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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Non-flat command line option argument syntax
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 07:24:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a89zx2e5.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170204141056.GB15362@lemon> (Fam Zheng's message of "Sat, 4 Feb 2017 22:10:56 +0800")

Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com> writes:

> On Sat, 02/04 14:35, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Thu, 02/02 20:42, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> >> === Comparison ===
>> >> 
>> >> In my opinion, dotted keys are weird and ugly, but at least they don't
>> >> add to the quoting mess.  Structured values look better, except when
>> >> they do add to the quoting mess.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm having a hard time deciding which one I like less :)
>> >> 
>> >> Opinions?  Other ideas?
>> >
>> > Here's my poor attempt:
>> >
>> > The dotted syntax, as the simpler of two, can cover everyday use very well.  If
>> > we introduce an "@reference" extension to it which can help the expresiveness,
>> > we can have a hybrid solution. It's not the cleanest interface and syntax, but
>> > escaping, nesting and quoting can all be divide-and-conqured in their optimal way.
>> > What I'm imagining is something like:
>> >
>> >     -json "id=children0,text=[
>> >                 { 'driver': 'null-co://' },
>> >                 { 'driver': 'null-co://' },
>> >                 { 'driver': 'null-co://' }
>> >             ]" \
>> >     -dot \
>> >       id=quorum0,driver=quorum,read-pattern=fifo,vote-threshold=1,children=@children0 \
>> >     -drive if=virtio,id=primary-disk0,driver=qcow2,file=@quorum0
>> >
>> > IOW "-json" and "-dot" define options that is intended to be referenced from
>> > other dotted keys (quorum0 uses children0, and in turn primary-disk0 uses
>> > quorum0).
>> >
>> > Note: "-dot" here could be replaced with a -blockdev in this specific case but
>> > I'm demostrating it just in case it is useful generically.
>> >
>> > Fam
>> 
>> KEY=@REF for references creates the same issue as KEY=[VALUE,...] for
>> arrays: you need to know the type of KEY to decide whether @REF is a
>> reference or a string, unless we outlaw strings starting with '@'.
>> 
>> Not a show-stopper, but it does preclude a design where a simple parser
>> feeds into a type-aware visitor, which is how the JSON -> QObject ->
>> QAPI pipeline works.
>> 
>> If you get creative in the VALUE part, you complicate the parser and/or
>> need to add quoting.
>> 
>> If you get creative in the KEY part, you need to restrict valid names.
>
> How about KEY@=REF?

Requires outlawing KEYs ending with '@'.  QAPI outlaws such names
already.  QOM doesn't, but I figure no such names exist so far.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-06  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-02 19:42 [Qemu-devel] Non-flat command line option argument syntax Markus Armbruster
2017-02-02 20:06 ` Eric Blake
2017-02-02 20:23 ` Eric Blake
2017-02-03  7:57   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-02 20:27 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-02-03  7:50   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-03 16:57     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-02-04  9:44       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 10:20         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-02-03 20:02     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Max Reitz
2017-02-04  9:45       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-04 10:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-04 11:52           ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-04 12:43             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-03 10:03 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-03 11:13   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-03 12:37 ` Peter Krempa
2017-02-03 13:53   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-03 17:25 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2017-02-04  9:51   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-05 20:46     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Max Reitz
2017-02-03 20:28 ` Max Reitz
2017-02-04  9:56   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-04 12:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fam Zheng
2017-02-04 12:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-04 13:02     ` Fam Zheng
2017-02-04 13:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-04 14:10     ` Fam Zheng
2017-02-06  6:24       ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2017-02-06 11:08   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-06  6:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 13:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-02-06 15:36   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 16:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-06 17:24       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 17:50         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-06 18:56           ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 17:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-06 18:12       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-06 21:52         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-07  7:02           ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-07  9:26     ` Kevin Wolf
2017-02-24 16:04 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-24 16:39   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-24 17:17     ` Eric Blake
2017-02-24 19:15       ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-27 10:27 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-27 10:59   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-02-27 13:36     ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-27 19:47       ` Eric Blake
2017-02-28  8:24         ` Markus Armbruster
2017-02-27 19:43   ` Eric Blake
2017-02-28  8:41     ` Markus Armbruster
2017-03-01  9:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-03-21  8:40 ` Markus Armbruster

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