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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Grant Grundler <grundler@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	wgong@qti.qualcomm.com, wgong@codeaurora.org,
	ath10k@lists.infradead.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] ath10k: Set sk_pacing_shift to 6 for 11AC WiFi chips
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:18:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871sa7ylmi.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEJEGsm_BKM6g2x0+a7_5dBy5jkROs+jEjHmrcneGrMdDK41g@mail.gmail.com>

Grant Grundler <grundler@google.com> writes:

>> And, well, Grant's data is from a single test in a noisy
>> environment where the time series graph shows that throughput is all over
>> the place for the duration of the test; so it's hard to draw solid
>> conclusions from (for instance, for the 5-stream test, the average
>> throughput for 6 is 331 and 379 Mbps for the two repetitions, and for 7
>> it's 326 and 371 Mbps) . Unfortunately I don't have the same hardware
>> used in this test, so I can't go verify it myself; so the only thing I
>> can do is grumble about it here... :)
>
> It's a fair complaint and I agree with it. My counter argument is the
> opposite is true too: most ideal benchmarks don't measure what most
> users see. While the data wgong provided are way more noisy than I
> like, my overall "confidence" in the "conclusion" I offered is still
> positive.

Right. I guess I would just prefer a slightly more comprehensive
evaluation to base a 4x increase in buffer size on...

-Toke

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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Grant Grundler <grundler@google.com>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	wgong@qti.qualcomm.com, ath10k@lists.infradead.org,
	wgong@codeaurora.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] ath10k: Set sk_pacing_shift to 6 for 11AC WiFi chips
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:18:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871sa7ylmi.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEJEGsm_BKM6g2x0+a7_5dBy5jkROs+jEjHmrcneGrMdDK41g@mail.gmail.com>

Grant Grundler <grundler@google.com> writes:

>> And, well, Grant's data is from a single test in a noisy
>> environment where the time series graph shows that throughput is all over
>> the place for the duration of the test; so it's hard to draw solid
>> conclusions from (for instance, for the 5-stream test, the average
>> throughput for 6 is 331 and 379 Mbps for the two repetitions, and for 7
>> it's 326 and 371 Mbps) . Unfortunately I don't have the same hardware
>> used in this test, so I can't go verify it myself; so the only thing I
>> can do is grumble about it here... :)
>
> It's a fair complaint and I agree with it. My counter argument is the
> opposite is true too: most ideal benchmarks don't measure what most
> users see. While the data wgong provided are way more noisy than I
> like, my overall "confidence" in the "conclusion" I offered is still
> positive.

Right. I guess I would just prefer a slightly more comprehensive
evaluation to base a 4x increase in buffer size on...

-Toke

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-06 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-08 10:40 [PATCH v2 0/2] Change sk_pacing_shift in ieee80211_hw for best tx throughput Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40 ` Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mac80211: Change sk_pacing_shift saved to ieee80211_hw Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40   ` Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ath10k: Set sk_pacing_shift to 6 for 11AC WiFi chips Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:40   ` Wen Gong
2018-08-08 10:43   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-08 10:43     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-10  8:05     ` Wen Gong
2018-08-10  8:05       ` Wen Gong
2018-08-10 13:17       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-10 13:17         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-13  5:37         ` Wen Gong
2018-08-13  5:37           ` Wen Gong
2018-08-13 11:18           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-13 11:18             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-14  5:55             ` Wen Gong
2018-08-14  5:55               ` Wen Gong
2018-08-17 11:32               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-17 11:32                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-30 23:25                 ` Peter Oh
2018-08-30 23:25                   ` Peter Oh
2018-08-31 15:36                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-31 15:36                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-30 23:32           ` Grant Grundler
2018-09-03  9:38             ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-03  9:38               ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-03 11:11               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-03 11:11                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-03 11:47                 ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-03 11:47                   ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-03 13:35                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-03 13:35                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-03 14:57                     ` Dave Taht
2018-09-03 14:57                       ` Dave Taht
2018-09-03 15:35                       ` Dave Taht
2018-09-03 15:35                         ` Dave Taht
2018-09-04 23:43                     ` Grant Grundler
2018-09-04 23:43                       ` Grant Grundler
2018-09-05  7:23                       ` Wen Gong
2018-09-05  7:23                         ` Wen Gong
2018-09-06 10:18                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2018-09-06 10:18                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-20 19:15                         ` Grant Grundler
2019-02-20 19:15                           ` Grant Grundler
2019-02-21  4:39                           ` Kalle Valo
2019-02-21  4:39                             ` Kalle Valo
2019-02-21 15:42                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 15:42                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:10                             ` Kalle Valo
2019-02-21 16:10                               ` Kalle Valo
2019-02-21 16:22                               ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 16:22                                 ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 16:37                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:37                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:57                                   ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 16:57                                     ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 17:15                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 17:15                                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 17:29                                       ` [PATCH] mac80211: Change default tx_sk_pacing_shift to 7 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 17:29                                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 12:29                                         ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-22 13:06                                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 13:06                                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 13:07                                             ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-22 13:07                                               ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-22 13:40                                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 13:40                                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-22 19:10                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-22 19:10                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2019-02-23 11:49                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-23 11:49                                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 17:29                                       ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ath10k: Set sk_pacing_shift to 6 for 11AC WiFi chips Ben Greear
2019-02-21 17:29                                         ` Ben Greear
2019-02-21 22:50                                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 22:50                                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:28                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-21 16:28                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-04-23  6:31   ` Kalle Valo
2020-04-23  6:31   ` Kalle Valo
2018-08-08 19:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Change sk_pacing_shift in ieee80211_hw for best tx throughput Peter Oh
2018-08-08 19:00   ` Peter Oh
2018-08-09  9:32   ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-09  9:32     ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-10 13:20     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-10 13:20       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-10 19:28       ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-10 19:28         ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-10 19:52         ` Ben Greear
2018-08-10 19:52           ` Ben Greear
2018-08-11 19:21           ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-11 19:21             ` Arend van Spriel
2018-08-20 12:46             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-20 12:46               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-20 15:14               ` Ben Greear
2018-08-20 15:14                 ` Ben Greear
2018-09-03 18:36 [PATCH v2 2/2] ath10k: Set sk_pacing_shift to 6 for 11AC WiFi chips Kan Yan

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