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From: BALATON Zoltan <balaton@eik.bme.hu>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: ensuring a machine's buses have unique names
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 11:58:24 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79a46e17-ddae-eab8-9ff6-80c3a64d0cb@eik.bme.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y27przt6.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> BALATON Zoltan <balaton@eik.bme.hu> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 21 Sep 2021, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Sept 2021 at 05:28, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
>>>>> I'm not sure how best to sort this tangle out. We could:
>>>>>  * make controller devices pass in NULL as bus name; this
>>>>>    means that some bus names will change, which is an annoying
>>>>>    breakage but for these minor bus types we can probably
>>>>>    get away with it. This brings these buses into line with
>>>>>    how we've been handling uniqueness for ide and scsi.
>>>>
>>>> To gauge the breakage, we need a list of the affected bus names.
>>>
>>> Looking through, there are a few single-use or special
>>> purpose buses I'm going to ignore for now (eg vmbus, or
>>> the s390 ones). The four big bus types where controllers
>>> often specify a bus name and override the 'autogenerate
>>> unique name' handling are pci, ssi, sd, and i2c. (pci mostly
>>> gets away with it I expect by machines only having one pci
>>> bus.) Of those, I've gone through i2c. These are all the
>>> places where we create a specifically-named i2c bus (via
>>> i2c_init_bus()), together with the affected boards:
>>>
>>>   hw/arm/pxa2xx.c
>>>    - the PXA SoC code creates both the intended-for-use
>>>      i2c buses (which get auto-names) and also several i2c
>>>      buses intended for internal board-code use only which
>>>      are all given the same name "dummy".
>>>      Boards: connex, verdex, tosa, mainstone, akita, spitz,
>>>      borzoi, terrier, z2
>>>   hw/arm/stellaris.c
>>>    - The i2c controller names its bus "i2c". There is only one i2c
>>>      controller on these boards, so no name conflicts.
>>>      Boards: lm3s811evb, lm3s6965evb
>>>   hw/display/ati.c
>>>    - The ATI VGA device has an on-board i2c controller which it
>>>      connects the DDC that holds the EDID information. The bus is
>>>      always named "ati-vga.ddc", so if you have multiple of this
>>>      PCI device in the system the buses have the same names.
>>>   hw/display/sm501.c
>>>    - Same as ATI, but the bus name is "sm501.i2c"
>>>   hw/i2c/aspeed_i2c.c
>>>    - This I2C controller has either 14 or 16 (!) different i2c
>>>      buses, and it assigns them names "aspeed.i2c.N" for N = 0,1,2,...
>>>      The board code mostly seems to use these to wire up various
>>>      on-board i2c devices.
>>>      Boards: palmetto-bmc, supermicrox11-bmc, ast2500-evb, romulus-bmc,
>>>      swift-bmc, sonorapass-bmc, witherspoon-bmc, ast2600-evb,
>>>      tacoma-bmc, g220a-bmc, quanta-q71l-bmc, rainier-bmc
>>>   hw/i2c/bitbang_i2c.c
>>>    - the "GPIO to I2C bridge" device always names its bus "i2c".
>>>      Used only on musicpal, which only creates one of these buses.
>>>      Boards: musicpal
>>>   hw/i2c/exynos4210_i2c.c
>>>    - This i2c controller always names its bus "i2c". There are 9
>>>      of these controllers on the board, so they all have clashing
>>>      names.
>>>      Boards: nuri, smdkc210
>>>   hw/i2c/i2c_mux_pca954x.c
>>>    - This is an i2c multiplexer. All the child buses are named
>>>      "i2c-bus". The multiplexer is used by the aspeed and npcm7xx
>>>      boards. (There's a programmable way to get at individual
>>>      downstream i2c buses despite the name clash; none of the boards
>>>      using this multiplexer actually connect any devices downstream of
>>>      it yet.)
>>>      Boards: palmetto-bmc, supermicrox11-bmc, ast2500-evb, romulus-bmc,
>>>      swift-bmc, sonorapass-bmc, witherspoon-bmc, ast2600-evb,
>>>      tacoma-bmc, g220a-bmc, quanta-q71l-bmc, rainier-bmc,
>>>      npcm750-evb, quanta-gsj, quanta-gbs-bmc, kudo-bmc
>>>   hw/i2c/mpc_i2c.c
>>>    - This controller always names its bus "i2c". There is only one
>>>      of these controllers in the machine.
>>>      Boards: ppce500, mpc8544ds
>>>   hw/i2c/npcm7xx_smbus.c
>>>    - This controller always names its bus "i2c-bus". There are multiple
>>>      controllers on the boards. The name also clashes with the one used
>>>      by the pca954x muxes on these boards (see above).
>>>      Boards: npcm750-evb, quanta-gsj, quanta-gbs-bmc, kudo-bmc
>>>   hw/i2c/pm_smbus.c
>>>    - This is the PC SMBUS implementation (it is not a QOM device...)
>>>      The bus is always called "i2c".
>>>      Boards: haven't worked through; at least all the x86 PC-like
>>>      boards, I guess
>>>   hw/i2c/ppc4xx_i2c.c
>>>    - This controller always names its bus "i2c". The taihu and
>>>      ref405ep have only one controller, but sam460ex has two which
>>>      will have non-unique names.
>>>      Boards: taihu, ref405ep, sam460ex
>>>   hw/i2c/versatile_i2c.c
>>>    - This controller always names its bus "i2c". The MPS boards all
>>>      have multiples of this controller with clashing names; the others
>>>      have only one controller.
>>>      Boards: mps2-an385, mps2-an386, mps2-an500, mps2-an511,
>>>      mps2-an505, mps2-an521, mps3-an524, mps3-an547,
>>>      realview-eb, realview-eb-mpcore, realview-pb-a8, realview-pbx-a9,
>>>      versatileab, versatilepb, vexpress-a9, vexpress-a15
>>>
>>> In a lot of these cases I suspect the i2c controllers are
>>> provided either to allow connection of various internal-to-the-board
>>> devices, or simply so that guest OS bootup code that initializes
>>> the i2c controller doesn't fall over. However since there's
>>> nothing stopping users from creating i2c devices themselves
>>> on the commandline, some people might be doing that.
>>>
>>> In some of these cases (eg the i2c bus on the ATI VGA driver)
>>> I suspect the desired behaviour is "unique bus name based on
>>> a standard template, eg 'ati-vga.ddc.0/1/...'. It sounds like
>>> we can't do that, though. (Also they probably don't want to
>>> permit users to command-line plug i2c devices into it...)
>>
>> To me it looks like device code can't really set a globally unique
>> name on creating the bus without getting some help from upper
>> levels. So maybe naming busses should be done by qdev (or whatever is
>> handling this) instead of passing the name as an argument to
>> qbus_create or only use that name as a unique component within the
>> device and append it to a unique name for the device.
>
> Have you read the whole thread?  qdev does come up with a name when

