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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Zhangfei Gao <zhangfei.gao@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Sergei Shtylyov <sergei.shtylyov@cogentembedded.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zhangfei Gao <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new hip04 ethernet driver
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:54:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7101996.LQrASEuksF@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1395768102.12610.159.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On Tuesday 25 March 2014 10:21:42 Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 18:05 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tuesday 25 March 2014 10:00:30 Florian Fainelli wrote:
> >
> > > Using a timer to ensure completion of TX packets is a trick that
> > > worked in the past, but now that the networking stack got smarter,
> > > this might artificially increase the processing time of packets in the
> > > transmit path, and this will defeat features like TCP small queues
> > > etc.. as could be seen with the mvneta driver [1]. The best way really
> > > is to rely on TX completion interrupts when those exist as they cannot
> > > lie about the hardware status (in theory) and they should provide the
> > > fastest way to complete TX packets.
> > 
> > By as Zhangfei Gao pointed out, this hardware does not have a working
> > TX completion interrupt. Using timers to do this has always just been
> > a workaround for broken hardware IMHO.
> 
> For this kind of drivers, calling skb_orphan() from ndo_start_xmit() is
> mandatory.

Cool, thanks for the information, I was wondering already if there was
a way to deal with hardware like this.

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new hip04 ethernet driver
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:54:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7101996.LQrASEuksF@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1395768102.12610.159.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On Tuesday 25 March 2014 10:21:42 Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 18:05 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tuesday 25 March 2014 10:00:30 Florian Fainelli wrote:
> >
> > > Using a timer to ensure completion of TX packets is a trick that
> > > worked in the past, but now that the networking stack got smarter,
> > > this might artificially increase the processing time of packets in the
> > > transmit path, and this will defeat features like TCP small queues
> > > etc.. as could be seen with the mvneta driver [1]. The best way really
> > > is to rely on TX completion interrupts when those exist as they cannot
> > > lie about the hardware status (in theory) and they should provide the
> > > fastest way to complete TX packets.
> > 
> > By as Zhangfei Gao pointed out, this hardware does not have a working
> > TX completion interrupt. Using timers to do this has always just been
> > a workaround for broken hardware IMHO.
> 
> For this kind of drivers, calling skb_orphan() from ndo_start_xmit() is
> mandatory.

Cool, thanks for the information, I was wondering already if there was
a way to deal with hardware like this.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-25 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-24 14:14 [PATCH v3 0/3] add hisilicon hip04 ethernet driver Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:14 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] Documentation: add Device tree bindings for Hisilicon hip04 ethernet Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:14   ` Zhangfei Gao
     [not found] ` <1395670496-17381-1-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-24 14:14   ` [PATCH 2/3] net: hisilicon: new hip04 MDIO driver Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:14     ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new hip04 ethernet driver Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:14   ` Zhangfei Gao
     [not found]   ` <1395670496-17381-4-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-24 15:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-24 15:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-25  4:06       ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-25  4:06         ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-25  8:12         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-25  8:12           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-25 17:00           ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 17:00             ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 17:05             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-25 17:05               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-25 17:16               ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 17:16                 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-25 17:57                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-25 17:57                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-26  9:55                   ` David Laight
2014-03-26  9:55                     ` David Laight
2014-03-25 17:17               ` David Laight
2014-03-25 17:17                 ` David Laight
2014-03-25 17:21               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-25 17:21                 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-25 17:54                 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-03-25 17:54                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-27 12:53                   ` zhangfei
2014-03-27 12:53                     ` zhangfei
2014-03-24 16:32   ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-24 16:32     ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-24 17:23     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-24 17:23       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-24 17:35       ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-24 17:35         ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-27  6:27     ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-27  6:27       ` Zhangfei Gao
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-04-05  4:35 [PATCH v7 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-05  4:35 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-05  4:35   ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-07 18:53   ` David Miller
2014-04-07 18:53     ` David Miller
2014-04-08  8:07     ` zhangfei
2014-04-08  8:07       ` zhangfei
2014-04-08  8:30       ` David Laight
2014-04-08  8:30         ` David Laight
     [not found]         ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D0F6F1434-VkEWCZq2GCInGFn1LkZF6NBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-08  9:42           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08  9:42             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 14:47           ` zhangfei
2014-04-08 14:47             ` zhangfei
2014-04-18 13:17     ` zhangfei
2014-04-18 13:17       ` zhangfei
2014-04-07 18:56   ` David Miller
2014-04-07 18:56     ` David Miller
2014-04-04 15:16 [PATCH v6 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
     [not found] ` <1396624597-390-1-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-04 15:16   ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-04 15:16     ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-01 13:27 [PATCH v5 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-01 13:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-01 13:27   ` Zhangfei Gao
     [not found]   ` <1396358832-15828-4-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-02  9:21     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-02  9:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-02  9:51       ` zhangfei
2014-04-02  9:51         ` zhangfei
2014-04-02 15:24         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-02 15:24           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-02 10:04       ` David Laight
2014-04-02 10:04         ` David Laight
2014-04-02 15:49         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-02 15:49           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-03  6:24           ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-03  6:24             ` Zhangfei Gao
     [not found]             ` <CAMj5BkgfwE1hHpVeqH9WRitwCB30x3c4w0qw7sXT3PiOV-QcPQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-03  8:35               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-03  8:35                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-03 15:22         ` David Miller
2014-04-03 15:22           ` David Miller
2014-04-03 15:38         ` zhangfei
2014-04-03 15:38           ` zhangfei
2014-04-03 15:27       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-03 15:27         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-03 15:42         ` David Laight
2014-04-03 15:42           ` David Laight
2014-04-03 15:50           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-03 15:50             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-03 17:57         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-03 17:57           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-04  6:52         ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-04-04  6:52           ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-28 15:35 [PATCH v4 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-28 15:36 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-28 15:36   ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21 15:09 [PATCH v2 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21 15:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21 15:09   ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21 15:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-21 15:27     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-22  1:18     ` zhangfei
2014-03-22  1:18       ` zhangfei
2014-03-22  8:08       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-22  8:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-18  8:40 [PATCH 0/3] add hisilicon " Zhangfei Gao
     [not found] ` <1395132017-15928-1-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-18  8:40   ` [PATCH 3/3] net: hisilicon: new " Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-18  8:40     ` Zhangfei Gao
     [not found]     ` <1395132017-15928-4-git-send-email-zhangfei.gao-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-18 10:46       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-18 10:46         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-20  9:51         ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-20  9:51           ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 14:17           ` Rob Herring
2014-03-24 14:17             ` Rob Herring
2014-03-26 14:22             ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-26 14:22               ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-18 11:25     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-18 11:25       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-20 14:00       ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-20 14:00         ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-20 14:31         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-20 14:31           ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]           ` <201403201531.20416.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-21  5:19             ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21  5:19               ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21  7:37               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-21  7:37                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-21  7:56                 ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-21  7:56                   ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24  8:17           ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24  8:17             ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 10:02             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-24 10:02               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-24 13:23               ` Zhangfei Gao
2014-03-24 13:23                 ` Zhangfei Gao

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