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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
Cc: Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, timmurray@google.com,
	joelaf@google.com, surenb@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Implement /proc/pid/kill
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 23:47:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736sm3eoh.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181030050012.u43lcvydy6nom3ul@yavin> (Aleksa Sarai's message of "Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:00:12 +1100")

Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com> writes:

> On 2018-10-29, Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com> wrote:
>> Add a simple proc-based kill interface. To use /proc/pid/kill, just
>> write the signal number in base-10 ASCII to the kill file of the
>> process to be killed: for example, 'echo 9 > /proc/$$/kill'.
>> 
>> Semantically, /proc/pid/kill works like kill(2), except that the
>> process ID comes from the proc filesystem context instead of from an
>> explicit system call parameter. This way, it's possible to avoid races
>> between inspecting some aspect of a process and that process's PID
>> being reused for some other process.
>
> (Aside from any UX concerns other folks might have.)
>
> I think it would be a good idea to (at least temporarily) restrict this
> so that only processes that are in the same PID namespace as the /proc
> being resolved through may use this interface. Otherwise you might have
> cases where partial container breakouts can start sending signals to
> PIDs they wouldn't normally be able to address.

No.  That is the container managers job.  If you have the wrong proc
mounted in your container or otherwise allow access to it that is the
fault of the application that set up the container.

The pid namespace limits visibility.  If something becomes visible and
you have permissions over it, it is perfectly reasonable for you to
execute those permissions.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-31  4:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-29 22:10 [RFC PATCH] Implement /proc/pid/kill Daniel Colascione
2018-10-30  3:21 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-30  8:50   ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-30 10:39     ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-30 10:40       ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-30 10:48         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-30 11:04           ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-30 11:12             ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-30 11:19               ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-31  5:00                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-30 17:01     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-30  5:00 ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-10-30  9:05   ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-30 20:45     ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-10-30 21:42       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-30 22:23         ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-10-30 22:33           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-30 22:49             ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-10-31  0:42               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-31  1:59                 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-30 23:10             ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-30 23:23               ` Christian Brauner
2018-10-30 23:55                 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-31  2:56                 ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-10-31  4:24                   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-01 20:40                     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-02  9:46                       ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-02 14:34                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-10-31  0:57               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-31  1:56                 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-31  4:47   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2018-10-31  4:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-31 12:44   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-31 13:27     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-31 15:10       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-31 15:16         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-31 15:49           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-11-01 11:53       ` David Laight
2018-11-01 15:50         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-31 14:37 ` [PATCH v2] " Daniel Colascione
2018-10-31 15:05   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-31 17:33     ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-10-31 21:47       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-10-31 15:59 ` [PATCH v3] " Daniel Colascione
2018-10-31 17:54   ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-31 18:00     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-31 18:17       ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-31 19:33         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-10-31 20:06           ` Tycho Andersen
2018-11-01 11:33           ` David Laight
2018-11-12  1:19             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-31 16:22 ` [RFC PATCH] " Jann Horn
2018-11-01  4:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-12 23:13 ` Pavel Machek

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