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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Cleber Rosa <crosa@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/22] qapi/parser: Don't try to handle file errors
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 07:48:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bl9zq7re.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1df92443-b8e0-a6e4-e0af-fb562a3579f1@redhat.com> (John Snow's message of "Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:58:39 -0400")

John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:

> On 4/27/21 9:47 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>>> On 4/23/21 11:46 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>> John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> The short-ish version of what motivates this patch is:
>>>>>
>>>>> - The parser initializer does not possess adequate context to write a
>>>>>     good error message -- It tries to determine the caller's semantic
>>>>>     context.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure I get what you're trying to say here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I mean: this __init__ method does not *know* who is calling it or why.
>>> Of course, *we* do, because the code base is finite and nobody else but
>>> us is calling into it.
>>>
>>> I mean to point out that the initializer has to do extra work (Just a
>>> little) to determine what the calling context is and raise an error
>>> accordingly.
>>>
>>> Example: If we have a parent info context, we raise an error in the
>>> context of the caller. If we don't, we have to create a new presumed
>>> context (using the weird None SourceInfo object).
>> 
>> I guess you mean
>> 
>>              raise QAPISemError(incl_info or QAPISourceInfo(None, None, None),
>> 
>> I can't see other instances of messing with context.
>> 
>
> Yes, and the string construction that follows, too. It's all about 
> trying to understand who our caller is and raising an error appropriate 
> for them on their behalf.

I guess you can view it that way.  I never did.  My thinking was

    @fname either comes from a schema file (@incl_info is not None) or
    somewhere else.  If schema file, make the exception's __str__()
    start with "SCHEMA-FILE:LINE: ", because that's how compilers report
    errors in source files.  Else, make it start with just "PROGNAME: ",
    because that's how compilers report errors unrelated to source
    files.

This assumes "incl_info is None implies unrelated to source file".  I
think that's fair.  I don't think it rises to the level of
"understanding who our caller is".

>>> So I just mean to say:
>>>
>>> "Let the caller, who unambiguously always has the exactly correct
>>> context worry about what the error message ought to be."

[...]

>>>> Before the patch, only IOError from open() and .read() get converted to
>>>> QAPISemError, and therefore caught by main().
>>>>
>>>> The patch widen this to anywhere in QAPISchemaParser.__init__().  Hmm.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Changed in version 3.3: EnvironmentError, IOError, WindowsError,
>>> socket.error, select.error and mmap.error have been merged into OSError,
>>> and the constructor may return a subclass."
>>>
>>>   >>> OSError == IOError
>>> True
>>>
>>> (No, I didn't know this before I wrote it. I just intentionally wanted
>>> to catch everything that open() might return, which I had simply assumed
>>> was not fully captured by IOError. Better to leave it as OSError now to
>>> avoid misleading anyone into thinking it's more narrow than it really is.)
>> 
>> Good to know.
>> 
>> However, I was talking about the code covered by try ... except OSError
>> (or IOError, or whatever).  Before the patch, it's just open() and
>> .read().  Afterwards it's all of .__init__().
>> 
>
> Apologies, I misread.
>
>> Could anything else in .__init__() possibly raise OSError?  Probably
>> not, but it's not trivially obvious.  Which makes me go "hmm."
>> 
>> "Hmm" isn't "no", it's just "hmm".
>> 
>
> Yeah, it is rather broad. That is one of the perils of doing *so much* 
> at init() time, in my opinion.

It's not ideal, but then having to write something like

    parser = QAPISchemaParser(fname).parse()

or

    parser = QAPISchemaParser().parse(fname)

instead of just

    parser = QAPISchemaParser(fname)

would be less than ideal, too.

> We don't make any other syscalls in the parser though, so it should be 
> fine. The docstring patch later documents the errors we expect to see 
> here, so it becomes a visible part of the interface.

[...]



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-28  5:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-22  3:06 [PATCH 00/22] qapi: static typing conversion, pt5a John Snow
2021-04-22  3:06 ` [PATCH 01/22] qapi/parser: Don't try to handle file errors John Snow
2021-04-23 15:46   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-23 19:20     ` John Snow
2021-04-27 13:47       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-27 17:58         ` John Snow
2021-04-28  5:48           ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 02/22] qapi/source: [RFC] add "with_column" contextmanager John Snow
2021-04-27  9:33   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 03/22] qapi/source: Remove line number from QAPISourceInfo initializer John Snow
2021-04-24  6:38   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-26 17:39     ` John Snow
2021-04-26 23:14     ` John Snow
2021-04-27  6:07       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 04/22] qapi/parser: factor parsing routine into method John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 05/22] qapi/parser: Assert lexer value is a string John Snow
2021-04-24  8:33   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-26 17:43     ` John Snow
2021-04-27 12:30       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-27 13:58         ` John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 06/22] qapi/parser: assert get_expr returns object in outer loop John Snow
2021-04-25  7:23   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-27 15:03     ` John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 07/22] qapi/parser: assert object keys are strings John Snow
2021-04-25  7:27   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-26 17:46     ` John Snow
2021-04-27  6:13       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-27 14:15         ` John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 08/22] qapi/parser: Use @staticmethod where appropriate John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 09/22] qapi: add match_nofail helper John Snow
2021-04-25  7:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-26 17:48     ` John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 10/22] qapi/parser: Fix typing of token membership tests John Snow
2021-04-25  7:59   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-26 17:51     ` John Snow
2021-04-27  7:00       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-05-04  1:01         ` John Snow
2021-05-05  6:29           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 11/22] qapi/parser: Rework _check_pragma_list_of_str as a TypeGuard John Snow
2021-04-25 12:32   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-26 23:48     ` John Snow
2021-04-27  7:15       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-05-05 19:09         ` John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 12/22] qapi/parser: add type hint annotations John Snow
2021-04-25 12:34   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-26 18:00     ` John Snow
2021-04-27  8:21       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-26 23:55     ` John Snow
2021-04-27  8:43       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-05-06  1:49         ` John Snow
2021-05-06  1:27   ` John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 13/22] qapi/parser: [RFC] overload the return type of get_expr John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 14/22] qapi/parser: Remove superfluous list constructor John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 15/22] qapi/parser: allow 'ch' variable name John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 16/22] qapi/parser: add docstrings John Snow
2021-04-25 13:27   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-26 18:26     ` John Snow
2021-04-27  9:03       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-05-06  2:08         ` John Snow
2021-05-07  1:34     ` John Snow
2021-05-07  8:25       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 17/22] CHECKPOINT John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 18/22] qapi: [WIP] Rip QAPIDoc out of parser.py John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 19/22] qapi: [WIP] Add type ignores for qapidoc.py John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 20/22] qapi: [WIP] Import QAPIDoc from qapidoc Signed-off-by: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 21/22] qapi: [WIP] Add QAPIDocError John Snow
2021-04-22  3:07 ` [PATCH 22/22] qapi: [WIP] Enable linters on parser.py John Snow

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