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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	xuyandong <xuyandong2@huawei.com>
Cc: "Huangweidong \(C\)" <weidong.huang@huawei.com>,
	Zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"wangxin \(U\)" <wangxinxin.wang@huawei.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	lidonglin <lidonglin@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: An emulation failure occurs, if I hotplug vcpus immediately after the VM start
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:37:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77604174-3c15-a8d3-3ea3-53a1759cd885@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50481bea-bb5b-dd71-b712-6418c3bb29ac@redhat.com>

On 06.06.2018 15:57, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 06/06/2018 15:28, Gonglei (Arei) wrote:
>> gonglei********: mem.slot: 3, mem.guest_phys_addr=0xc0000,
>> mem.userspace_addr=0x7fc343ec0000, mem.flags=0, memory_size=0x0 
>> gonglei********: mem.slot: 3, mem.guest_phys_addr=0xc0000,
>> mem.userspace_addr=0x7fc343ec0000, mem.flags=0, memory_size=0x9000
>>
>> When the memory region is cleared, the KVM will tell the slot to be 
>> invalid (which it is set to KVM_MEMSLOT_INVALID).
>>
>> If SeaBIOS accesses this memory and cause page fault, it will find an
>> invalid value according to gfn (by __gfn_to_pfn_memslot), and finally
>> it will return an invalid value, and finally it will return a
>> failure.
>>
>> So, My questions are:
>>
>> 1) Why don't we hold kvm->slots_lock during page fault processing?
> 
> Because it's protected by SRCU.  We don't need kvm->slots_lock on the
> read side.
> 
>> 2) How do we assure that vcpus will not access the corresponding 
>> region when deleting an memory slot?
> 
> We don't.  It's generally a guest bug if they do, but the problem here
> is that QEMU is splitting a memory region in two parts and that is not
> atomic.
> 
> One fix could be to add a KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGIONS ioctl that
> replaces the entire memory map atomically.
> 
> Paolo
> 

Hi Paolo,

I have a related requirement, which would be to atomically grow a
memory regions. So instead of region_del(old)+region_add(new), I would
have to do it in one shot (atomically).

AFAICS an atomic replace of the memory map would work for this, too.
However I am not sure how we want to handle all kinds of tracking data
that is connected to e.g. x86 memory slots (e.g. rmap, dirty bitmap ...).

And for a generic KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGIONS, we would have to handle
this somehow.

-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	xuyandong <xuyandong2@huawei.com>
Cc: Zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	"wangxin (U)" <wangxinxin.wang@huawei.com>,
	lidonglin <lidonglin@huawei.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Huangweidong (C)" <weidong.huang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] An emulation failure occurs, if I hotplug vcpus immediately after the VM start
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 12:37:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77604174-3c15-a8d3-3ea3-53a1759cd885@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50481bea-bb5b-dd71-b712-6418c3bb29ac@redhat.com>

On 06.06.2018 15:57, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 06/06/2018 15:28, Gonglei (Arei) wrote:
>> gonglei********: mem.slot: 3, mem.guest_phys_addr=0xc0000,
>> mem.userspace_addr=0x7fc343ec0000, mem.flags=0, memory_size=0x0 
>> gonglei********: mem.slot: 3, mem.guest_phys_addr=0xc0000,
>> mem.userspace_addr=0x7fc343ec0000, mem.flags=0, memory_size=0x9000
>>
>> When the memory region is cleared, the KVM will tell the slot to be 
>> invalid (which it is set to KVM_MEMSLOT_INVALID).
>>
>> If SeaBIOS accesses this memory and cause page fault, it will find an
>> invalid value according to gfn (by __gfn_to_pfn_memslot), and finally
>> it will return an invalid value, and finally it will return a
>> failure.
>>
>> So, My questions are:
>>
>> 1) Why don't we hold kvm->slots_lock during page fault processing?
> 
> Because it's protected by SRCU.  We don't need kvm->slots_lock on the
> read side.
> 
>> 2) How do we assure that vcpus will not access the corresponding 
>> region when deleting an memory slot?
> 
> We don't.  It's generally a guest bug if they do, but the problem here
> is that QEMU is splitting a memory region in two parts and that is not
> atomic.
> 
> One fix could be to add a KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGIONS ioctl that
> replaces the entire memory map atomically.
> 
> Paolo
> 

Hi Paolo,

I have a related requirement, which would be to atomically grow a
memory regions. So instead of region_del(old)+region_add(new), I would
have to do it in one shot (atomically).

AFAICS an atomic replace of the memory map would work for this, too.
However I am not sure how we want to handle all kinds of tracking data
that is connected to e.g. x86 memory slots (e.g. rmap, dirty bitmap ...).

And for a generic KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGIONS, we would have to handle
this somehow.

-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-07 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-01  8:17 An emulation failure occurs, if I hotplug vcpus immediately after the VM start xuyandong
2018-06-01  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " xuyandong
2018-06-01 10:23 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-01 10:23   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-06-06 13:28   ` Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-06 13:28     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-06 13:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-06 13:57       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-06 14:18       ` xuyandong
2018-06-06 14:18         ` [Qemu-devel] " xuyandong
2018-06-06 14:23         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-06 14:23           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-07 10:37       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2018-06-07 10:37         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 11:02         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-07 11:02           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-07 11:36           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 11:36             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 12:36             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-07 12:36               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-07 12:55               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 12:55                 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 16:03                 ` 浙大邮箱
2018-06-07 16:03                   ` [Qemu-devel] " 浙大邮箱
2018-06-11 10:44                   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-11 10:44                     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2018-06-11 12:25                     ` Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-11 12:25                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-11 12:36                       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-11 12:36                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2018-06-11 13:25                         ` Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-11 13:25                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-07 10:39       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 10:39         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 11:13         ` Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-07 11:13           ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2018-06-07 11:43           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 11:43             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand

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