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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Wajih Ul Hassan <wajih.lums@gmail.com>
Cc: Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-audit@redhat.com" <linux-audit@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Extracting written string from the write syscall
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:35:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75804ea0-d666-23df-8e03-882b86db4c07@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sRboPmzmdBs2=70f-d3+EuiPaMJQXBsU=no7aT=Y8j7hyAA@mail.gmail.com>


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On 4/26/2018 7:37 PM, Wajih Ul Hassan wrote:
> Thanks for your replies. However, I am now thinking of another solution.
> Let's say I can capture write() in the userspace by either instrumenting the LibC or LD_PRELOAD wrapper and store the string buffer passed to write().
> Can I call/generate *some other non-instrusive* syscall which can take that string buffer that I stored earlier and that syscall with the buffer will be visible in the audit.log? I am not worried about performance hit right now.

I'm not 100% sure, but you might be able to do this with LandLock.

>
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 7:46 PM Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com <mailto:casey@schaufler-ca.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 4/26/2018 5:08 PM, Sargun Dhillon wrote:
>     > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com <mailto:casey@schaufler-ca.com>> wrote:
>     >> On 4/26/2018 3:57 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
>     >>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:34:57 +0000
>     >>> Wajih Ul Hassan <wajih.lums@gmail.com <mailto:wajih.lums@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>> Hi all,
>     >>>>  .....
>     >> You could write a Linux Security Module (LSM) to monitor the
>     >> content of writes. The performance impact would be rather
>     >> amazing.
>     >>
>     > I would recommend using BPF + kprobes + perf_event buffers for this
>     > purpose. There are enough places you can probe to grab these strings
>     > in the kernel, and if you do your filtering in BPF, you can then push
>     > it into kernel space based on filtering. Although, AFAIK, the BPF JITs
>     > don't do vectorization of instructions, but it's still not too bad. If
>     > you put your kprobe on the syscall itself, and probe the userspace
>     > addr, remember you're going to be open to a time-of-use, time-of-check
>     > style attack.
>
>     That looks like a whole lot of mechanism to perform a simple task.
>
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-27 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-26 20:34 Extracting written string from the write syscall Wajih Ul Hassan
2018-04-26 22:57 ` Steve Grubb
2018-04-26 23:40   ` Casey Schaufler
2018-04-26 23:40     ` Casey Schaufler
2018-04-27  0:08     ` Sargun Dhillon
2018-04-27  0:08       ` Sargun Dhillon
2018-04-27  0:46       ` Casey Schaufler
2018-04-27  0:46         ` Casey Schaufler
2018-04-27  2:37         ` Wajih Ul Hassan
2018-04-27 15:35           ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2018-04-27 18:21           ` Richard Guy Briggs
2018-04-27 18:21             ` Richard Guy Briggs

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