be a good thing.  So what would 
you suggest Joseph do then to improve synergy between the security 
working group and the developer community?

Thanks,
Brad

Re: Security Working Group meeting - Wednesday August 17 - Move call to Discord Voice channel

[Joseph Reynolds]

On 8/17/22 12:47 PM, Brad Bishop wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:40:33AM -0700, Nick Rivers wrote:
>>> Injecting my opinions in case they are helpful...but probably not 🤣
>>>
>>> I likely sound cliché but someone will always be unhappy with every
>>> decision, including this one. As the WG host, have -you- been convinced
>>> that improved collalboration between the security working group and the
>>> developer community is worthwhile, and that moving to Discord will
>>> improve that? If so - go for it!
>>>
>>> People were (and still are) opposed to moving from IRC to Discord, but
>>> we now have 500 people on our server and levels of collaboration in the
>>> developer community never before seen in OpenBMC...
>>>
>> Thus not really supporting diverse and inclusive workplace thinking.And
>> encouraging fit "The Organization's Model" with little room for those 
>> who
>> do not fit "The Organization's Model".
>
> OK, I can understand why that might not be a good thing.  So what 
> would you suggest Joseph do then to improve synergy between the 
> security working group and the developer community?

Thanks for the discussion.  In today's call there were not objections 
and we agreed to move to the Security Working Group call to Discord

Discord > OpenBMC > Voice channels >  Security ~ 
https://discord.com/channels/775381525260664832/1002376534377635860 
<https://discord.com/channels/775381525260664832/1002376534377635860>

effective for the next meeting August 31, 2022.

I'll send an email.


Joseph

>
> Thanks,
> Brad