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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	KONRAD Frederic <fred.konrad@greensocs.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: new config layout: using memory BAR
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 10:02:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871u8fp9jd.fsf__22503.9201709025$1370531181$gmane$org@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130606063432.GQ4725@redhat.com>

Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 07:41:17PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On 06/05/2013 03:08 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Definitely an option.  However, we want to be able to boot from native
>> >>> devices, too, so having an I/O BAR (which would not be used by the OS
>> >>> driver) should still at the very least be an option.
>> >> 
>> >> What makes it so difficult to work with an MMIO bar for PCI-e?
>> >> 
>> >> With legacy PCI, tracking allocation of MMIO vs. PIO is pretty straight
>> >> forward.  Is there something special about PCI-e here?
>> >> 
>> >
>> > It's not tracking allocation.  It is that accessing memory above 1 MiB
>> > is incredibly painful in the BIOS environment, which basically means
>> > MMIO is inaccessible.
>> 
>> Oh, you mean in real mode.
>> 
>> SeaBIOS runs the virtio code in 32-bit mode with a flat memory layout.
>> There are loads of ASSERT32FLAT()s in the code to make sure of this.
>> 
> Well, not exactly. Initialization is done in 32bit, but disk
> reads/writes are done in 16bit mode since it should work from int13
> interrupt handler. The only way I know to access MMIO bars from 16 bit
> is to use SMM which we do not have in KVM.

Ah, if it's just the dataplane operations then there's another solution.

We can introduce a virtqueue flag that asks the backend to poll for new
requests.  Then SeaBIOS can add the request to the queue and not worry
about kicking or reading the ISR.

SeaBIOS is polling for completion anyway.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-06 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-28 16:03 [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: new config layout: using memory BAR Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 17:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 17:43     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29  2:02       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-29  2:02         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-29  4:33       ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29  4:33       ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29  7:27         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29  8:05           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 10:07           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-28 18:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 19:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29  4:31   ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29  4:31     ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29  8:24     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29  8:52       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29  9:00       ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 10:08         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 10:53           ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 12:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 12:28               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 12:37                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 12:52     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 12:52       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 13:24       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 13:35         ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 13:35         ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 13:41         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 14:02           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:18           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 14:18           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-30  7:43           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:16         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 14:16         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 14:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:32             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 14:52               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 16:12               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 18:16               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-30  3:58       ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-30  3:58         ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-30  5:55         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30  7:55         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03  0:17           ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-30 13:53         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-30 13:53           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-30 14:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03  0:26             ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-03 10:11               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-04  5:31                 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-04  6:42                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05  7:19                     ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-05 10:22                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 12:59                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 14:09                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 15:08                         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 15:19                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 15:46                             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 15:46                             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 16:20                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 18:57                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 19:43                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 19:52                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 20:45                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:15                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-05 21:15                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 20:42                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:14                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 21:53                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:53                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 22:19                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-05 22:53                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 23:27                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-05 19:54                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-06  3:42                                   ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-06 14:59                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-07  1:58                                       ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-07  8:25                                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-05 21:10                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-05 21:17                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 21:50                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:55                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-05 22:08                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 23:07                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06  0:41                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-06  6:34                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-06 13:53                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06 15:02                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-07 11:30                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11  7:10                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11  7:53                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11  8:02                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11  8:03                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11  8:19                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11  8:22                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11  8:30                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11  8:32                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11  8:04                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-06 15:02                                               ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-06-06 15:06                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-06 15:10                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-06 15:19                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06 15:22                                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-07-08  4:25                                                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-06  8:02                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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