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* [PATCH] libv4l: fixup lfs mismatch in preload libraries
@ 2018-07-11 13:22 Ezequiel Garcia
  2018-07-11 14:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ezequiel Garcia @ 2018-07-11 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-media; +Cc: Hans Verkuil, Peter Korsgaard, Ezequiel Garcia

From: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>

Ensure that the lfs variants are not transparently used instead of the !lfs
ones so both can be wrapped, independently of any custom CFLAGS/CPPFLAGS.

Without this patch, the following assembler errors appear
during cross-compiling with Buildroot:

/tmp/ccc3gdJg.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:67: Error: symbol `open64' is already defined
/tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:130: Error: symbol `mmap64' is already defined

Signed-off-by: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
Signed-off-by: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
---
 lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c  | 3 +++
 lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c | 3 +++
 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)

diff --git a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
index cb79629ff88f..e5c9e56261e2 100644
--- a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
+++ b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
@@ -19,6 +19,9 @@
 # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Suite 500, Boston, MA  02110-1335  USA
  */
 
+/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
+#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
+#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
 #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
 
 #include <config.h>
diff --git a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
index 7c9a04c086ed..13ca4cfb1b08 100644
--- a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
+++ b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
@@ -23,6 +23,9 @@
 /* prevent GCC 4.7 inlining error */
 #undef _FORTIFY_SOURCE
 
+/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
+#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
+#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
 #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
 
 #ifdef ANDROID
-- 
2.18.0.rc2

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* Re: [PATCH] libv4l: fixup lfs mismatch in preload libraries
  2018-07-11 13:22 [PATCH] libv4l: fixup lfs mismatch in preload libraries Ezequiel Garcia
@ 2018-07-11 14:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  2018-07-11 19:38   ` Baruch Siach
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab @ 2018-07-11 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ezequiel Garcia; +Cc: linux-media, Hans Verkuil, Peter Korsgaard

Em Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:22:51 -0300
Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com> escreveu:

> From: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
> 
> Ensure that the lfs variants are not transparently used instead of the !lfs
> ones so both can be wrapped, independently of any custom CFLAGS/CPPFLAGS.
> 
> Without this patch, the following assembler errors appear
> during cross-compiling with Buildroot:
> 
> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s: Assembler messages:
> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:67: Error: symbol `open64' is already defined
> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:130: Error: symbol `mmap64' is already defined
> 
> Signed-off-by: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
> Signed-off-by: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
> ---
>  lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c  | 3 +++
>  lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c | 3 +++
>  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
> index cb79629ff88f..e5c9e56261e2 100644
> --- a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
> +++ b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
> @@ -19,6 +19,9 @@
>  # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Suite 500, Boston, MA  02110-1335  USA
>   */
>  
> +/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
> +#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> +#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS

Hmm... shouldn't this be autodetected? I didn't check anything,
but I would be expecting that different distros (and BSD) may be
doing different things here, specially if they use different gcc
versions or even different libc implementations.


>  #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
>  
>  #include <config.h>
> diff --git a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
> index 7c9a04c086ed..13ca4cfb1b08 100644
> --- a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
> +++ b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
> @@ -23,6 +23,9 @@
>  /* prevent GCC 4.7 inlining error */
>  #undef _FORTIFY_SOURCE
>  
> +/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
> +#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> +#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
>  #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
>  
>  #ifdef ANDROID



Thanks,
Mauro

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* Re: [PATCH] libv4l: fixup lfs mismatch in preload libraries
  2018-07-11 14:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
@ 2018-07-11 19:38   ` Baruch Siach
  2018-07-11 22:57     ` Ezequiel Garcia
  2018-07-12  8:54     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Baruch Siach @ 2018-07-11 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  Cc: Ezequiel Garcia, linux-media, Hans Verkuil, Peter Korsgaard,
	Peter Korsgaard

Hi Mauro,

Added Peter's updated address to Cc.

