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From: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Nikita Leshenko <nikita.leshchenko@oracle.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GETBIOSUUID
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 16:56:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81a85aa1-2ae7-bbe0-3b66-754281d6fa86@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200310103555-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>


On 10/03/2020 16:39, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 04:24:45PM +0200, Liran Alon wrote:
>
>> Re-thinking about this...
>>
>> QEMU VMPort interface was quite broken already (See first patch in series
>> "hw/i386/vmport: Propagate IOPort read to vCPU EAX register").
>> The introduction of that fix already changes the result of all existing
>> commands from guest perspective which relied on return-value from
>> vmport_ioport_read().
>> E.g. CMD_GETVERSION and CMD_GETRAMSIZE.
>>
>> In theory, we should have also made that bug-fix be tied to machine-type. To
>> similarly avoid the issue of migrating a VM from a working VMPort command
>> implementation to a non-working one.
>> i.e. In case of migrating from new QEMU to old QEMU. Do we wish to create a
>> property-flag for that fix as-well?
> Yes, I meants that too. Just include everything in the same property.
It ugly the code with a lot of "if"s for maintaining compatibility for 
guests that somehow relies on interface being broken and unusable.
Can do this but am wondering if it's worth it.
>
>> Or can we just drop all the machine-type
>> flags alltogether (Including the suggested "commands-v2")
>> and declare this the first actually working VMPort implementation?
>>
>> -Liran
> It's hard to be sure no one used this

Well... Both implemented commands (CMD_GETVERSION and CMD_GETRRAMSIZE) 
fails to return their proper value.
CMD_GETVERSION will always return VMPORT_MAGIC that happened to be in 
EAX previously (i.e. return 0x564D5868 instead of 6).
CMD_GETRAMSIZE will always return VMPORT_MAGIC that happened to be in 
EAX previously (i.e. return 0x564D5868 instead of VM RAM size).

If guest somehow relied on this, it is already quite broken...
My belief is that all upstream QEMU users today relies on VMPort only 
for the sake of a functioning VMMouse which is indeed not broken because 
vmmouse_set_data() explicitly override EAX.

> , and the overhead isn't big.  But
> that would be a maintainer call. In any case you need to call this out
> explicitly in the commit log, and I guess block migration for old
> machine types.
>
Blocking migration for old machine-types is a "no go" in my opinion as 
vmport is enabled by default. It will cause too many VMs to need be able 
to backwards migrate.

So it's either doing nothing (as patch-series is now) or adding a flag 
that adds a bunch of ugly "ifs" and is tied to a machine-type.

-Liran




  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-10 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-09 23:53 [PATCH 00/14]: hw/i386/vmport: Bug fixes and improvements Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:53 ` [PATCH 01/14] hw/i386/vmport: Propagate IOPort read to vCPU EAX register Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:53 ` [PATCH 02/14] hw/i386/vmport: Set EAX to -1 on failed and unsupported commands Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 03/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add device properties Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 04/14] hw/i386/vmport: Introduce vmx-version property Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:05     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:28         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:44           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:53             ` Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 05/14] hw/i386/vmport: Report VMX type in CMD_GETVERSION Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:18     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:40         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:47           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:25     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 12:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:43         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 12:53           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 13:35             ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 14:08               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 14:46                 ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 15:10                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 16:39                     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 17:36                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 17:58                         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 21:16                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 21:34                     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 21:49                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 21:59                         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 22:04                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 06/14] hw/i386/vmport: Define enum for all commands Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:16     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:37         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:54             ` Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 07/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GETBIOSUUID Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:44     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 12:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:37         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 13:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10  9:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:13     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 11:22       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 11:35         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 14:24         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 14:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 14:56             ` Liran Alon [this message]
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 08/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GETTIME Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 09/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GETTIMEFULL Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 10/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GET_VCPU_INFO Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 11/14] hw/i386/vmport: Allow x2apic without IR Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 12/14] i386/cpu: Store LAPIC bus frequency in CPU structure Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 10:53     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10 12:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 12:29         ` Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 13/14] hw/i386/vmport: Add support for CMD_GETHZ Liran Alon
2020-03-09 23:54 ` [PATCH 14/14] hw/i386/vmport: Assert vmport initialized before registering commands Liran Alon
2020-03-10  9:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 10:57     ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10  0:13 ` [PATCH 00/14]: hw/i386/vmport: Bug fixes and improvements no-reply
2020-03-10  0:16   ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10  0:53 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  0:54 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  0:57   ` Liran Alon
2020-03-10  1:10 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  1:49 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  1:50 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  2:04 ` no-reply
2020-03-10  2:22 ` no-reply
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