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From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v3 14/15] printk: extend console_lock for proper kthread support
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 23:31:11 +0206	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877d7gu7yg.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YmLGfuSV5u7xp5BZ@alley>

On 2022-04-22, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> Another problem is that the ordering is not stable. The console
> might come and go.

The console list is protected by @console_sem, so it wouldn't be an
actual problem. The real issue is that lockdep would not like it. A new
lockdep class would need to be setup for each register_console().

>> Anyway, I will first look into the nested locking solution. That
>> seems more promising to me and it would go a long way to simplify the
>> locking hierarchy.
>
> Please, do not spend too much time on this. The solution must be
> simple in principle. If it gets complicated than it will likely
> be worse than the current code.

Sure. The goal is to simplify. The only complexity will be doing in a
way that allow lockdep to understand it.

> Alternative solution would be to reduce the number of variables
> affected by the race. I mean:
>
>    + replace CON_THB_BLOCKED flag with con->blocked to avoid
>      the needed of READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE().
>
>    + check con->blocked right after taking con->lock in
>      printk_kthread_func() so that all the other accesses are
>      safe.

Honestly, I would prefer this to what v4 is doing. The only reason
CON_THD_BLOCKED is a flag is to save space. But we are only talking
about a few bytes being saved. There aren't that many consoles.

It would be a very simple change. Literally just replacing the 3 lines
that set/clear CON_THD_BLOCKED and replacing/reordering the 2 lines that
check the flag. Then all the READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE to @flags could be
removed.

John

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-22 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-19 23:46 [PATCH printk v3 00/15] printk/for-next John Ogness
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 01/15] printk: rename cpulock functions John Ogness
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 02/15] printk: cpu sync always disable interrupts John Ogness
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 03/15] printk: add missing memory barrier to wake_up_klogd() John Ogness
2022-04-20 12:34   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 04/15] printk: wake up all waiters John Ogness
2022-04-20 12:36   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 05/15] printk: wake waiters for safe and NMI contexts John Ogness
2022-04-20 13:55   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 06/15] printk: get caller_id/timestamp after migration disable John Ogness
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 07/15] printk: call boot_delay_msec() in printk_delay() John Ogness
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 08/15] printk: add con_printk() macro for console details John Ogness
2022-04-20 14:01   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 09/15] printk: refactor and rework printing logic John Ogness
2022-04-20 14:55   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 10/15] printk: move buffer definitions into console_emit_next_record() caller John Ogness
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 11/15] printk: add pr_flush() John Ogness
2022-04-20 15:10   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 12/15] printk: add functions to prefer direct printing John Ogness
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 13/15] printk: add kthread console printers John Ogness
2022-04-20 17:53   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-20 20:02     ` John Ogness
2022-04-21 14:25       ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 14/15] printk: extend console_lock for proper kthread support John Ogness
2022-04-20  2:13   ` kernel test robot
2022-04-20 13:32     ` John Ogness
2022-04-20 13:32       ` John Ogness
2022-04-20  4:04   ` kernel test robot
2022-04-21 12:41   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-21 14:30     ` John Ogness
2022-04-22 13:03       ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-22 14:14         ` John Ogness
2022-04-22 15:15           ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-22 21:25             ` John Ogness [this message]
2022-04-25 15:18               ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-25 19:10                 ` John Ogness
2022-04-19 23:46 ` [PATCH printk v3 15/15] printk: remove @console_locked John Ogness
2022-04-21 12:46   ` Petr Mladek
2022-04-21 14:40 ` [PATCH printk v3 00/15] printk/for-next Petr Mladek
2022-04-21 15:02   ` John Ogness

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