Mauro Carvalho Chehab writes:
> Em Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:22:51 -0300
> Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com> escreveu:
>
>> From: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
>> 
>> Ensure that the lfs variants are not transparently used instead of the !lfs
>> ones so both can be wrapped, independently of any custom CFLAGS/CPPFLAGS.
>> 
>> Without this patch, the following assembler errors appear
>> during cross-compiling with Buildroot:
>> 
>> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s: Assembler messages:
>> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:67: Error: symbol `open64' is already defined
>> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:130: Error: symbol `mmap64' is already defined
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
>> Signed-off-by: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
>> ---
>>  lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c  | 3 +++
>>  lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c | 3 +++
>>  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)
>> 
>> diff --git a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
>> index cb79629ff88f..e5c9e56261e2 100644
>> --- a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
>> +++ b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
>> @@ -19,6 +19,9 @@
>>  # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Suite 500, Boston, MA  02110-1335  USA
>>   */
>>  
>> +/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
>> +#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
>> +#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
>
> Hmm... shouldn't this be autodetected? I didn't check anything,
> but I would be expecting that different distros (and BSD) may be
> doing different things here, specially if they use different gcc
> versions or even different libc implementations.

See Peter's explanation here:

  http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2017-December/210067.html

baruch

>>  #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
>>  
>>  #include <config.h>
>> diff --git a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
>> index 7c9a04c086ed..13ca4cfb1b08 100644
>> --- a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
>> +++ b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
>> @@ -23,6 +23,9 @@
>>  /* prevent GCC 4.7 inlining error */
>>  #undef _FORTIFY_SOURCE
>>  
>> +/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
>> +#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
>> +#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
>>  #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
>>  
>>  #ifdef ANDROID


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* Re: [PATCH] libv4l: fixup lfs mismatch in preload libraries
  2018-07-11 19:38   ` Baruch Siach
@ 2018-07-11 22:57     ` Ezequiel Garcia
  2018-07-12  8:54     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ezequiel Garcia @ 2018-07-11 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Baruch Siach, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  Cc: linux-media, Hans Verkuil, Peter Korsgaard, Peter Korsgaard

On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 22:38 +0300, Baruch Siach wrote:
> Hi Mauro,
> 
> Added Peter's updated address to Cc.
> 
> Mauro Carvalho Chehab writes:
> > Em Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:22:51 -0300
> > Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com> escreveu:
> > 
> > > From: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
> > > 
> > > Ensure that the lfs variants are not transparently used instead
> > > of the !lfs
> > > ones so both can be wrapped, independently of any custom
> > > CFLAGS/CPPFLAGS.
> > > 
> > > Without this patch, the following assembler errors appear
> > > during cross-compiling with Buildroot:
> > > 
> > > /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s: Assembler messages:
> > > /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:67: Error: symbol `open64' is already defined
> > > /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:130: Error: symbol `mmap64' is already defined
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
> > > Signed-off-by: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
> > > ---
> > >  lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c  | 3 +++
> > >  lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c | 3 +++
> > >  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
> > > index cb79629ff88f..e5c9e56261e2 100644
> > > --- a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
> > > +++ b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
> > > @@ -19,6 +19,9 @@
> > >  # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Suite 500, Boston,
> > > MA  02110-1335  USA
> > >   */
> > >  
> > > +/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used
> > > */
> > > +#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> > > +#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
> > 
> > Hmm... shouldn't this be autodetected? I didn't check anything,
> > but I would be expecting that different distros (and BSD) may be
> > doing different things here, specially if they use different gcc
> > versions or even different libc implementations.
> 
> See Peter's explanation here:
> 
>   http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2017-December/210067.h
> tml
> 
> 

Nice, thanks for Ccing the real Peter and for adding the link to the
discussion.

