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From: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	gustavo@embeddedor.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Ian Abbott <abbotti@mev.co.uk>, "Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou@konsulko.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Remove accidental VLA usage
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 20:57:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78428dec-270e-5d74-0160-83feb5c0ff02@rasmusvillemoes.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180308150236.5tysfbm3xdouii5n@treble>

On 2018-03-08 16:02, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 07:30:44PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>> This series adds SIMPLE_MAX() to be used in places where a stack array
>> is actually fixed, but the compiler still warns about VLA usage due to
>> confusion caused by the safety checks in the max() macro.
>>
>> I'm sending these via -mm since that's where I've introduced SIMPLE_MAX(),
>> and they should all have no operational differences.
> 
> What if we instead simplify the max() macro's type checking so that GCC
> can more easily fold the array size constants?  The below patch seems to
> work:
> 

> +extern long __error_incompatible_types_in_min_macro;
> +extern long __error_incompatible_types_in_max_macro;
> +
> +#define __min(t1, t2, x, y)						\
> +	__builtin_choose_expr(__builtin_types_compatible_p(t1, t2),	\
> +			      (t1)(x) < (t2)(y) ? (t1)(x) : (t2)(y),	\
> +			      (t1)__error_incompatible_types_in_min_macro)
>  
>  /**
>   * min - return minimum of two values of the same or compatible types
>   * @x: first value
>   * @y: second value
>   */
> -#define min(x, y)					\
> -	__min(typeof(x), typeof(y),			\
> -	      __UNIQUE_ID(min1_), __UNIQUE_ID(min2_),	\
> -	      x, y)
> +#define min(x, y) __min(typeof(x), typeof(y), x, y)			\
>  

But this introduces the the-chosen-one-of-x-and-y-gets-evaluated-twice
problem. Maybe we don't care? But until we get a
__builtin_assert_this_has_no_side_effects() I think that's a little
dangerous.

Rasmus

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From: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	gustavo@embeddedor.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Ian Abbott <abbotti@mev.co.uk>, "Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Remove accidental VLA usage
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 20:57:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78428dec-270e-5d74-0160-83feb5c0ff02@rasmusvillemoes.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180308150236.5tysfbm3xdouii5n@treble>

On 2018-03-08 16:02, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 07:30:44PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>> This series adds SIMPLE_MAX() to be used in places where a stack array
>> is actually fixed, but the compiler still warns about VLA usage due to
>> confusion caused by the safety checks in the max() macro.
>>
>> I'm sending these via -mm since that's where I've introduced SIMPLE_MAX(),
>> and they should all have no operational differences.
> 
> What if we instead simplify the max() macro's type checking so that GCC
> can more easily fold the array size constants?  The below patch seems to
> work:
> 

> +extern long __error_incompatible_types_in_min_macro;
> +extern long __error_incompatible_types_in_max_macro;
> +
> +#define __min(t1, t2, x, y)						\
> +	__builtin_choose_expr(__builtin_types_compatible_p(t1, t2),	\
> +			      (t1)(x) < (t2)(y) ? (t1)(x) : (t2)(y),	\
> +			      (t1)__error_incompatible_types_in_min_macro)
>  
>  /**
>   * min - return minimum of two values of the same or compatible types
>   * @x: first value
>   * @y: second value
>   */
> -#define min(x, y)					\
> -	__min(typeof(x), typeof(y),			\
> -	      __UNIQUE_ID(min1_), __UNIQUE_ID(min2_),	\
> -	      x, y)
> +#define min(x, y) __min(typeof(x), typeof(y), x, y)			\
>  

But this introduces the the-chosen-one-of-x-and-y-gets-evaluated-twice
problem. Maybe we don't care? But until we get a
__builtin_assert_this_has_no_side_effects() I think that's a little
dangerous.

Rasmus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-08 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-08  3:30 [PATCH 0/3] Remove accidental VLA usage Kees Cook
2018-03-08  3:30 ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08  3:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] vsprintf: " Kees Cook
2018-03-08  3:30   ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08  8:25   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-03-08  8:25     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-03-08 11:21     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-03-08 11:21       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-03-08  3:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] net: Remove accidental VLAs from proc buffers Kees Cook
2018-03-08  3:30   ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08  3:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] btrfs: tree-checker: Avoid accidental stack VLA Kees Cook
2018-03-08  3:30   ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08 11:33   ` David Sterba
2018-03-08 11:33     ` David Sterba
2018-03-08 15:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] Remove accidental VLA usage Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-08 15:02   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-08 18:02   ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08 18:02     ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08 18:11     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-08 18:11       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-08 18:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-08 18:06     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-08 19:57   ` Rasmus Villemoes [this message]
2018-03-08 19:57     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-03-08 20:39     ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08 20:39       ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08 22:12       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-03-08 22:12         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-03-08 23:33         ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08 23:33           ` Kees Cook
2018-03-08 20:49   ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-08 20:49     ` Andrew Morton

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