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From: Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Peter Chen <hzpeterchen@gmail.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Leo Li <pku.leo@gmail.com>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
	"linux-usb\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@ti.com>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stuart Yoder <stuart.yoder@nxp.com>,
	Scott Wood <oss@buserror.net>,
	David Fisher <david.fisher1@synopsys.com>,
	"Thang Q. Nguyen" <tqnguyen@apm.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel\@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: dwc3: host: inherit dma configuration from parent dev
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:18:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lgz4ko7h.fsf@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160907093525.GK1041@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>

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Hi,

Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk> writes:
> On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 05:29:01PM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 10:52:46AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:44:28 PM CEST Peter Chen wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > The pre-condition of DT function at USB HCD core works is the host
>> > > controller device has of_node, since it is the root node for USB tree
>> > > described at DT. If the host controller device is not at DT, it needs
>> > > to try to get its of_node, the chipidea driver gets it through its
>> > > parent node [1]
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > > [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/8/8/119
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > Ah, this is what I was referring to in the other mail.
>> > 
>> > However, the way you set the of_node might be dangerous too:
>> > We should generally not have two platform_device structures with
>> > the same of_node pointer, most importantly it may cause the
>> > child device to be bound to the same driver as the parent
>> > device since the probing is done by compatible string.
>> > 
>> > As you tested it successfully, it must work at the moment on your
>> > machine, but it could easily break depending on deferred probing
>> > or module load order.
>> > 
>> 
>> Currently, I work around above problems by setting core device of_node
>> as NULL at both probe error path and platform driver .remove routine.
>> 
>> I admit it is not a good way, but if we only have of_node at device's
>> life periods after probe, it seems ok currently. It is hard to create
>> of_node dynamically when create device, and keep some contents
>> of parent's of_node, and some are not.
>
> How about turning dwc3 into a library which can be used by a range of
> platform devices?  Wouldn't that solve all the current problems, and
> completely avoid the need to copy resources from one platform device
> to another?

This will break all existing DTs out there. Also, there are other
benefits from keeping current design, these have been discussed before
but here's a short summary:

. PM callbacks are kept simple
. We avoid abuse of internal dwc3 functions
. It's a lot less work to "port" dwc3 to "your SoC"
. We prevent another MUSB (drivers/usb/musb/)

And few others. Sure, they are rather subjective benefits, but it has
worked well so far. Also, breaking DT ABI is kind of a big deal.

-- 
balbi

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From: balbi@kernel.org (Felipe Balbi)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] usb: dwc3: host: inherit dma configuration from parent dev
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:18:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lgz4ko7h.fsf@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160907093525.GK1041@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>


Hi,

Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk> writes:
> On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 05:29:01PM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 10:52:46AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:44:28 PM CEST Peter Chen wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > The pre-condition of DT function at USB HCD core works is the host
>> > > controller device has of_node, since it is the root node for USB tree
>> > > described at DT. If the host controller device is not at DT, it needs
>> > > to try to get its of_node, the chipidea driver gets it through its
>> > > parent node [1]
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > > [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/8/8/119
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > Ah, this is what I was referring to in the other mail.
>> > 
>> > However, the way you set the of_node might be dangerous too:
>> > We should generally not have two platform_device structures with
>> > the same of_node pointer, most importantly it may cause the
>> > child device to be bound to the same driver as the parent
>> > device since the probing is done by compatible string.
>> > 
>> > As you tested it successfully, it must work at the moment on your
>> > machine, but it could easily break depending on deferred probing
>> > or module load order.
>> > 
>> 
>> Currently, I work around above problems by setting core device of_node
>> as NULL at both probe error path and platform driver .remove routine.
>> 
>> I admit it is not a good way, but if we only have of_node at device's
>> life periods after probe, it seems ok currently. It is hard to create
>> of_node dynamically when create device, and keep some contents
>> of parent's of_node, and some are not.
>
> How about turning dwc3 into a library which can be used by a range of
> platform devices?  Wouldn't that solve all the current problems, and
> completely avoid the need to copy resources from one platform device
> to another?

This will break all existing DTs out there. Also, there are other
benefits from keeping current design, these have been discussed before
but here's a short summary:

. PM callbacks are kept simple
. We avoid abuse of internal dwc3 functions
. It's a lot less work to "port" dwc3 to "your SoC"
. We prevent another MUSB (drivers/usb/musb/)

And few others. Sure, they are rather subjective benefits, but it has
worked well so far. Also, breaking DT ABI is kind of a big deal.