Regards,
Eze

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* Re: [PATCH] libv4l: fixup lfs mismatch in preload libraries
  2018-07-11 19:38   ` Baruch Siach
  2018-07-11 22:57     ` Ezequiel Garcia
@ 2018-07-12  8:54     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  2018-07-12 19:13       ` Baruch Siach
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab @ 2018-07-12  8:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Baruch Siach
  Cc: Ezequiel Garcia, linux-media, Hans Verkuil, Peter Korsgaard,
	Peter Korsgaard

Em Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:38:56 +0300
Baruch Siach <baruch@tkos.co.il> escreveu:

> Hi Mauro,
> 
> Added Peter's updated address to Cc.
> 
> Mauro Carvalho Chehab writes:
> > Em Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:22:51 -0300
> > Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com> escreveu:
> >  
> >> From: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
> >> 
> >> Ensure that the lfs variants are not transparently used instead of the !lfs
> >> ones so both can be wrapped, independently of any custom CFLAGS/CPPFLAGS.
> >> 
> >> Without this patch, the following assembler errors appear
> >> during cross-compiling with Buildroot:
> >> 
> >> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s: Assembler messages:
> >> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:67: Error: symbol `open64' is already defined
> >> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:130: Error: symbol `mmap64' is already defined
> >> 
> >> Signed-off-by: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
> >> Signed-off-by: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
> >> ---
> >>  lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c  | 3 +++
> >>  lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c | 3 +++
> >>  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)
> >> 
> >> diff --git a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
> >> index cb79629ff88f..e5c9e56261e2 100644
> >> --- a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
> >> +++ b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
> >> @@ -19,6 +19,9 @@
> >>  # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Suite 500, Boston, MA  02110-1335  USA
> >>   */
> >>  
> >> +/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
> >> +#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> >> +#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS  
> >
> > Hmm... shouldn't this be autodetected? I didn't check anything,
> > but I would be expecting that different distros (and BSD) may be
> > doing different things here, specially if they use different gcc
> > versions or even different libc implementations.  
> 
> See Peter's explanation here:
> 
>   http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2017-December/210067.html

The link Peter provided seems to be specific to glibc. The main
point I want to bring is: would this change affect users with
other setups? There are some users that compile it against FreeBSD
and Android. Some compile using dietlibc or uclibc. Also, people
build it against 32-bits and 64-bits on x86, arm and other archs.

So, the question is: are you sure that the above change is also valid for
*all* other environments? If not, I would be expecting it to be
attached to some automake test, to be sure that it will be applied
only to the affected setups.


> 
> baruch
> 
> >>  #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
> >>  
> >>  #include <config.h>
> >> diff --git a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
> >> index 7c9a04c086ed..13ca4cfb1b08 100644
> >> --- a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
> >> +++ b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
> >> @@ -23,6 +23,9 @@
> >>  /* prevent GCC 4.7 inlining error */
> >>  #undef _FORTIFY_SOURCE
> >>  
> >> +/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
> >> +#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> >> +#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
> >>  #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
> >>  
> >>  #ifdef ANDROID  
> 
> 



Thanks,
Mauro

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* Re: [PATCH] libv4l: fixup lfs mismatch in preload libraries
  2018-07-12  8:54     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
@ 2018-07-12 19:13       ` Baruch Siach
  2018-07-12 20:13         ` Peter Korsgaard
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Baruch Siach @ 2018-07-12 19:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  Cc: Ezequiel Garcia, linux-media, Hans Verkuil, Peter Korsgaard


Mauro Carvalho Chehab writes:

