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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Daniel de Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] add per-domain and per-cpupool generic parameters
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 13:32:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d56ad90-7825-adb7-f4e5-6c3ceb3210f6@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5BA0DF9602000078001?= =?UTF-8?Q?E9448@suse.com>

On 18/09/18 13:20, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 18.09.18 at 13:10, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>> On 18/09/18 12:32, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 18.09.18 at 08:02, <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>>>> Instead of using binary hypervisor interfaces for new parameters of
>>>> domains or cpupools this patch series adds support for generic text
>>>> based parameter parsing.
>>>>
>>>> Parameters are defined via new macros similar to those of boot
>>>> parameters. Parsing of parameter strings is done via the already
>>>> existing boot parameter parsing function which is extended a little
>>>> bit.
>>>>
>>>> Parameter settings can either be specified in configuration files of
>>>> domains or cpupools, or they can be set via new xl sub-commands.
>>>
>>> Without having looked at any of the patches yet (not even their
>>> descriptions) I'm still wondering what the benefit of textual parameters
>>> really is: Just like "binary" ones, they become part of the public
>>> interface, and hence subsequently can't be changed any more or
>>> less than the ones we currently have (in particular, anything valid in
>>> a guest config file will imo need to remain to be valid and meaningful
>>> down the road).
>>
>> So lets look what would be needed for adding something like the
>> per-domain xpti parameter using binary interfaces:
>>
>> 1 an extension of some domctl interface, maybe bumping of the domctl
>>   interface version
>> 2 adding the logic to domctl handling
>> 3 adding libxc support
>> 4 adding libxl support
>> 5 adding a new xl sub-command
>> 6 adding domain config support
>> 7 adding documentation
>>
>> With my approach only 2 (in a modified form, parameter handling instead
>> of domctl, but comparable in the needed effort) and 7 are needed.
>>
>> So once the framework is in place it is _much_ easier to add new
>> features.
> 
> All the above would hold if the individual options were expressed as
> e.g. flags in an extensible bit vector.

Who would translate the new option into a bit vector? This would be the
tools (libxc/libxl/xl), so those need to be modified for each new bit.


Juergen

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2018-09-18 11:32       ` Juergen Gross [this message]
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2018-09-18 13:25         ` [PATCH 00/12] add per-domain and per-cpupool generic parameters George Dunlap
2018-09-19 17:28           ` Wei Liu
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2018-09-18 13:36           ` Juergen Gross
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2018-09-18 13:57             ` George Dunlap
2018-09-26 15:10               ` Dario Faggioli
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2018-09-18 14:57               ` Juergen Gross
2018-09-18 15:21                 ` George Dunlap
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2018-09-27  6:10                 ` Juergen Gross
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     [not found]               ` <20180920160629.jullgb435zi7bcbr@zi?= =?UTF-8?Q?on.uk.xensource.com>
2018-09-21  5:23                 ` Juergen Gross
2018-09-21  8:52                   ` Wei Liu
2018-09-26 17:30                     ` Dario Faggioli
2018-10-03 11:00                       ` Wei Liu
2018-10-03 11:07                         ` Juergen Gross
2018-10-03 11:27                           ` Wei Liu
2018-09-18  6:02 Juergen Gross
2018-09-18  6:02 ` [PATCH 01/12] xen: use macros for filling parameter definition blocks Juergen Gross
2018-09-26 15:32   ` Dario Faggioli
2018-10-04 15:37   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-18  6:02 ` [PATCH 02/12] xen: use a structure to define parsing parameters Juergen Gross
2018-09-26 15:17   ` Dario Faggioli
2018-10-04 15:40   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 03/12] xen: add support for parameter scopes Juergen Gross
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 04/12] xen: add a generic flags field to parameter definitions Juergen Gross
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 05/12] xen: add hypercall interfaces for domain and cpupool parameter setting Juergen Gross
2018-09-18 21:23   ` Daniel De Graaf
2018-09-19  5:14     ` Juergen Gross
2018-09-26 17:06   ` Dario Faggioli
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 06/12] xen: add domain specific parameter support Juergen Gross
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 07/12] " Juergen Gross
2018-09-26 16:58   ` Dario Faggioli
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 08/12] tools/libxc: add per domain/cpupool " Juergen Gross
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 09/12] tools/xl: add support for setting generic per-cpupool parameters Juergen Gross
2018-09-26 17:17   ` Dario Faggioli
2018-09-27  5:14     ` Juergen Gross
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 10/12] tools/xl: add support for setting generic per-domain parameters Juergen Gross
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 11/12] x86: add domain type flags for domain parameters Juergen Gross
2018-09-18  6:03 ` [PATCH 12/12] x86/xpti: add per-domain parameter for controlling xpti Juergen Gross
2018-09-18 10:32 ` [PATCH 00/12] add per-domain and per-cpupool generic parameters Jan Beulich
2018-09-18 11:10   ` Juergen Gross
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2018-09-18 11:18     ` George Dunlap
2018-09-18 11:30       ` Juergen Gross
2018-09-18 11:20     ` Jan Beulich
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2018-09-18 11:02   ` Juergen Gross
2018-09-18 11:19     ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-18 11:20       ` George Dunlap
2018-09-18 11:23         ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-18 11:29           ` George Dunlap
2018-09-18 11:34             ` Juergen Gross
2018-09-18 11:52             ` Jan Beulich
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