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From: Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	yamada.masahiro@socionext.com, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-all@01.org,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] kconfig: add as-instr macro to scripts/Kconfig.include
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 16:50:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74f9cecb-4efa-718c-b147-f7adf956c7bd@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181107145552.GC2623@brain-police>

On 07/11/18 14:55, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 09:40:05AM +0000, Vladimir Murzin wrote:
>> There are cases where the whole feature, for instance arm64/lse or
>> arm/crypto, can depend on assembler. Current practice is to report
>> buildtime that selected feature is not supported, which can be quite
>> annoying...
> 
> Why is it annoying? You still end up with a working kernel.

.config doesn't really represent if option was built or not, annoying
part is digging build logs (if anyone's saved them at all!) or relevant
parts of dmesg (if option throws anything in there and which not always
part of reports).

> 
>> It'd nicer if we can check assembler first and opt-in feature
>> visibility in Kconfig.
>>
>> Cc: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
>> Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>
>> ---
>>  scripts/Kconfig.include | 4 ++++
>>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> 
> One issue I have with doing the check like this is that if somebody sends
> you a .config with e.g. ARM64_LSE_ATOMICS=y and you try to build a kernel
> using that .config and an old toolchain, the option is silently dropped.

I see... at least we have some tools like ./scripts/diffconfig

> 
> I think the diagnostic is actually useful in this case.

Fully agree on diagnostic side, any suggestions how it can be improved?

Cheers
Vladimir

> 
> Will
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: vladimir.murzin@arm.com (Vladimir Murzin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 1/4] kconfig: add as-instr macro to scripts/Kconfig.include
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 16:50:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74f9cecb-4efa-718c-b147-f7adf956c7bd@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181107145552.GC2623@brain-police>

On 07/11/18 14:55, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 09:40:05AM +0000, Vladimir Murzin wrote:
>> There are cases where the whole feature, for instance arm64/lse or
>> arm/crypto, can depend on assembler. Current practice is to report
>> buildtime that selected feature is not supported, which can be quite
>> annoying...
> 
> Why is it annoying? You still end up with a working kernel.

.config doesn't really represent if option was built or not, annoying
part is digging build logs (if anyone's saved them at all!) or relevant
parts of dmesg (if option throws anything in there and which not always
part of reports).

> 
>> It'd nicer if we can check assembler first and opt-in feature
>> visibility in Kconfig.
>>
>> Cc: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
>> Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>
>> ---
>>  scripts/Kconfig.include | 4 ++++
>>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> 
> One issue I have with doing the check like this is that if somebody sends
> you a .config with e.g. ARM64_LSE_ATOMICS=y and you try to build a kernel
> using that .config and an old toolchain, the option is silently dropped.

I see... at least we have some tools like ./scripts/diffconfig

> 
> I think the diagnostic is actually useful in this case.

Fully agree on diagnostic side, any suggestions how it can be improved?

Cheers
Vladimir

> 
> Will
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-08  2:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-07  9:40 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Minor improvements over handling dependency on GAS Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07  9:40 ` Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] kconfig: add as-instr macro to scripts/Kconfig.include Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07  9:40   ` Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07 14:55   ` Will Deacon
2018-11-07 14:55     ` Will Deacon
2018-11-07 16:50     ` Vladimir Murzin [this message]
2018-11-07 16:50       ` Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] arm64: lse: expose dependency on gas via Kconfig Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07  9:40   ` Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] arm64: turn "broken gas inst" into real config option Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07  9:40   ` Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] ARM: crypto: expose dependency on gas via Kconfig Vladimir Murzin
2018-11-07  9:40   ` Vladimir Murzin

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