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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jacob jun Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Diana Craciun <diana.craciun@oss.nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/11] driver core: Set DMA ownership during driver bind/unbind
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 15:37:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8499f0ab-9701-2ca2-ac7a-842c36c54f8a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211115132442.GA2379906@nvidia.com>

On 2021-11-15 13:24, Jason Gunthorpe via iommu wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 05:19:02AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:05:43AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>>> @@ -566,6 +567,12 @@ static int really_probe(struct device *dev, struct device_driver *drv)
>>>   		goto done;
>>>   	}
>>>   
>>> +	if (!drv->suppress_auto_claim_dma_owner) {
>>> +		ret = iommu_device_set_dma_owner(dev, DMA_OWNER_KERNEL, NULL);
>>> +		if (ret)
>>> +			return ret;
>>> +	}
>>
>> I'd expect this to go into iommu_setup_dma_ops (and its arm and s390
>> equivalents), as that is what claims an IOMMU for in-kernel usage
> 
> If iommu_device_set_dma_owner(dev_a) fails changes dynamically
> depending on what iommu_device_set_dma_owner(dev_b, DMA_OWNER_USER)
> have been done.
> 
> The whole point here is that doing a
>   iommu_device_set_dma_owner(dev_b, DMA_OWNER_USER)
> needs to revoke kernel usage from a whole bunch of other devices in
> the same group.
> 
> revoking kernel usage means it needs to ensure that no driver is bound
> and prevent future drivers from being bound.
> 
> iommu_setup_dma_ops() is something done once early on in boot, not at
> every driver probe, so I don't see how it can help??

Note that there's some annoying inconsistency across architectures, and 
with the {acpi,of}_dma_configure() code in general. I guess Christoph 
might be thinking of the case where iommu_setup_dma_ops() *does* end up 
being called off the back of the bus->dma_configure() hook a few lines 
below the context above.

iommu_setup_dma_ops() itself is indeed not the appropriate place for 
this (the fact that it can be called as late as driver probe is subtly 
broken and still on my list to fix...) but
bus->dma_configure() definitely is. Only a handful of buses care about 
IOMMUs, and possibly even fewer of them support VFIO, so I'm in full 
agreement with Greg and Christoph that this absolutely warrants being 
scoped per-bus. I mean, we literally already have infrastructure to 
prevent drivers binding if the IOMMU/DMA configuration is broken or not 
ready yet; why would we want a totally different mechanism to prevent 
driver binding when the only difference is that that configuration *is* 
ready and working to the point that someone's already claimed it for 
other purposes?

Robin.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jacob jun Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Diana Craciun <diana.craciun@oss.nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/11] driver core: Set DMA ownership during driver bind/unbind
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 15:37:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8499f0ab-9701-2ca2-ac7a-842c36c54f8a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211115132442.GA2379906@nvidia.com>

On 2021-11-15 13:24, Jason Gunthorpe via iommu wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 05:19:02AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:05:43AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>>> @@ -566,6 +567,12 @@ static int really_probe(struct device *dev, struct device_driver *drv)
>>>   		goto done;
>>>   	}
>>>   
>>> +	if (!drv->suppress_auto_claim_dma_owner) {
>>> +		ret = iommu_device_set_dma_owner(dev, DMA_OWNER_KERNEL, NULL);
>>> +		if (ret)
>>> +			return ret;
>>> +	}
>>
>> I'd expect this to go into iommu_setup_dma_ops (and its arm and s390
>> equivalents), as that is what claims an IOMMU for in-kernel usage
> 
> If iommu_device_set_dma_owner(dev_a) fails changes dynamically
> depending on what iommu_device_set_dma_owner(dev_b, DMA_OWNER_USER)
> have been done.
> 
> The whole point here is that doing a
>   iommu_device_set_dma_owner(dev_b, DMA_OWNER_USER)
> needs to revoke kernel usage from a whole bunch of other devices in
> the same group.
> 
> revoking kernel usage means it needs to ensure that no driver is bound
> and prevent future drivers from being bound.
> 
> iommu_setup_dma_ops() is something done once early on in boot, not at
> every driver probe, so I don't see how it can help??