-- 
balbi
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2016-04-25 19:21 [PATCH] usb: dwc3: host: inherit dma configuration from parent dev Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-25 19:21 ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-26  6:17 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-26  6:17   ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-26  8:14   ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-26  8:14     ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-27  5:41     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27  5:41       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 11:55       ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-27 11:55         ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-27 13:59       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-04-27 13:59         ` Catalin Marinas
2016-04-27 14:11         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 14:11           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 15:50           ` Catalin Marinas
2016-04-27 15:50             ` Catalin Marinas
2016-04-27 16:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 16:04               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 16:53               ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 16:53                 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 17:42                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 17:42                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 17:59                   ` Alan Stern
2016-04-27 17:59                     ` Alan Stern
2016-04-27 18:08                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 18:08                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 20:05                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 20:05                         ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 21:05                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-27 21:05                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-28  6:37                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-28  6:37                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-28 14:16                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-28 14:16                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-04-28 14:23                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-28 14:23                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-28 14:27                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-28 14:27                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-01 22:14                                   ` Leo Li
2016-09-01 22:14                                     ` Leo Li
2016-09-02 10:43                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 10:43                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 10:47                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-09-02 10:47                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-09-02 11:08                                         ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 11:08                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 14:11                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 14:11                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 14:21                                           ` Alan Stern
2016-09-02 14:21                                             ` Alan Stern
2016-09-02 15:51                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 15:51                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  7:17                                               ` Roger Quadros
2016-09-07  7:17                                                 ` Roger Quadros
2016-09-07  8:29                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  8:29                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07 13:04                                                   ` Roger Quadros
2016-09-07 13:04                                                     ` Roger Quadros
2016-09-07 14:38                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07 14:38                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 16:23                                           ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-09-02 16:23                                             ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-09-02 10:53                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 10:53                                         ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 11:55                                         ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-02 11:55                                           ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-02 12:56                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 12:56                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-02 13:10                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 13:10                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-02 22:16                                       ` Leo Li
2016-09-02 22:16                                         ` Leo Li
2016-09-05 15:39                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-05 15:39                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-06  6:35                                           ` Peter Chen
2016-09-06  6:35                                             ` Peter Chen
2016-09-06  6:40                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-06  6:40                                               ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-06 10:46                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-06 10:46                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-06 10:50                                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-06 10:50                                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-06 13:27                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-06 13:27                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  6:51                                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-07  6:51                                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-07  7:44                                                     ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  7:44                                                       ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  8:52                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  8:52                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  9:29                                                         ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  9:29                                                           ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  9:35                                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-09-07  9:35                                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-09-07 10:18                                                             ` Felipe Balbi [this message]
2016-09-07 10:18                                                               ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-06 10:38                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-06 10:38                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  6:33                                               ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  6:33                                                 ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  8:48                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  8:48                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07  9:55                                                   ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07  9:55                                                     ` Peter Chen
2016-09-07 10:33                                                     ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-07 10:33                                                       ` Robin Murphy
2016-09-07 10:47                                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-07 10:47                                                         ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-14 16:31                                                         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2016-09-14 16:31                                                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2016-09-14 21:50                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-14 21:50                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07 10:24                                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-07 10:24                                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-07 15:24                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07 15:24                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07 16:08                                                       ` Alan Stern
2016-09-07 16:08                                                         ` Alan Stern
2016-09-07 19:45                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-07 19:45                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  1:15                                                       ` Peter Chen
2016-09-08  1:15                                                         ` Peter Chen
2016-09-08  8:02                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  8:02                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  8:03                                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08  8:03                                                         ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08  8:26                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  8:26                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  8:29                                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08  8:29                                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08  8:45                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  8:45                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08  9:43                                                               ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08  9:43                                                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 10:17                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 10:17                                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 11:00                                                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 11:00                                                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 11:11                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 11:11                                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 11:20                                                                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 11:20                                                                         ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 11:39                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 11:39                                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 11:52                                                                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 11:52                                                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08 12:46                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 12:46                                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 12:02                                                                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-09-08 12:02                                                                       ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-09-08 12:14                                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 12:14                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 12:28                                                                   ` Peter Chen
2016-09-08 12:28                                                                     ` Peter Chen
2016-09-08 12:52                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-08 12:52                                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-09  1:37                                                                       ` Peter Chen
2016-09-09  1:37                                                                         ` Peter Chen
2016-09-08 12:59                                                                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-09-08 12:59                                                                       ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-09-09  1:52                                                                       ` Peter Chen
2016-09-09  1:52                                                                         ` Peter Chen
2016-09-21 11:06                                                       ` Sriram Dash
2016-09-21 11:06                                                         ` Sriram Dash
2016-09-21 11:31                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-21 11:31                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-21 11:43                                                           ` Sriram Dash
2016-09-21 11:43                                                             ` Sriram Dash
2016-09-21 12:48                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-21 12:48                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-22  5:02                                                               ` Sriram Dash
2016-09-22  5:02                                                                 ` Sriram Dash
2016-10-07 22:46                                                                 ` Leo Li
2016-10-07 22:46                                                                   ` Leo Li
2016-09-21 17:14                                                             ` [PATCH] usb: xhci: Fix the patch inherit dma configuration from kbuild test robot
2016-09-21 17:14                                                               ` kbuild test robot
2016-04-27 20:57                   ` [PATCH] usb: dwc3: host: inherit dma configuration from parent dev Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 20:57                     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-04-27 14:14         ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-04-27 14:14           ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-05-05 17:07 ` Brian Norris
2016-05-05 17:07   ` Brian Norris

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