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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Non-flat command line option argument syntax
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:24:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871sui3ept.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97fd5714-e51b-5786-9576-47614e7a4351@redhat.com> (Eric Blake's message of "Mon, 27 Feb 2017 13:47:59 -0600")

Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> writes:

> On 02/27/2017 07:36 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>
>> 
>>>                  Maybe just 'foo.array[]' (without any =) for an empty
>>> array or something like that.
>> 
>> Yes, that should do.  Likewise foo.object{} for empty object.
>> 
>> {} doesn't even need quoting.  [] may.
>
> [contents] needs quoting, but [] does NOT need shell quoting (no shells
> treat it as a glob), for the same reason that 'if [ -e "$file" ];' needs
> no quoting around the [ or ] (the shell only requires quotes for [ if
> the rest of the shell word can look like a valid glob, but globs require
> intermediate content before the ]).

Bash shell options failglob and nullglob can still mess it up.

>>> Before we introduce anything like this, do we actually need it?
>> 
>> I don't know whether anything needs optional, present and empty.  But
>> even if the answer is "no" today, it need not remain "no".
>> 
>> Anyone running into a case of "yes", will have to fall back to the JSON
>> form of -blockdev.  Strengthens my belief that providing JSON there is a
>> good idea.
>> 
>> The insufficient generality of dotted keys bugs me a bit.  Not sure
>> whether it justifies more syntax now.  But we should document it.
>
> I agree that documenting it as a shortcoming of dotted form and pointing
> to JSON form is okay.  I also like that we are leaving the door open for
> future expansion, if needed, and think that is better than inventing the
> syntax now, especially for what we are trying to get into 2.9.

Okay, I'll work on improving the documentation.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-28  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-02 19:42 [Qemu-devel] Non-flat command line option argument syntax Markus Armbruster
2017-02-02 20:06 ` Eric Blake
2017-02-02 20:23 ` Eric Blake
2017-02-03  7:57   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-02 20:27 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-02-03  7:50   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-03 16:57     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-02-04  9:44       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 10:20         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-02-03 20:02     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Max Reitz
2017-02-04  9:45       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-04 10:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-04 11:52           ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-04 12:43             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-03 10:03 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-03 11:13   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-03 12:37 ` Peter Krempa
2017-02-03 13:53   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-03 17:25 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-02-04  9:51   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-05 20:46     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Max Reitz
2017-02-03 20:28 ` Max Reitz
2017-02-04  9:56   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-04 12:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fam Zheng
2017-02-04 12:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-04 13:02     ` Fam Zheng
2017-02-04 13:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-04 14:10     ` Fam Zheng
2017-02-06  6:24       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 11:08   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-06  6:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 13:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-02-06 15:36   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 16:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-06 17:24       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 17:50         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-06 18:56           ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 17:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-06 18:12       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 21:52         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-07  7:02           ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-07  9:26     ` Kevin Wolf
2017-02-24 16:04 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-24 16:39   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-24 17:17     ` Eric Blake
2017-02-24 19:15       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-27 10:27 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-27 10:59   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-02-27 13:36     ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-27 19:47       ` Eric Blake
2017-02-28  8:24         ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2017-02-27 19:43   ` Eric Blake
2017-02-28  8:41     ` Markus Armbruster
2017-03-01  9:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-03-21  8:40 ` Markus Armbruster

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