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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Yuval Shaia" <yuval.shaia.ml@gmail.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Andrea Bolognani" <abologna@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Michael Roth" <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Berger" <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: cleanups with long-term benefits (was Re: [PATCH] schemas: Add vim modeline)
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 09:36:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8np5ysp.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6e5df5fc-94f8-ee8e-0c14-f56135de25e4@redhat.com> (John Snow's message of "Tue, 4 Aug 2020 14:24:22 -0400")

John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:

> On 8/4/20 4:03 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> The pain of tweaking the parser is likely dwarved several times over by
>> the pain of the flag day.
>
> You mention this often; I wonder if I misunderstand the critique,
> because the pain of a "flag day" for a new file format seems
> negligible to me.
>
> I don't think we edit these .json files very often. Generally, we add
> a new command when we need one. The edits are usually one or two lines
> plus docstrings.
>
> If anyone has patches in-flight, I genuinely doubt it will take more
> than a few minutes to rewrite for the new file format.
>
> No?

You describe the the flag day's one-time pain.

There's also the longer term pain of having to work around git-blame
unable to see beyond the flag day.

I'm not claiming the pain is prohibitive (if I thought it was, I
would've tried to strange this thread in its crib), I am claiming it'll
be much more painful (read: expensive) than a parser tweak.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-05  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-29 18:50 [PATCH] schemas: Add vim modeline Andrea Bolognani
2020-07-30  9:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-30  9:37   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-30 11:51     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-30 13:24       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-31  6:45         ` John Snow
2020-07-31  9:21           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-31  9:32             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-31 12:55         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-31 15:07           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-31 15:26             ` John Snow
2020-07-31 15:44               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-03  7:28                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-03  8:41                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-03 11:24                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-03 11:36                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-03 12:16                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-03 12:23                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-03 12:33                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-03 12:43                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-03 15:48                         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-03 21:02                         ` Nir Soffer
2020-07-31 16:35               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-31 16:41                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-31 17:20                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-31 17:47                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-03  9:44                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-31 17:53                 ` John Snow
2020-07-31 18:01                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-03  7:45                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-31 16:28             ` cleanups with long-term benefits (was Re: [PATCH] schemas: Add vim modeline) Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-31 17:05               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-31 17:16                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-07-31 17:27                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-31 17:42                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-03  9:27                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-03  8:18               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-03  8:42                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-03 11:28                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-03 12:01                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-03 16:03                       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-03 16:36                         ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-04  7:28                           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-03 17:19                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-04  8:03                           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-04 18:24                             ` John Snow
2020-08-05  7:36                               ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2020-08-05  8:25                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-05  8:39                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-05  8:49                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-05  9:05                                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-05  9:11                                         ` cleanups with long-term benefits Cornelia Huck
2020-08-05 10:08                                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-05 10:24                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-05 16:23                                             ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-05 16:46                                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-08-06  5:44                                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-05  8:47                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-08-05  8:56                                   ` cleanups with long-term benefits (was Re: [PATCH] schemas: Add vim modeline) Markus Armbruster
2020-08-05 10:15                                     ` Alex Bennée
2020-08-05 16:04                                 ` John Snow
2020-08-06  4:58                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-05  8:42                         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-03 18:10                       ` John Snow
2020-08-03 18:16                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-03 18:19                           ` John Snow
2020-08-03 19:54                             ` Nir Soffer
2020-08-03 20:48                               ` John Snow
2020-08-03  9:50                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-08-03 11:32                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-31 16:39             ` [PATCH] schemas: Add vim modeline Kevin Wolf
2020-07-30 15:11       ` Eric Blake
2020-07-30 20:53         ` John Snow
2020-07-30 20:56         ` John Snow
2020-07-31  7:15         ` Kevin Wolf
2020-07-31  8:48           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-31  9:01           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-31 11:26             ` Kevin Wolf
2020-08-03  8:51               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-31 23:12     ` Nir Soffer
2020-08-03 12:16       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-04  7:28         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-08-04  8:29     ` Alex Bennée
2020-09-07 13:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-30 13:14 ` Markus Armbruster

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