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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, bilbao@vt.edu,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	leon@kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	luzmaximilian@gmail.com, mchehab+huawei@kernel.org,
	schnelle@linux.ibm.com, Barry Song <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI/MSI: Fix the confusing IRQ sysfs ABI for MSI-X
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:45:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf4pq2mf.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210824193438.GA3486820@bjorn-Precision-5520>

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 20:34:38 +0100,
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 10:46:59AM +1200, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:28 PM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:03:08 +0100,
> > > Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > +static ssize_t irq_show(struct device *dev,
> > +                                        struct device_attribute *attr,
> > +                                        char *buf)
> > +{
> > +       struct pci_dev *pdev = to_pci_dev(dev);
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_PCI_MSI
> > +       struct msi_desc *desc = first_pci_msi_entry(pdev);
> > +
> > +       /* for MSI, return the 1st IRQ in IRQ vector */
> > +       if (desc && !desc->msi_attrib.is_msix)
> > +               return sysfs_emit(buf, "%u\n", desc->irq);
> > +#endif
> > +
> > +       return sysfs_emit(buf, "%u\n", pdev->irq);
> > +}
> > +static DEVICE_ATTR_RO(irq);
> 
> Makes sense to me.  And with Marc's patch maybe we could get rid of
> default_irq, which also seems nice.
> 
> > > > if we don't want to change the behaviour of any existing ABI, it
> > > > seems the only thing we can do here to document it well in ABI
> > > > doc. i actually doubt anyone has really understood what the irq
> > > > entry is really showing.
> > >
> > > Given that we can't prove that it is actually the case, I believe this
> > > is the only option.
> > 
> > we have to document the ABI like below though it seems quite annoying.
> > 
> > 1. for devices which don't support MSI and MSI-X, show legacy INTx
> > 2. for devices which support MSI
> >     a. if CONFIG_PCI_MSI is not enabled,  show legacy INTx
> >     b. if CONFIG_PCI_MSI is enabled and devices are using MSI at this
> > moment, show 1st IRQ in the vector
> >     c. if CONFIG_PCI_MSI is enabled, but we shutdown its MSI before
> > the users call sysfs entry,
> >         so at this moment, devices are not using MSI,  show legacy INTx
> > 3. for devices which support MSI-X, no matter if it is using MSI-X,
> >     show legacy INTx
> > 4. In Addition, INTx might be broken due to incomplete firmware or
> > hardware design for MSI and MSI-X cases
> > 
> > To be honest, it sounds like a disaster :-) but if this is what we
> > have to do, I'd like to try it in v3.
> 
> It doesn't seem necessary to me to get into the gory details of
> CONFIG_PCI_MSI -- if that's not enabled, drivers can't use MSI anyway.
> 
> I don't understand 3.  If a device supports both MSI and MSI-X and a
> driver enables MSI, msi_capability_init() writes dev->irq, so it looks
> like "irq" should contain the first MSI vector.
> 
> I don't understand 4, either.  Is the possibility of broken hardware
> or firmware something we need to document?  
> 
> What about something like this?
> 
>   If a driver has enabled MSI (not MSI-X), "irq" contains the IRQ of
>   the first MSI vector.  Otherwise "irq" contains the IRQ of the
>   legacy INTx interrupt.
> 

I think that pretty much nails it. CONFIG_MSI is not something that
userspace can (nor should) discover anyway.

For (4), you may want to add that

  "irq" being set to 0 indicates that the device isn't capable of
  generating legacy INTx interrupts.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-25  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-20 22:37 [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI/MSI: Clarify the IRQ sysfs ABI for PCI devices Barry Song
2021-08-20 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI/MSI: Fix the confusing IRQ sysfs ABI for MSI-X Barry Song
2021-08-20 23:33   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-21 10:42     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-08-21 22:14       ` Barry Song
2021-08-21 22:41         ` Barry Song
2021-08-23 10:33           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-08-24 19:25           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-23 10:30         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-08-23 11:03           ` Barry Song
2021-08-23 11:28             ` Marc Zyngier
2021-08-23 22:46               ` Barry Song
2021-08-24 19:34                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-08-25  9:45                   ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-08-24 20:51       ` Barry Song
2021-08-24 21:29         ` Barry Song
2021-08-25 10:24           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-08-24 22:51             ` Barry Song
2021-08-20 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Documentation: ABI: sysfs-bus-pci: Add description for IRQ entry Barry Song

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