No I haven't. This just got my attention because I'm responsible for 
adding ati-vga.ddc and sm501.i2c and some ppc440 stuff so I was wondering 
what could I do better bur otherwise I did not check the whole thread so 
just ignore what I said if it's not useful in this context.

Regards,
BALATON Zoltan

> passed a null pointer.  The problem is that we often don't.  Another
> problem is that qdev can come up with non-unique names unless the user
> is careful with device IDs (the values of -device / device_add parameter
> id).
>
>>                                                       Thus we would
>> get names like sys.pci-0.ati-vga-0.ddc or so but not sure we want that
>> as it's hard to use on command line. Alternatively we can accept non
>> unique names but use another unique property such as device id to
>> identify devices which could be generated as an integer incremented
>> after every device add or some hash which would result in shorter
>> unique ids. Such id is already used by -drive and -net options where
>> used supplies a unique id and then can use that to reference the
>> created object by that id in other options. This could be extended to
>> devices and buses if it had a unique id, then it's not a problem to
>> have non-unique names.
>>
>> Regards,
>> BALATON Zoltan
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-22  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-12 11:05 ensuring a machine's buses have unique names Peter Maydell
2021-08-26 13:00 ` Peter Maydell
2021-08-26 14:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-14 15:25   ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-15  4:28     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-21 13:20       ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-21 15:48         ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-09-22  4:37           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-22  9:58             ` BALATON Zoltan [this message]
2021-09-22 13:07               ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-22  7:02         ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-22  8:14           ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-22  4:46     ` Markus Armbruster

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