> Em Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:38:56 +0300
> Baruch Siach <baruch@tkos.co.il> escreveu:
>> Added Peter's updated address to Cc.
>>
>> Mauro Carvalho Chehab writes:
>> > Em Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:22:51 -0300
>> > Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com> escreveu:
>> >
>> >> From: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
>> >>
>> >> Ensure that the lfs variants are not transparently used instead of the !lfs
>> >> ones so both can be wrapped, independently of any custom CFLAGS/CPPFLAGS.
>> >>
>> >> Without this patch, the following assembler errors appear
>> >> during cross-compiling with Buildroot:
>> >>
>> >> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s: Assembler messages:
>> >> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:67: Error: symbol `open64' is already defined
>> >> /tmp/ccc3gdJg.s:130: Error: symbol `mmap64' is already defined
>> >>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
>> >> ---
>> >>  lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c  | 3 +++
>> >>  lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c | 3 +++
>> >>  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)
>> >>
>> >> diff --git a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
>> >> index cb79629ff88f..e5c9e56261e2 100644
>> >> --- a/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
>> >> +++ b/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.c
>> >> @@ -19,6 +19,9 @@
>> >>  # Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Suite 500, Boston, MA  02110-1335  USA
>> >>   */
>> >>
>> >> +/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
>> >> +#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
>> >> +#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
>> >
>> > Hmm... shouldn't this be autodetected? I didn't check anything,
>> > but I would be expecting that different distros (and BSD) may be
>> > doing different things here, specially if they use different gcc
>> > versions or even different libc implementations.
>>
>> See Peter's explanation here:
>>
>>   http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2017-December/210067.html
>
> The link Peter provided seems to be specific to glibc. The main
> point I want to bring is: would this change affect users with
> other setups? There are some users that compile it against FreeBSD
> and Android. Some compile using dietlibc or uclibc. Also, people
> build it against 32-bits and 64-bits on x86, arm and other archs.
>
> So, the question is: are you sure that the above change is also valid for
> *all* other environments? If not, I would be expecting it to be
> attached to some automake test, to be sure that it will be applied
> only to the affected setups.

Buildroot has been carrying this patch since 2012[1] with no one
complaining. Buildroot supports glibc, uClibc, and musl libc on a wide
range of architectures (x86, ARM, MIPS, PowerPC, Sparc, xtensa, arc, and
more) both 32-bit and 64-bit.

I don't know about FreeBSD.

baruch

[1] https://git.buildroot.org/buildroot/commit/?id=d059b1cc61dcafde47723c45b834409026a39dbe

>> >>  #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
>> >>
>> >>  #include <config.h>
>> >> diff --git a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
>> >> index 7c9a04c086ed..13ca4cfb1b08 100644
>> >> --- a/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
>> >> +++ b/lib/libv4l2/v4l2convert.c
>> >> @@ -23,6 +23,9 @@
>> >>  /* prevent GCC 4.7 inlining error */
>> >>  #undef _FORTIFY_SOURCE
>> >>
>> >> +/* ensure we see *64 variants and they aren't transparently used */
>> >> +#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
>> >> +#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
>> >>  #define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1
>> >>
>> >>  #ifdef ANDROID

--
     http://baruch.siach.name/blog/                  ~. .~   Tk Open Systems
=}------------------------------------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------{=
   - baruch@tkos.co.il - tel: +972.52.368.4656, http://www.tkos.co.il -

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* Re: [PATCH] libv4l: fixup lfs mismatch in preload libraries
  2018-07-12 19:13       ` Baruch Siach
@ 2018-07-12 20:13         ` Peter Korsgaard
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Peter Korsgaard @ 2018-07-12 20:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Baruch Siach
  Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab, Ezequiel Garcia, linux-media, Hans Verkuil

>>>>> "Baruch" == Baruch Siach <baruch@tkos.co.il> writes:

Hi,

 >> The link Peter provided seems to be specific to glibc. The main
 >> point I want to bring is: would this change affect users with
 >> other setups? There are some users that compile it against FreeBSD
 >> and Android. Some compile using dietlibc or uclibc. Also, people
 >> build it against 32-bits and 64-bits on x86, arm and other archs.
 >> 
 >> So, the question is: are you sure that the above change is also valid for
 >> *all* other environments? If not, I would be expecting it to be
 >> attached to some automake test, to be sure that it will be applied
 >> only to the affected setups.

 > Buildroot has been carrying this patch since 2012[1] with no one
 > complaining. Buildroot supports glibc, uClibc, and musl libc on a wide
 > range of architectures (x86, ARM, MIPS, PowerPC, Sparc, xtensa, arc, and
 > more) both 32-bit and 64-bit.

Indeed. I believe these comes from the single UNIX specification:

http://www.unix.org/version2/whatsnew/lfs20mar.html#3.3

And these defines are what the AC_SYS_LARGEFILE autoconf macro uses:

https://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.65/html_node/System-Services.html

-- 
Bye, Peter Korsgaard

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