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From: Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kraxel@redhat.com" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"cjia@nvidia.com" <cjia@nvidia.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ruan, Shuai" <shuai.ruan@intel.com>,
	"Lv, Zhiyuan" <zhiyuan.lv@intel.com>,
	"bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Add Mediated device support[was: Add vGPU support]
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 10:29:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7195005e-6461-25fb-9ed9-ec5906b93bec@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160528085630.0fb79cc7@ul30vt.home>

On 05/28/2016 10:56 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:43:54 +0000
> "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> My impression was that you don't like hypervisor specific thing in VFIO,
>> which makes it a bit tricky to accomplish those tasks in kernel. If we 
>> can add Xen specific logic directly in VFIO (like vfio-iommu-xen you 
>> mentioned), the whole thing would be easier.
> 
> If vfio is hosted in dom0, then Xen is the platform and we need to
> interact with the hypervisor to manage the iommu.  That said, there are
> aspects of vfio that do not seem to map well to a hypervisor managed
> iommu or a Xen-like hypervisor.  For instance, how does dom0 manage
> iommu groups and what's the distinction of using vfio to manage a
> userspace driver in dom0 versus managing a device for another domain.
> In the case of kvm, vfio has no dependency on kvm, there is some minor
> interaction, but we're not running on kvm and it's not appropriate to
> use vfio as a gateway to interact with a hypervisor that may or may not
> exist.  Thanks,

Hi Alex,

Beyond iommu, there are other aspects vfio need to interact with Xen?
e.g. to pass-through MMIO, one have to call hypercalls to establish EPT
mappings.


--
Thanks,
Jike

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kraxel@redhat.com" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"cjia@nvidia.com" <cjia@nvidia.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ruan, Shuai" <shuai.ruan@intel.com>,
	"Lv, Zhiyuan" <zhiyuan.lv@intel.com>,
	"bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Add Mediated device support[was: Add vGPU support]
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 10:29:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7195005e-6461-25fb-9ed9-ec5906b93bec@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160528085630.0fb79cc7@ul30vt.home>

On 05/28/2016 10:56 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:43:54 +0000
> "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> My impression was that you don't like hypervisor specific thing in VFIO,
>> which makes it a bit tricky to accomplish those tasks in kernel. If we 
>> can add Xen specific logic directly in VFIO (like vfio-iommu-xen you 
>> mentioned), the whole thing would be easier.
> 
> If vfio is hosted in dom0, then Xen is the platform and we need to
> interact with the hypervisor to manage the iommu.  That said, there are
> aspects of vfio that do not seem to map well to a hypervisor managed
> iommu or a Xen-like hypervisor.  For instance, how does dom0 manage
> iommu groups and what's the distinction of using vfio to manage a
> userspace driver in dom0 versus managing a device for another domain.
> In the case of kvm, vfio has no dependency on kvm, there is some minor
> interaction, but we're not running on kvm and it's not appropriate to
> use vfio as a gateway to interact with a hypervisor that may or may not
> exist.  Thanks,

Hi Alex,

Beyond iommu, there are other aspects vfio need to interact with Xen?
e.g. to pass-through MMIO, one have to call hypercalls to establish EPT
mappings.


--
Thanks,
Jike

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-31  2:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-24 19:58 [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Add Mediated device support[was: Add vGPU support] Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-24 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-24 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/3] Mediated device Core driver Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-24 19:58   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-25  7:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-25  7:55     ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-05-25 14:47     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-25 14:47       ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-27  9:00       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-27  9:00         ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-05-25 22:39   ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-25 22:39     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-05-26  9:03     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-26  9:03       ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-26 14:06       ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-26 14:06         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-06-03  8:57   ` Dong Jia
2016-06-03  8:57     ` [Qemu-devel] " Dong Jia
2016-06-03  9:40     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-03  9:40       ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-06-06  2:24       ` Dong Jia
2016-06-06  2:24         ` [Qemu-devel] " Dong Jia
2016-06-06  5:27     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-06-06  5:27       ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-06-06  6:01       ` Dong Jia
2016-06-06  6:01         ` [Qemu-devel] " Dong Jia
2016-06-06  6:27         ` Neo Jia
2016-06-06  6:27           ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-06-06  8:29           ` Dong Jia
2016-06-06  8:29             ` [Qemu-devel] " Dong Jia
2016-06-06 17:44             ` Neo Jia
2016-06-06 17:44               ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-06-06 19:31               ` Alex Williamson
2016-06-06 19:31                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-06-07  3:03                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-07  3:03                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-06-07 22:42                   ` Alex Williamson
2016-06-07 22:42                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-06-08  1:18                     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-08  1:18                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-06-08  1:39                       ` Alex Williamson
2016-06-08  1:39                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-06-08  3:18                         ` Dong Jia
2016-06-08  3:18                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Dong Jia
2016-06-08  3:48                           ` Neo Jia
2016-06-08  3:48                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-06-08  6:13                             ` Dong Jia
2016-06-08  6:13                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Dong Jia
2016-06-08  6:22                               ` Neo Jia
2016-06-08  6:22                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-06-08  4:29                           ` Alex Williamson
2016-06-08  4:29                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-06-15  6:37                             ` Dong Jia
2016-06-15  6:37                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Dong Jia
2016-05-24 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/3] VFIO driver for mediated PCI device Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-24 19:58   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-25  8:15   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-25  8:15     ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-05-25 13:04     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-25 13:04       ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-27 10:03       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-27 10:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-05-27 15:13         ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-27 15:13           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-05-24 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] VFIO Type1 IOMMU: Add support for mediated devices Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-24 19:58   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-06-01  8:40   ` Dong Jia
2016-06-01  8:40     ` [Qemu-devel] " Dong Jia
2016-06-02  7:56     ` Neo Jia
2016-06-02  7:56       ` [Qemu-devel] " Neo Jia
2016-06-03  8:32       ` Dong Jia
2016-06-03  8:32         ` [Qemu-devel] " Dong Jia
2016-06-03  8:37         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-03  8:37           ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-05-25  7:13 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Add Mediated device support[was: Add vGPU support] Tian, Kevin
2016-05-25  7:13   ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-05-25 13:43   ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-25 13:43     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-05-27 11:02     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-27 11:02       ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-05-27 14:54       ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-27 14:54         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-05-27 22:43         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-27 22:43           ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2016-05-28 14:56           ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-28 14:56             ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-05-31  2:29             ` Jike Song [this message]
2016-05-31  2:29               ` Jike Song
2016-05-31 14:29               ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-31 14:29                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-06-02  2:11                 ` Jike Song
2016-06-02  2:11                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jike Song

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