Note that there's some annoying inconsistency across architectures, and 
with the {acpi,of}_dma_configure() code in general. I guess Christoph 
might be thinking of the case where iommu_setup_dma_ops() *does* end up 
being called off the back of the bus->dma_configure() hook a few lines 
below the context above.

iommu_setup_dma_ops() itself is indeed not the appropriate place for 
this (the fact that it can be called as late as driver probe is subtly 
broken and still on my list to fix...) but
bus->dma_configure() definitely is. Only a handful of buses care about 
IOMMUs, and possibly even fewer of them support VFIO, so I'm in full 
agreement with Greg and Christoph that this absolutely warrants being 
scoped per-bus. I mean, we literally already have infrastructure to 
prevent drivers binding if the IOMMU/DMA configuration is broken or not 
ready yet; why would we want a totally different mechanism to prevent 
driver binding when the only difference is that that configuration *is* 
ready and working to the point that someone's already claimed it for 
other purposes?

Robin.
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-15 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-15  2:05 [PATCH 00/11] Fix BUG_ON in vfio_iommu_group_notifier() Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 01/11] iommu: Add device dma ownership set/release interfaces Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 13:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-16  1:57     ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16  1:57       ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16 13:46       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-16 13:46         ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-17  5:22         ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-17  5:22           ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-17 13:35           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-17 13:35             ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-18  1:12             ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-18  1:12               ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-18 14:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-18 14:10                 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-18  2:39         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-11-18  2:39           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-11-18 13:33           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-18 13:33             ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-19  5:44             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-11-19  5:44               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-11-19 11:14               ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-19 11:14                 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-19 15:06                 ` Jörg Rödel
2021-11-19 15:06                   ` Jörg Rödel
2021-11-19 15:43                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-19 15:43                     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-20 11:16                   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-20 11:16                     ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-19 12:56               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-19 12:56                 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15 20:38   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-15 20:38     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-16  1:52     ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16  1:52       ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 02/11] driver core: Set DMA ownership during driver bind/unbind Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  6:59   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-15  6:59     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-15 13:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:20       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:38     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15 13:38       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 13:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 13:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15 15:37       ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2021-11-15 15:37         ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 15:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 15:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15 18:15           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 18:15             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 18:35           ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 18:35             ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 19:39             ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15 19:39               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 03/11] PCI: pci_stub: Suppress kernel DMA ownership auto-claiming Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 13:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:31     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15 13:31       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 15:14       ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 15:14         ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 16:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 16:17           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15 17:54           ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 17:54             ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 18:19             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 18:19               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 18:44               ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 18:44                 ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 19:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15 19:22               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 20:58               ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 20:58                 ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 21:19                 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15 21:19                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 20:48   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-15 20:48     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-15 22:17   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-15 22:17     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-16  6:05     ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16  6:05       ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 04/11] PCI: portdrv: " Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 20:44   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-15 20:44     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-16  7:24     ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16  7:24       ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16 20:22       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-16 20:22         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-16 20:48         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-16 20:48           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 05/11] iommu: Add security context management for assigned devices Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 13:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-16  7:25     ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16  7:25       ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 06/11] iommu: Expose group variants of dma ownership interfaces Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 13:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-16  9:42     ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16  9:42       ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 07/11] vfio: Use DMA_OWNER_USER to declaim passthrough devices Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 08/11] vfio: Remove use of vfio_group_viable() Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 09/11] vfio: Delete the unbound_list Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 10/11] vfio: Remove iommu group notifier Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05 ` [PATCH 11/11] iommu: Remove iommu group changes notifier Lu Baolu
2021-11-15  2:05   ` Lu Baolu

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